Silverforge Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 http://www.theprovince.com/health/injury+woes+continue+more+changes+made+card/2272799/story.html As of right now the UFC doesn't have a heavyweight division Not counting Fedor, the UFC still has the best active HW division in the game, injuries and all. Which isn't a point plus for Mr White, just a sad comment on the amount of decent 225+ fighters out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Not counting Fedor, the UFC still has the best active HW division in the game, injuries and all. Which isn't a point plus for Mr White, just a sad comment on the amount of decent 225+ fighters out there. I'm going to have to disagree on this as of right now. They literally have no one left. Everyone is out. Strikeforce's last card had more heavyweights on it than the UFC has left that are worth anything. Just because the UFC lets fighters go doesn't mean they are suddenly crappy fighters. There are tons of heavyweight fighters that are worth something out there. They just aren't in the UFC. A David Abbott Mustapha al Turk Mustapha Al-Turk Jimmy Ambriz Andrei Arlovski B Josh Barnett Pat Barry Robert Berry Rob Broughton Mark Buchanan Paul Buentello Geoff Bumstead Mark Burch C Paul Cahoon Bo Cantrell Shane Carwin Patrick Castillo George Castro Rafael Cavalcante Hong Man Choi Mu Bae Choi Mike Ciesnolevicz Wayne Cole Mark Coleman Mike Cook Dewey Cooper Randy Couture Marcio Cruz D Richard Dalton Yang Dong Yi Junior Dos Santos John Doyle Edson Drago E Justin Eilers Aleksander Emelianenko Fedor Emelianenko Dan Evensen F Rafael Feijao Kevin Ferguson Mirko Filipovic Julius Francis Ian Freeman Don Frye Kazuyuki Fujita G Travis Galbraith Gabriel Gonzaga Gary Goodridge Chase Gormley Roger Gracie Rolles Gracie Peter Graham Neil Grove H Antoni Hardonk Lee Hasdell Carlton Haselrig Josh Hendricks Heath Herring Sam Holloway Justin Howard Mark Hunt Lee Tae Hyun I Brad Imes J Antoine Jaoude Scott Junk K Ralph Kelly Sergei Kharitonov Cheick Kongo Piotr Kusmierz L Jerome LeBanner Brock Lesnar M Jay McCown Justin McCully James McSweeney Frank Mir Tatsuya Mizuno Jeff Monson Carlos Moreno Brad Morris Jon Murphy N Yoshihiro Nakao Pawel Nastula Roy Nelson Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira O Jake O'Brien Dominic Ostich Shane Ott Alistair Overeem Valentijn Overeem P Robert Paczkow Soa Palelei Daniel Puder R Popek Rak Alexandre Ribeiro Pedro Rizzo Colin Robinson Ricco Rodriguez Brett Rogers Ben Rothwell Robert Ruiz Mike Russow S Eddie Sanchez Evangelista Santos Ivan Serati Carl Seumanutafa Ken Shamrock Kiril Sidelnikov Antonio Silva Assuerio Silva Kevin Simms Adam Smith Maurice Smith Krzysztof Soszynski Dennis Stojnioc Stefan Struve Takashi Sugiura Tim Sylvia T Kazuo Takahashi Makoto Takimoto Tengiz Tedoradze James Thompson Matt Thompson Gary Turner V Cain Velasquez Brandon Vera Bryan Vetell W Neil Wain Roman Webber Christian Wellisch Fabricio Werdum Mike Wessel Jay White Jonathan Wiezorek Travis Wiuff Y Yoshihisa Yamamoto Jim York Hidehiko Yoshida Gilbert Yvel Z Roman Zentsov Edited November 29, 2009 by Harbinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmau5 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 someone mentioned this pages back but I hate how on every preview of the next ultimate fighter they always throw Kimbo in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax19 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 someone mentioned this pages back but I hate how on every preview of the next ultimate fighter they always throw Kimbo in there... Well that was the whole big draw to this season. So why wouldn't they hype it up to get more viewers? Either way, he's confirmed to be fighting in the finale anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverforge Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'm going to have to disagree on this as of right now. They literally have no one left. Everyone is out. Strikeforce's last card had more heavyweights on it than the UFC has left that are worth anything. Just because the UFC lets fighters go doesn't mean they are suddenly crappy fighters. There are tons of heavyweight fighters that are worth something out there. They just aren't in the UFC. There is a lot of hw's out there, and I'll admit I don't have a huge knowledge of them all. I guess I just haven't seen many impressive looking HW's in a while that aren't in the UFC, some names excluded obviously. And I agree with you on the point that the UFC terminating a contract doesn't mean the fighter is instantly garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 There is a lot of hw's out there, and I'll admit I don't have a huge knowledge of them all. I guess I just haven't seen many impressive looking HW's in a while that aren't in the UFC, some names excluded obviously. And I agree with you on the point that the UFC terminating a contract doesn't mean the fighter is instantly garbage. I'll give credit where credit is due. Dana White has managed to grab up a lot of good fighters. But he's also managed to minimize anyone else out there that isn't under his umbrella. For the UFC this is good management. But for fighters and for MMA as a whole, It's not so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordichuk Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dana has also managed to get regulation in many places. Like Massachusets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 If anyone is interested, the next episode of TUF 11 has leaked. It was played in Australia and can be found on the internet. http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V87I8SDW Thats the link. This is only one of the two episodes supposed to be playing this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusclePrime Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 If anyone is interested, the next episode of TUF 11 has leaked. It was played in Australia and can be found on the internet. http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V87I8SDW Thats the link. This is only one of the two episodes supposed to be playing this week. Sweet. Thanks man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Deadline Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Impressive, Schaub knocks out Big Marcus in just one round. Doctor Belly makes it to the final also. Schaub's my pick to win it. He actually has cardio.