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Your 2009/2010 Vancouver Canucks Roster/ Off-Season changes Keep ALL lineup and offseason suggestions in here

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Post icon  Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:13 PM

We all know everyone on here wants to see their own version of a 08/09 roster, and the threads on it are getting a little ridiculous, so, from now on all threads made with next season lineup proposals will be merged with this one, now you dont need to make a new thread to see if anyone else agrees with you.

I dont want to deal with all the number crunching, but i'll point out my keys to the off-season, and then my realistic lineup proposal:

1. Hansen-Kesler-Burrows: Kesler and Burrows have both proven they can be 20 and 15 goal players respectively, and Hansen also has that 20 goal potential, all 3 guys are chippy, fast, boast sound if not terrific defensive capabilites, and you have the pest in Burrows, the shut-down guy in Kesler, and the corners kid in Hansen, this is a perfect checking line with ample scoring ability.

2. Naslund and Mo gone: We blew up the core once, we need to do it again, i love Mo but injuries are now a problem. As much as Naslund can still chip in the scoring department, for this team to find some new and invigorating leadership he CANNOT stay on board, stripping him of the C will do little if anything to solve the problem, he has to not be on the roster. Too many players are too used to seeing him as the Captain and seeing him in the room to readily shift allegiance to our new captain, the only way we can move on is if we move past our failures.

3. Mitchell gets the C, Ohlund gets an A, Kesler gets an A. See above post, we need to give the heart and soul guys the letters on their chest, and Ohlund an A because of how strong a mentor he is likely to be.

4. Give the prospects a shot: We gave Raymond a shot and he proved he can stick, time to do the same for Grabner, he's been outstanding this year in Manitoba and proved that when he is given an opportunity to play with the kind of players who can produce along side him, he can produce goals and excitement in bushels. Grabner is the kind of player who does poorly if given poor player to play with, but almost excels at a magnitude as he plays with better players, the difference between playing with 2nd liners on the Moose squad and playing with 1st liners on the Moose squad was more noticeable than most who would play with those two groups of players. Bourdon also needs to be given a full roster spot, he's a big game player and also has always played better when challenged, he was asked to completely refine his game in Cape Breton and to be a shutdown D-man, and he did so in glorious fashion, then he was asked to be the offensive dynamo earlier in the year for the Moose, and he did so.

5. As for free agents: all i can say is the Sedins need a linemate that is dangerous out there, the one thing the Sedins have never been is dangerous, they're systematic and sound, but not dangerous, they dont creep up on you and score, you can see their goals coming 5 seconds before they come. They need a dangerous player. Normally i would say they need a young Power Forward, but i dont think there's enough of those available this off-season. The guy i would go after is Ales Kotalik.

6. I would want to see either Bieksa or Salo traded: these are the only two expendable assets we have that still have some mrket value and can get us either a 1st line RW through trade if we throw in prospects, or a 2nd line winger if by themselves. Bieksa is young but we have depth to fill in for him, and Salo's hit is too much and he's not getting any younger, plus his offensive prowess can easily be made up by the emergence of Bourdon and Edler, they can easily notch 10-15 a piece next year, and Salo's shot is NOT want it once was.

As for the rest of the roster, i trust Nonis in getting some young top-6 talent, here's what my lineup would look like with holes: (and the players traded i would want traded)

Sedin-Sedin-Kotalik
Pettinger-Pyatt-Malone
Hansen-Kesler-Burrows
Raymond-Kessel-Grabner

Ohlund-Edler
Mitchell-Bieksa
Bourdon-Prospect/UFA*

Luongo
MacIntyre



*Ellington, Heshka, Fortunus, Weaver, Miller, who knows

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:21 PM

i think that burrows-kesler- avery would be the best checking/agitating line in the nhl with a damn good offensive contribution as well, nonis should push to sign avery. it would also help the team develop that hard nose hard to play against style they have been trying to achieve the last 2 years
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:21 PM

first post

canu say in short wut ur sayin

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:26 PM

i so suggested you to make this thread :P

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:27 PM

View Postwiiownes2, on Apr 4 2008, 02:21 PM, said:

first post

canu say in short wut ur sayin


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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:42 PM

that roster wont even come close to making the playoffs....
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:44 PM

View PostPavel_Bure*, on Apr 4 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

that roster wont even come close to making the playoffs....

