[Remi]

Boudon has speed, strenght and good offensive skills. He'll be as a regular if he's traded...and I hope that he will be traded because you guy's dont seem to appreciate him anymore. It's funny how a player who was a fan favorite two years ago became the flop that you say he is.

Good luck Luc, hope to see you play in the NHL sometime this year!

[Venusius]

Geez. Bourdon is only 20. How long did it take Bieksa to crack the line-up? Give him a break guys. I still see potential in him and he still has good value as a prospect. I expect him to do well in Manitoba this season. A definite call-up if the injury bug strikes our d-corps again.

[timw33]

9th overall Brian Lee didn't make the Sens.


BUST

BUST

BUST

BUST

SINCE HE WAS A HIGHER PICK THAN BURDON HE IS A BIGGER BUST.

SO IS POULIOT WHAT A BUST

And also Kris Letang didn't make the Penguins.

BUST BUST BUST

This post has been edited by timw33: 01 October 2007 - 06:59 PM

[JimmEh]

timw33, on Oct 1 2007, 04:36 PM, said:

9th overall Brian Lee didn't make the Sens.
BUST

BUST

BUST

BUST

SINCE HE WAS A HIGHER PICK THAN BURDON HE IS A BIGGER BUST.

SO IS POULIOT WHAT A BUST

And also Kris Letang didn't make the Penguins.

BUST BUST BUST

OH MY GOD WHAT A CRAPPY DRAFT. KOPSH!TAR WAS THE ONLY THING WORTH ANYTHING THERE

This post has been edited by JimmEh: 01 October 2007 - 10:11 PM

[NHL'er]

Venusius, on Oct 1 2007, 01:51 PM, said:

Geez. Bourdon is only 20. How long did it take Bieksa to crack the line-up? Give him a break guys. I still see potential in him and he still has good value as a prospect. I expect him to do well in Manitoba this season. A definite call-up if the injury bug strikes our d-corps again.

Good point... I always think Bieksa is a young prospect, then I remember hes 26.

[Octane]

whoa, my idiot meter is going crazy here....must be the thread title. I think I will leave the thread.

[timw33]

Oh and Jack Skille (7th) didn't make his team.

[dhabums]

Jester@wraiths.org, on Sep 21 2007, 09:53 AM, said:

No, we should have drafted Kopitar because he was a very talented center with size, something we needed in the system far more than a defenseman. I'd have been happy if we'd taken Kopitar and he was developing slowly, instead of Bourdon developing slowly. Center needed more depth than defense needed in our system.

Not in 05 when we had we had TONS of offence. Jovo was on the way out after the season was over, Mitchell wasn't a Canuck, Kracker wasn't, Edler wasn't exactly on the radar.

Just look at our playoff "run" in 05/06 and tell me who great our d was. Depth at D is a female dog.

[timw33]

And typically, its easier to replace a Dman from within the system rather than by an inflated UFA market demand for quality dmen, due to a lack of.

[Jester@wraiths.ca]

dhabums, on Oct 1 2007, 11:45 PM, said:

Not in 05 when we had we had TONS of offence. Jovo was on the way out after the season was over, Mitchell wasn't a Canuck, Kracker wasn't, Edler wasn't exactly on the radar.

Just look at our playoff "run" in 05/06 and tell me who great our d was. Depth at D is a female dog.

No, the BIG club had tons of offense, the farm team had very few offensive prospects at all. The draft isn't about someone to shove into the lineup the same year, and the Kings didn't expect Kopitar to jump into the lineup like he did either. The draft is about stocking for the future so when what you have is going out, you've got new talent to come in. As it was, we had nobody on the farm with potential to become a top 6 forward. Yet on D, we had Bieksa who had just turned in a tremendous season, Koltsov who was still in the realm of possibilities (and still rated very highly)...

[Locke Lamora]

When the Sedin's were 20 years old, alot of these same Bourdon bashers probably wanted to trade the "sisters"... they were proclaimed busts by so many so-called hockey experts.

Bourdon will be a very good player, and I predict that he will emerge from his year with the Moose a better player than Edler was after his first year in the AHL.

[timw33]

And now Smid(9th in 2004) was cut from Edmonton of all places.

Barker(3rd in 2004) Cut from Chicago.

Valabik(10th in 2004) Cut from Atlanta.