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Dana has also managed to get regulation in many places. Like Massachusets. I personally enjoyed watching fights more where when the guy was down you still could knee and kick them in the head. I'm not one to care where the fights were being held but rather what was going on in them. Here's a little shogun treat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI3Ic7IDofw Edited December 1, 2009 by Harbinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Impressive, Schaub knocks out Big Marcus in just one round. Doctor Belly makes it to the final also. Schaub's my pick to win it. He actually has cardio.. How do you know this? Only one episode leaked. Or are you just making guesses? I am confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmau5 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Impressive, Schaub knocks out Big Marcus in just one round. Doctor Belly makes it to the final also. Schaub's my pick to win it. He actually has cardio.. thanks, now there is really no point to watch it now titties knocked out big marcus?? ... unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax19 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Spoiler tags people SPOILER tags!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordichuk Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I personally enjoyed watching fights more where when the guy was down you still could knee and kick them in the head. I'm not one to care where the fights were being held but rather what was going on in them. Here's a little shogun treat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI3Ic7IDofw The more regulation, the likelier younger players can get into the sport, the better fighters will be produced in the long run. I'm holding out for MMA to be competed at the university level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Deadline Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 "Hey Prof, I can't write the exam today because I got KTFO last night. My apologies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusclePrime Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Impressive, Schaub knocks out Big Marcus in just one round. Doctor Belly makes it to the final also. Schaub's my pick to win it. He actually has cardio.. Dipcrap over here has no idea what hes talking about unless he somehow managed to watch next weeks episode. None of that stuff happened in the episode the other guy posted. Edited December 1, 2009 by MusclePrime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Deadline Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dipcrap over here has no idea what hes talking about unless he somehow managed to watch next weeks episode. None of that stuff happened in the episode the other guy posted. I do know what I'm talking about and I have my sources. I've seen not only next weeks episode but the one after as well. Believe it or not, it's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 The more regulation, the likelier younger players can get into the sport, the better fighters will be produced in the long run. I'm holding out for MMA to be competed at the university level. I understand why you might like it that way and see why you may hope for that. I just don't agree that regulation is a good thing when trying to find out who the best "Fighter" is. When a guy gets into the North South position in a real fight. That fight is pretty much done with. With regulation that has completely been lost. If a puncher gets caught on the ground all he has to do is hold on and he is literally given a chance to get on his feet by the ref. These things are not what fighting is about. They are the antithesis of finding out who is actually the best fighter. Even 5 minute rounds is a cop out. Too often fight outcomes are more about getting to the end of the round than actually trying to do any fighting. Like I said earlier. I would be fine with less fights as long as the product wasn't so watered down for mass public appeal. I'm a purist and I look back on the late 90's to mid 2000's as the heyday of the good fights. It's been a slow decline in the quality of fights that are being shown now. That can be attributed to both regulation to garner acceptance as well as the loss of any real promotional competition for the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Deadline Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dipcrap over here has no idea what hes talking about unless he somehow managed to watch next weeks episode. None of that stuff happened in the episode the other guy posted. Oh and reported for personal attack; "dipcrap". Cry more young butterfly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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