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Anyone Scared Luongo won't re-sign with us? 4 years isn't enough to build up much Loyalty

#1 User is offline   We Want Glory Icon


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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:11 PM

Anyone scared Luongo might leave once he is a UFA against to a team like Colorado when he becomes a UFA?

Our team is pretty mediocore right now because we don't have any forwards that can score besides the Sedin twins that only play good against weak opposition. We pride ourselves on good defensive hockey yet we find a way to blow leads and lose games in the 3rd period all the time and good teams don't do that as consistently as the Vancouver Canucks.

Larchied always talks about "Canucks Hockey" but giving up leads is what I think of when I think about "Canucks Hockey", even with the best goalie in the league.

Our defense is getting older and more injury prone. I mean Ohlund is not the same dominant player he once was when he could grab players along the boards and hold them back with his stick. His foot speed isn't there anymore and with his NTC we are stuck with him.

Bieksa is either injured or suffering from the pressure of a large contract because his play is worse than Kracijek at this point. Not what you call top 4 quality right now.

Salo is good but brittle and no doubt in my mind he will probably have a few injuries during the season whether it be groin, shoulder or tail bone again. When he is in the line up he is our best defencemen but if you go by the stats he has missed a lot of games the last few seasons.

Mitchell is good but he is 1 dimensional

in short , our defense is overrated and not as good as it is on paper.

Our much bigger problem is offense.

Raymond, Grabner, Hansen, Simek will probably not be ready to be full time legitimate top 6 forwards for 2 or 3 years. By that time Luongo contract is expiring and our defense gets worse and older.

Sedin twins are only good against weak teams but when they go up against teams with good defencemen like Anaheim, Detroit they become invisible because Lidstrom and those type players will contain them 24/7. They are good against the Oilers because their defencemen don't take the body and let them play pass all night long.

Naslund and Mo are inconsistent and past their prime. THeir point totals over the last 3 seasons are an indication of that. Enough said there.

Free Agents, all the good ones are going to be locked up again and there is no guarentee that you get the UFA you want as 29 other teams could be competing for that player. Heatley and Marleau were the guys that would have made a difference but they already got extensions.

So going into Luongo final year our defense gets older and worse, our offense barely improves and all the quality FA will not be coming here, our system probably gets old and we won't contend for the cup.

Luongo wants to win badly and decides Vancouver can't do that so he goes to a team like Detroit in the offseason.

I hope Luongo re-signs here but 4 years isn't enough to build up that much loyalty in signing another long term contract if the team isn't improving. I don't see our team getting any better because Free Agents that would have been the last piece to the puzzle are already under contract extensions with their clubs.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:12 PM

lets hope nonis gets a true top 6 at least next year and the team plays well. luongo doesnt want to waste time.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:13 PM

Luongo was willing to extend his contract with the crappy Panthers, why wouldn't he stay with the Canucks?
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:14 PM

By the time Luongos contract is up, our offensive prospects will be well on their way in the NHL (I'm assuming). Our defence is looking great for years to come.

I have no worries about Luongo re-signing in Vancouver. He hasnt played for a city like Vancouver in his NHL career, and he gets treated very well here.

I wouldnt worry about it.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:14 PM

im not too concerned. a lot changes in 4 years. maybe we can get by with a slightly less heroic goalie by then, or have corey schnieder be the franchise


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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:15 PM

unless nonis put real skills upfront and good defence, i dont see loungo signing up after his contract expires.


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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:16 PM

If Luongo does re-sign, Schnieder will hopefully be a vauluable chip by then.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:16 PM

View PostENuck, on Oct 16 2007, 02:13 PM, said:

Luongo was willing to extend his contract with the crappy Panthers, why wouldn't he stay with the Canucks?

well that was the team that drafted him wasnt it? so he may feel more loyal to them even tho they suck donkey


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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:18 PM

A lot of him re-signing will have to do with how good our prospects develop (talking about guys like Grabner, Bourdon, Edler, Raymond, Hansen) and whether or not we can bring in some very high quality impact players through Free Agency to be a real contender within these next few years.

Luongo wants to win and in the prime of his career he could almost hand pick any team he wants to go on because GM's would be willing to move players to get a guy like Lu.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:19 PM

View PostNenok, on Oct 16 2007, 04:16 PM, said:

well that was the team that drafted him wasnt it? so he may feel more loyal to them even tho they suck donkey

Islanders drafted Luongo.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:19 PM

View PostNenok, on Oct 16 2007, 04:16 PM, said:

well that was the team that drafted him wasnt it? so he may feel more loyal to them even tho they suck donkey

Islanders drafted Luongo.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:20 PM

View PostNenok, on Oct 16 2007, 02:16 PM, said:

well that was the team that drafted him wasnt it? so he may feel more loyal to them even tho they suck donkey

Nope. Luongo was drafted by the Islanders and traded to the Panthers after playing 24 games in NY.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:29 PM

Luongo won't sign here if we aren't contenders.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:48 PM

Barring some unforeseeable circumstance, management is going to do everything they can to re-sign him. I don't see Luongo as the type to say, "screw you, I don't want to be here."

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:49 PM

He might be willing to stay here if the fans would stop booing him everytime he made a save ;)

Seriously though he is treated like a god in this city. Even on an off night we give him the benefit of the doubt and go easy on him, while other players get ripped apart on these boards.

But it does all come down to the money and if we save our pennies and pay him well in a couple years I am sure he would stay.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:51 PM

10.7M freed up from large expiring contracts this offseason should help.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:51 PM

I love how our team winning 3 of 6 makes our team bad enough that in 2 more years he's going to just up and leave.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:55 PM

View PostNenok, on Oct 16 2007, 09:16 PM, said:

well that was the team that drafted him wasnt it? so he may feel more loyal to them even tho they suck donkey

NYI Drafted him.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 02:59 PM

i am personally terrified that we will build our team around him and come to expect his level of goaltending and then he will not re-sign here. we have to make improvements and be a serious cup contending team so that he will re-sign with us.


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Posted 16 October 2007 - 03:03 PM

Not a chance. Lou stays and is happy to do so!
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