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2008 NLL Season Cancelled Forget the Ravens return for another year.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 01:03 AM

The Ravens won't get their next chance to bring a team back for another year since there's now no league. Another pro sports league surrendering to CBA issues.
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The 2008 National Lacrosse League season has been cancelled after the league and Professional Lacrosse Players' Association failed to reach agreement on a new contract, a source close to the talks told The Canadian Press on Tuesday.

The source, who requested anonymity, forwarded The Canadian Press a copy of an email sent by commissioner Jim Jennings to players at 12:01 a.m. ET Tuesday, moments after the league's deadline for a new deal had passed.

"This will confirm that we have not reached accord on a new Collective Bargaining Agreement," the e-mail read. "As such, the 2008 NLL season is cancelled."

League spokesman Doug Fritts would not comment on the report when reached on Monday.

"The league will have no further comment tonight and we expect to make a statement later on (Tuesday)," Fritts said.



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Deputy league commissioner George Daniel posted a statement on the league's website Monday, expressing the league's disappointment at the players' association turning down a deal he called "agreeable to the vast majority of players."

Association president Peter Schmitz countered that, deadline or no deadline, the players would be unwilling to accept a deal they consider unsatisfactory. Players remain underpaid, says Schmitz, a former player.

The previous pact, a three-year deal, expired last July 31. The NLL submitted three new proposals to the players' association since last December and the association presented a counter-proposal three weeks ago. Daniel said club owners voted months ago to cancel the season if no new deal was in place by midnight Oct. 15.

The NLL offered a minimal pay increase across the board and wanted a five-year deal. The PLPA is reported to have sought elimination of pay ceilings and a one-year agreement.

The maximum for a veteran was US$21,294 in the last agreement. Franchise players - up to two men on each team - got $25,552. The fixed rookie salary was $6,880, the second-year minimum was $9,282 and the veteran minimum was $10,221. The average worked out to about $14,500.

The majority of NLL players have full-time jobs outside their teams' 16-game schedules that run into April. Games are played mostly on weekends and many players commute to games. The season was scheduled to begin Dec. 27.

In the last two rounds of negotiations, there was a 12-day player strike in 2003 and a cancellation deadline passed in 2004 before an agreement was reached the following day.



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Posted 16 October 2007 - 01:07 AM

Wow those guys make jack-all. My kids not playing lacrosse.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 01:31 AM

wow.

I guess thats one less thing I will have to ignore in the sports section now.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:05 AM

I'm holding back the tears.... really I am...
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:15 AM

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 01:49 PM

My first thought was that this would be deadly for a fringe sport like lacrosse but on second thought I'm wondering if it will really make any difference in regards to attendance. The lacrosse fans will still be lacrosse fans and they still won't have the crossover sports fan.

I hope the players can get more reasonable salaries in such a way that the league can sustain itself.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 01:54 PM

lol nll

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:00 PM

not surprised nll is weak and boring

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:16 PM

View PostVintageNaslund, on Oct 16 2007, 02:00 PM, said:

not surprised nll is weak and boring

I find that to be peculiar, since it's got more violence than hockey it seems. The excitement level isn't as high, but I think it's much higher than football, baseball and basketball. But it's proof that more goals doesn't mean more excitement, it's all in how the game is played.

But about it not surprising you because it's weak and boring, that's an irrelevant comment since the problem seems to be with the more than pathetic payscale.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:47 PM

i remember when the ravens were on snet i gave used to flip it there when i was bored i just couldnt watch it. they scored alot but it was still boring

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:48 PM

View PostGerg, on Oct 16 2007, 02:16 PM, said:

I find that to be peculiar, since it's got more violence than hockey it seems. The excitement level isn't as high, but I think it's much higher than football, baseball and basketball. But it's proof that more goals doesn't mean more excitement, it's all in how the game is played.

But about it not surprising you because it's weak and boring, that's an irrelevant comment since the problem seems to be with the more than pathetic payscale.


But isn't that the direction the ole Gary wants the NHL to go in - higher scoring games? I don't see how this league, if you can call the NLL a league, can expect to grow or at least maintain current levels of fans or franchises. Sad
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 07:53 PM

View PostVintageNaslund, on Oct 16 2007, 02:47 PM, said:

i remember when the ravens were on snet i gave used to flip it there when i was bored i just couldnt watch it. they scored alot but it was still boring

exaclty how i felt, thats why it died in van

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 07:56 PM

View PostBureBure-1096, on Oct 16 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

exaclty how i felt, thats why it died in van

quite the tragedy considering lacrosse is the national sport
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:13 PM

this might be the worst news for the new boston franchise that was sposed to start play this season...this might end up killing them off before they even start
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:15 PM

Go Salmonbellies!
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:19 PM

Why are most of you in this thread commenting if you don't even like Lacrosse? Lacrosse is FAR from boring. However, i will admit that it doesn't translate as well to TV. (partially because the production values sucked) Go watch a Minto Cup game, or a Junior A Prov. game and tell me that's boring. Lacrosse is meant to be watched live.

But that's fine, we Lacrosse players pride ourselves in the fact it is a Fringe sport, cause most of the people who bash it wouldn't even last one game.

Anyway, I'm not overly upset about the canceling of the season since the Ravens are still gone. But if the players get some significant increase in Salary, it will all be worth it in the long run. I have some friends in NLL, so I feel bad for them though. Hopefully the Ravens will be back when the NLL returns as well.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:23 PM

View PostBureBure-1096, on Oct 16 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

exaclty how i felt, thats why it died in van


WRONG

it died in Vancouver because they were playing Downtown at GM Place. People downtown don't give a crap about Lacrosse.(or even hockey) Generally For sports to thrive downtown they need to be the "thing" to do, the "Hot" ticket(Which Hockey is) So the corporate business people will get involved. The Lacrosse hotspots are in places like Burnaby, PoCo, Coquitlam, Surrey, Langely etc. Getting Downtown is an annoyance for them. Not to mention that GM Place has high rent and tickets aren't exactly expensive.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:28 PM

I like lacrosse, its fun to watch. I've always enjoyed it.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:28 PM

View Postwestsideconnect, on Oct 16 2007, 01:07 AM, said:

Wow those guys make jack-all. My kids not playing lacrosse.


Ever heard of a Scholarship?

Ivy League Schools and Top Universities in the USA scout Canadian players frequently. (Especially Burnaby and the Lower Mainland) A lot of people of have gotten full-rides and recieved top notch educations.

Unfortunately I never got that scholarship and play(ed) for SFU :(....still fun though :D only team in Canada.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:35 PM

$6,880 for a rookie?

JaMarcus Russell (rookie NFL QB) is being paid $61 million over 6 years.

It would take just over 8,866 years for an NLL player to earn that much on a rookie contract. 1478 times as long.

Good thing these guys work full time.

But yah, I find lacrosse incredibly dull. Just my opinion. Not bashing others for liking it.

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