[topbanana]

Twinder6, on May 24 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

What? And here I though that letter was written just for me...

me too, i am gutted

[lumpy]

Wetcoaster, on May 24 2008, 11:28 AM, said:

If I meant "empathize" I would have used that word. In terms of grammar correction and use of words ... don't try to teach your Grandma to suck eggs.

And on the point of "family responsiblity":

You should consider getting a piece of optional equipment to help you along on CDC. I find using a sarcasm detector to be quite useful on these Boards. Here is one put together by the guy down the street and available from the management at CDC. It is a basic model but does the job for most posters:


I decided to get a more deluxe version not available for sale through CDC.


And then I really splurged so I could handle the occasional more learned post where the author eschews sarcasm and goes for its classier relative irony. This is a software solution so you need have some facility in installing programs:


Here is what the author of the program has to say about it:


Try it out. It will help you understand posts that have some subtlety and avoid making huge errors in judgment as here.

ohh... so when someone points out a flaw in your argument u just say "i was being sarcastic" - pretty convenient

empathy [(em-puh-thee)]

Identifying oneself completely with an object or person, sometimes even to the point of responding physically, as when, watching a baseball player swing at a pitch, one feels one's own muscles flex.

sym·pa·thy Audio Help /ˈsɪmpəθi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sim-puh-thee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural -thies, adjective
–noun 1. harmony of or agreement in feeling, as between persons or on the part of one person with respect to another.
2. the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions.
3. the fact or power of sharing the feelings of another, esp. in sorrow or trouble; fellow feeling, compassion, or commiseration.
4. sympathies, a. feelings or impulses of compassion.
b. feelings of favor, support, or loyalty: It's hard to tell where your sympathies lie.

5. favorable or approving accord; favor or approval: He viewed the plan with sympathy and publicly backed it.
6. agreement, consonance, or accord.
7. Psychology. a relationship between persons in which the condition of one induces a parallel or reciprocal condition in another.
8. Physiology. the relation between parts or organs whereby a condition or disorder of one part induces some effect in another.
–adjective 9. expressing sympathy: a sympathy card; a sympathy vote.


Since I have not sustained any injuries that would have resulted in an end of a potential career in the NHL - I can only sympathize what you have went through. However, you can empathize with MG b/c you actually know the experience of having an career ending injury.

to sympathize is to feel sorry for someone
to empathize is to feel the other person's pain

-- apologies to the rest of the cdc'ers for taking this discussion off track

[brownky]

All that is bunk until we're searching for a new coach...when there isn't one available.

This is beyond frustrating... all the pieces were falling into place then BAM: Re-sign Idiotman.

Doomed to competing with columbus for tavares.

...actually that doesnt sound half bad.

[Wetcoaster]

lumpy, on May 24 2008, 12:25 PM, said:

ohh... so when someone points out a flaw in your argument u just say "i was being sarcastic" - pretty convenient

empathy [(em-puh-thee)]

Identifying oneself completely with an object or person, sometimes even to the point of responding physically, as when, watching a baseball player swing at a pitch, one feels one's own muscles flex.

sym·pa·thy Audio Help /ˈsɪmpəθi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sim-puh-thee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural -thies, adjective
–noun 1. harmony of or agreement in feeling, as between persons or on the part of one person with respect to another.
2. the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions.
3. the fact or power of sharing the feelings of another, esp. in sorrow or trouble; fellow feeling, compassion, or commiseration.
4. sympathies, a. feelings or impulses of compassion.
b. feelings of favor, support, or loyalty: It's hard to tell where your sympathies lie.

5. favorable or approving accord; favor or approval: He viewed the plan with sympathy and publicly backed it.
6. agreement, consonance, or accord.
7. Psychology. a relationship between persons in which the condition of one induces a parallel or reciprocal condition in another.
8. Physiology. the relation between parts or organs whereby a condition or disorder of one part induces some effect in another.
–adjective 9. expressing sympathy: a sympathy card; a sympathy vote.


Since I have not sustained any injuries that would have resulted in an end of a potential career in the NHL - I can only sympathize what you have went through. However, you can empathize with MG b/c you actually know the experience of having an career ending injury.

to sympathize is to feel sorry for someone
to empathize is to feel the other person's pain

-- apologies to the rest of the cdc'ers for taking this discussion off track

The point was I wanted to be hired so sympathy was the way to go. Empathy is not helpfull to my plea. Feel sorry for me and hire me. Hence sympathy.

If you were unable to see the irony in the letter I produced, how about comparing it to the original?

Note the following clues:

I do not have a daughter who plays field hockey and in fact I am divorced with no children so I can devote 24 hours a day to working for the team and not be bothered by those silly family responsibilities like you.

We all know that an agent being hired in a teams hockey operation department is a rare thing but my own unique experiences will allow me the opportunity to do a great job. HIRE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now I have to get back to my job of trying to bring light to the darkness that is CDC.

And my sig:

Wetcoaster

CDC gadfly

"Gadfly" is a term for people who upset the status quo by posing upsetting or novel questions. Seems to fit.

If you think this letter was an "argument" then I really do not know what to to say to you other than take a writing class.

[Wetcoaster]

fearitself, on May 24 2008, 12:04 PM, said:

What, you didnt know right away that it wasnt actually the poster but Mike Gillis?

are you one of those "world stops turning if there is too much foam in your latte" people?

This may help persons with such an affliction - a do-it-yourself guide to foaming.
http://coffeegeek.co...uide/steamguide

Personally I use a Saeco espresso machine with an Ulka 41W vibratory pump - the very same pump that sits inside the venerable Rancilio Silvia - now that baby can froth milk.