I dont see you wowing us with your armchair GM abilities, so you dont really have any grounds on which to stand to make such a statement

There's way more goal scoring ability on that roster than there was this year, and we almost made it, plus there's more heart and more youth, which are the 2 biggest problems for this franchise

I'd rather roll 3 quality bottom 9 lines than 1 good line and 2 plug lines

With a great defense you dont need outstanding scoring ability, wake up

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:46 PM

View PostToxic, on Apr 4 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

I dont see you wowing us with your armchair GM abilities, so you dont really have any grounds on which to stand to make such a statement

There's way more goal scoring ability on that roster than there was this year, and we almost made it, plus there's more heart and more youth, which are the 2 biggest problems for this franchise

This team will never win with the sedins as our top line

yes i realize it is impossible to get a full top line in a offseason

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:49 PM

View PostToxic, on Apr 4 2008, 02:44 PM, said:

I dont see you wowing us with your armchair GM abilities, so you dont really have any grounds on which to stand to make such a statement

There's way more goal scoring ability on that roster than there was this year, and we almost made it, plus there's more heart and more youth, which are the 2 biggest problems for this franchise

I'd rather roll 3 quality bottom 9 lines than 1 good line and 2 plug lines

With a great defense you dont need outstanding scoring ability, wake up



View PostPavel_Bure*, on Apr 4 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

This team will never win with the sedins as our top line

yes i realize it is impossible to get a full top line in a offseason



Right, i forgot it's going to be so easy to get the Nash-Savard-Ovechking line over here to replace them, its also going to be a piece of cake trading both the sedins for 2 quality 1st line players

Grow up, stop trying to relive the past with your Bure tribute and move on, YOU CANT WORK WITH WHAT YOU DONT HAVE, SO WORK WITH WHAT YOU DO HAVE

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:53 PM

View PostToxic, on Apr 4 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

Right, i forgot it's going to be so easy to get the Nash-Savard-Ovechking line over here to replace them, its also going to be a piece of cake trading both the sedins for 2 quality 1st line players

Grow up, stop trying to relive the past with your Bure tribute and move on, YOU CANT WORK WITH WHAT YOU DONT HAVE, SO WORK WITH WHAT YOU DO HAVE


Work with what you have and trade the sedins
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:55 PM

Trade them or get them a top 6 winger which Kotalik is not...
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:55 PM

Fine, whos gonna take em, and what are u gonna get back, and whos gonna replace them
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:00 PM

View PostToxic, on Apr 4 2008, 03:55 PM, said:

Fine, whos gonna take em, and what are u gonna get back, and whos gonna replace them

Whos going to take them?

Are you kidding me , 29 other teams in the NHL would want them

What will the canucks get back?

Who knows , We got a pretty decent deal for luongo

Who will replace them?

Obviously who ever we get in the trade plus a UFA or another trade
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:12 PM

we need a power forward line wioth some one who is a threat, we have a good checking line, a new vetren(we cant be like chicago only young ppl), luongo nneds to step up and a good defense wich mitchell can do.

i say Mitchel=A ohlund= A (team vetren really cause honestly miller sucks) kesler=C (hes wairing an a currently) :lol:
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:13 PM

Something that has guys like Kotalik, Malone, Rolston, Knuble, Connolly, Cole on them.