A.J Thelen (12th in 2004) Released from Minnesota.

This post has been edited by timw33: 02 October 2007 - 03:16 PM

[Mike27]

Just a question? Is it okay to just think about Bourdon (and any other prospect in the Canucks fold) as a potential future Canuck player?

Do we have to take sides and either be " a Bourdon Basher" or "a Bourdon Fanboy"?

The point is, Bourdon is a prospect who is going to learn the game in Manitoba. He may become a star, he may become a journeyman, he may become a bust. We won't know for sure for a few years.

Aside from the kid's actual ability, part of the problem on CDC is that many posters have built him up beyond all recognition. That is not Bourdon's fault, or his problem. Many posters have gone the opposite way, and downgraded him mercilessly.

What is clear to me is that he is a prospect. He is not a sure thing, nor is he a bust. He may yet turn out to be one of these things, or maybe just a good NHLer.

[Lemon]

i dont concider him a flop but i am dissapointed he hasnt made an impact with the big club yet. he was a 10th overall pick. when you concider what that spot is worth he should be with the canucks in at least a top 4 spot right now IMO. generally speaking most top ten picks dont need more then one season after draft to make the big club let alone prove they were worth the high draft pick.

[The_Sand]

Nvm, sounds to gay.

This post has been edited by The Sand: 03 October 2007 - 08:54 PM

[Lemon]

a top ten pick should be a pretty sure thing if he was 2nd round i would agree with you but not a top ten

[Lemon]

Mike27, on Oct 2 2007, 03:22 PM, said:

Just a question? Is it okay to just think about Bourdon (and any other prospect in the Canucks fold) as a potential future Canuck player?

Do we have to take sides and either be " a Bourdon Basher" or "a Bourdon Fanboy"?

The point is, Bourdon is a prospect who is going to learn the game in Manitoba. He may become a star, he may become a journeyman, he may become a bust. We won't know for sure for a few years.

Aside from the kid's actual ability, part of the problem on CDC is that many posters have built him up beyond all recognition. That is not Bourdon's fault, or his problem. Many posters have gone the opposite way, and downgraded him mercilessly.

What is clear to me is that he is a prospect. He is not a sure thing, nor is he a bust. He may yet turn out to be one of these things, or maybe just a good NHLer.

above post was in responce to this

[Mike27]

Lemon, on Oct 3 2007, 10:53 PM, said:

i dont concider him a flop but i am dissapointed he hasnt made an impact with the big club yet. he was a 10th overall pick. when you concider what that spot is worth he should be with the canucks in at least a top 4 spot right now IMO. generally speaking most top ten picks dont need more then one season after draft to make the big club let alone prove they were worth the high draft pick.

This is very optimistic. How many top ten picks from Bourdon's draft year are top four dmen or top six forwards for their NHL teams?
I count 2.

Sidney Crosby #1
Jack Johnson #3

Three more are on NHL teams as back up goalies, or bottom six forwards

Bobby Ryan #2
Gilbert Brule #6
Carey Price #5

And, this is two full years after they were drafted, not one.

This post has been edited by Mike27: 03 October 2007 - 10:01 PM

[timw33]

Mike27, on Oct 3 2007, 09:59 PM, said:

This is very optimistic. How many top ten picks from Bourdon's draft year are top four dmen or top six forwards for their NHL teams?
I count 2.

Sidney Crosby #1
Jack Johnson #3

Three more are on NHL teams as back up goalies, or bottom six forwards

Bobby Ryan #2
Gilbert Brule #6
Carey Price #5

And, this is two full years after they were drafted, not one.

And from three full years ago, the 3 Dmen in drafted in the top 10 of 2004 are not in the NHL this year.

3 Cam Barker
9 Smid
10 Valabik

They are all in the AHL for seasoning and should be good players.

This post has been edited by timw33: 04 October 2007 - 01:42 AM

[Mitchell #8]

I just hate the fact that it looks like he has regressed his development from his 1st training camp. That is the only disheartening part about Luc Bourdon that leaves a horrible taste in peoples mouth. If gives the perception that he is on his way to becoming a bust because he set the expectations so high from his 1st training camp.

When will his ankle fully recover? Some people are saying that it still hasn't fully recovered but where is their proof? Is it something that you notice from watching his mobility?