[lumpy]

Wetcoaster, on May 24 2008, 01:01 PM, said:

The point was I wanted to be hired so sympathy was the way to go. Empathy is not helpfull to my plea. Feel sorry for me and hire me. Hence sympathy.

If you were unable to see the irony in the letter I produced, how about comparing it to the original?

Note the following clues:

I do not have a daughter who plays field hockey and in fact I am divorced with no children so I can devote 24 hours a day to working for the team and not be bothered by those silly family responsibilities like you.

We all know that an agent being hired in a teams hockey operation department is a rare thing but my own unique experiences will allow me the opportunity to do a great job. HIRE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now I have to get back to my job of trying to bring light to the darkness that is CDC.

And my sig:

Wetcoaster

CDC gadfly

"Gadfly" is a term for people who upset the status quo by posing upsetting or novel questions. Seems to fit.

If you think this letter was an "argument" then I really do not know what to to say to you other than take a writing class.

writing class?? i'm typing not writing

fair enough - i should have perhaps used the term "appeal" or "plea" instead of "argument"

"i know what you've been through, and I feel what you feel about the team and hockey" might also be a useful plea to get yourself hired..

just b/c one word favours you more than another - doesn't make it the correct one - for example, i could use the more favourable word "genious" to describe you, but...

well lunch time -- thanks for making today a bit more interesting though..

[gm-place]

fearitself, on May 24 2008, 02:04 PM, said:

What, you didnt know right away that it wasnt actually the poster but Mike Gillis?

are you one of those "world stops turning if there is too much foam in your latte" people?

It5's just proper etiquette you little smart donkey kid..
Give proper credit to the author by using quotes
Just don't copy and paste

Not that difficult?
No

[PlayStation]

Omg hes from Toronto The world is coming to an end!

[Wetcoaster]

lumpy, on May 24 2008, 02:55 PM, said:

writing class?? i'm typing not writing

fair enough - i should have perhaps used the term "appeal" or "plea" instead of "argument"

"i know what you've been through, and I feel what you feel about the team and hockey" might also be a useful plea to get yourself hired..

just b/c one word favours you more than another - doesn't make it the correct one - for example, i could use the more favourable word "genious" to describe you, but...

well lunch time -- thanks for making today a bit more interesting though..

Writing in this case is used as a noun or an adjective and not a verb - the act of putting something in written form. Typing is what you do on the keyboard to put your writing into a form for others to read.

Since I am doing the writing and I know what I am trying to convey, my view would be correct.

This post has been edited by Wetcoaster: 24 May 2008 - 05:42 PM

[donutz0r]

This is such an epic thread!

[igorwasgreat]

You mean... everyone got this letter. I thought I was special ( good special ) Hope he keeps his word.

[BedBeats™]

Gillis should have included some game tickets for next season in that letter.

I guess i should check my e-mail.

[Burrows 4 Eva]

Wait.....I never got a letter!?!?!?!?
Gillis you whore, how come I didn't get one I feel so left out!

I like Gillis except the fact that he's from Toronto......he's probably gonna try to get Mats Sundin for Luongo+Sedins+Kesler+Bourdon+Salo+Bieksa+Edler+Mitchell+1st and 2nd round picks till 2020!!!!!!

Gillis you miserable East Coaster, just for not sending me a letter I'm going to start badmouthing you all over CDC. Bwahahahahaha!

[fearitself]

gm-place, on May 24 2008, 10:08 PM, said:

It5's just proper etiquette you little smart donkey kid..
Give proper credit to the author by using quotes
Just don't copy and paste

Not that difficult?
No

Turn off the taps there mr. sniffles

You should spend more time pointing out things that might actually make a difference instead of the obvious that everyone ignores because pointing it out is hardly worth it in certain cases. (like this one)

however, maybe you helped somone that might have actually thought that it was the posters bio. Or maybe the OP is actually Mike Gillis!?

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." -Buddha

Props for letting it go, kid, haha

This post has been edited by fearitself: 24 May 2008 - 07:44 PM

[Ghostsof1915]

Mr. Gillis, I appreciate that you enjoyed the city when your daughter moved out here, but that didn't need to be put into the letter. I would have felt better if he said "Nothing will be overlooked in our efforts to improve our club, this goes from the janitor to the top dog."

He did mention that he's looking at building a franchise like Detroit, one that is consistently competitive. That sounds good. But, the proof is in the draft and what he does in the future.

GO CANUCKS GO!

[Masked]

The only thing worse than a lawyer is a................................

[fearitself]

Why are people bashing the fact that he put some personal info in there. He is trying to reach out to the fans and let them know about his passion for the city.

[Wetcoaster]

Masked, on May 24 2008, 08:28 PM, said:

The only thing worse than a lawyer is a................................

........... sinking feeling when you need one and the other side has one.

[Wetcoaster]

Burrows 4 Eva, on May 24 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

Wait.....I never got a letter!?!?!?!?
Gillis you whore, how come I didn't get one I feel so left out!

I like Gillis except the fact that he's from Toronto......he's probably gonna try to get Mats Sundin for Luongo+Sedins+Kesler+Bourdon+Salo+Bieksa+Edler+Mitchell+1st and 2nd round picks till 2020!!!!!!

Gillis you miserable East Coaster, just for not sending me a letter I'm going to start badmouthing you all over CDC. Bwahahahahaha!

Ummm.... in what grade do they begin to teach Canadian geography these days?

What part of Ontario is on the "East Coast"? See below for hint:


He is from Central Canada, born in Sudbury, played junior in Kingston and set his player agency up in Kingston.

This post has been edited by Wetcoaster: 24 May 2008 - 09:23 PM

[Losing With Pride]

Dear Mike Gillis,

Make it happen. Don't be a female dog.

End of story.

-Losing With Pride.