I'll figure out my take on the offseason on another day.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:13 PM

Hossa (7mill) Morrison(2.5mill) Naslund(4mill)
Sedin (3.5mil) Sedin (3.5mill) Huseliuis (4mill)
Burrows(500k) Kesler (1.7mill) Raymond (500k)
Pyatt (1.5mill) Shannon (500k) Hansen (500k)

Ohlund(3.5mill) Edler (500K)
Salo (3.5mill) Krajicek(1.1mill)
Bieksa (4mil) Mitchell(3.5mill)

Luongo (7mill)
Hedberg (800k)

Spares: Linden (450K)
Weaver (600k)

Regular Moose callups:
Michael Grabner
Luc Bourdon
Rick Rypien

Roughly 54 mill spent on the cap. (cap supposedly going up to 56 mill)


And if we can somehow get some of our prospects from Russia to play for the Moose and develop
Such as, Shirokov, and Kablukov, maybe Koltsov
then our depth would be really solid

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:15 PM

Seeing Kotalik and Pettinger in the first and second line makes me to feel uneasy.
It's understandable for people hear to be negative about them.
Then again, I don't know who else you can get this year.

Sure, it's easy to say trade Sedins away. You do know the entire league knows Sedin line works only when they're together?
Beside, I'm very sure Nonis will trade both of them if he thinks that trade will benefit us more.
Don't just say trade people away just because you don't like them...come on...
As of right now, we can't really do anything.
The roster I see above isn't the best looking one and I don't like it, but also it's probably the most realistic rosters I've seen on CDC yet.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:22 PM

View Postwce_reloaded, on Apr 4 2008, 04:13 PM, said:

Hossa (7mill) Morrison(2.5mill) Naslund(4mill)
Sedin (3.5mil) Sedin (3.5mill) Huseliuis (4mill)
Burrows(500k) Kesler (1.7mill) Raymond (500k)
Pyatt (1.5mill) Shannon (500k) Hansen (500k)

Ohlund(3.5mill) Edler (500K)
Salo (3.5mill) Krajicek(1.1mill)
Bieksa (4mil) Mitchell(3.5mill)

Luongo (7mill)
Hedberg (800k)

Spares: Linden (450K)
Weaver (600k)

Regular Moose callups:
Michael Grabner
Luc Bourdon
Rick Rypien

Roughly 54 mill spent on the cap. (cap supposedly going up to 56 mill)


And if we can somehow get some of our prospects from Russia to play for the Moose and develop
Such as, Shirokov, and Kablukov, maybe Koltsov
then our depth would be really solid


As of right now, 2.5 million is an an overpayment for Morrison, and Naslund for 4 million HA! + he is not coming back
That defense looks good, but our forward unit has no toughneses and are 4th line is supposed to be filled with crashers and bangers and fighters, but you have a 20 goal scorer, a rookie and an unproven tiny shannon

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:27 PM

i think it should go like this .

Sedin Sedin Hossa
Shannon Raymond Brunstrom (if hes still avalible we should get him.)
Burrows Kesler Hansen
M.Brown Pyatt Grabner
Pettinger

Ohlund Edler
Krajicek Bourdon
Mitchell Bieksa

Luongo
Macintyre/Sanford

Call ups : Weaver, hopefully Patrick White, Mciver,
I doubt we could get Hossa though.
I think we should try to trade Salo and his salary. i realize that raymond isnt a center but i jsut put that temporarily to get the idea.
Maybe we could pursue David Vyborny., although he is 32 but maybe he will play for 2 mill.
Manny Malhotra would make a good 3rd/4th line energy player. A better version of Ritchie

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:39 PM

View PostTheKlatter26, on Apr 4 2008, 04:27 PM, said:

i think it should go like this .

Sedin Sedin Hossa
Shannon Raymond Brunstrom (if hes still avalible we should get him.)
Burrows Kesler Hansen
M.Brown Pyatt Grabner
Pettinger

Ohlund Edler
Krajicek Bourdon
Mitchell Bieksa

Luongo
Macintyre/Sanford

Call ups : Weaver, hopefully Patrick White, Mciver,
I doubt we could get Hossa though.
I think we should try to trade Salo and his salary. i realize that raymond isnt a center but i jsut put that temporarily to get the idea.
Maybe we could pursue David Vyborny., although he is 32 but maybe he will play for 2 mill.
Manny Malhotra would make a good 3rd/4th line energy player. A better version of Ritchie



Thats about the same or less scoring than we had this year, a solid first line, but the rest are all unproven, with the second feature all rookies who have very little NHL experience, and again very little toughness

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