nitronuts Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) We've had a ton of transit topics over the years....lets make this the official one. Some possible visions of Vancouver's transit network in 30-40 years: Edited June 3, 2010 by nitronuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 care to explain what the LRT is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointblank Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 care to explain what the LRT is? Light Rapid Transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Light Rapid Transit. Like this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointblank Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Like this??? Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) Pretty much. Very good, it would be great for people with no cars, but it sure would mess with traffic Edited September 8, 2008 by aerodynamicanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) care to explain what the LRT is? Light rail or light rail transit (LRT) is a form of urban rail public transportation that generally has a lower capacity and lower speed than heavy rail and metro systems. The term is used to refer to modern streetcar/tram systems with rapid transit-style features that usually use electric rail cars operating mostly in private rights-of-way separated from other traffic but sometimes, if necessary, mixed with other traffic in city streets. Given the mixed-traffic nature of light rail, whether it is a true rapid transit system depends on its implementation. Edited September 8, 2008 by nitronuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Light rail or light rail transit (LRT) is a form of urban rail public transportation that generally has a lower capacity and lower speed than heavy rail and metro systems. The term is used to refer to modern streetcar/tram systems with rapid transit-style features that usually use electric rail cars operating mostly in private rights-of-way separated from other traffic but sometimes, if necessary, mixed with other traffic in city streets. Given the mixed-traffic nature of light rail, whether it is a true rapid transit system depends on its implementation. Isn't the last one in Hungary? If it is, its more of a train going from Budapest and Esztergom Plus I love the one in Strabourg and Nice, there the best ones, hands down, great system as well Strasbourg Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointblank Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Isn't the last one in Hungary? If it is, its more of a train going from Budapest and Esztergom Plus I love the one in Strabourg and Nice, there the best ones, hands down, great system as well The last one was the Ottawa Transit O-Train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 The last one was the Ottawa Transit O-Train. Oh they look so similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) Very good, it would be great for people with no cars, but it sure would mess with traffic It'll be a step down from SkyTrain but a step up from the articulated trolleys...in other words, an articulated trolley on steroids. LRT works well in corridors that don't have the demand for high-capacity rapid transit rail systems, like SkyTrain or subways, but are rather more suitable for more lower-capacity rapid transit rail systems like LRT. And it certainly is a good alternative (as they are cheaper to build) for corridors like 41st Avenue, Hastings, Victoria Drive, Arbutus corridor, etc. Often, entire traffic lanes are given to the LRT/streetcar for its own right of way....and the trains are given traffic signal priority at intersections to lower the travel time. In Calgary, they are notorious for car crash accidents....but of course, it happens on every LRT system: Edited September 8, 2008 by nitronuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Oh they look so similar LOL, that's because they're the same...those are Bombardier Talent trains, which Deutsche Bahn of Germany had bought a bulk load of them and Ottawa bought three seldomly used trains from the Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 It'll be a step down from SkyTrain but a step up from the articulated trolleys...in other words, an articulated trolley on steroids. LRT works well in corridors that don't have the demand for high-capacity rapid transit rail systems, like SkyTrain or subways, but are rather more suitable for more lower-capacity rapid transit rail systems like LRT. And it certainly is a good alternative (as they are cheaper to build) for corridors like 41st Avenue, Hastings, Victoria Drive, Arbutus corridor, etc. Often, entire traffic lanes are given to the LRT/streetcar for its own right of way....and the trains are given traffic signal priority at intersections to lower the travel time. In Calgary, they are notorious for car crash accidents....but of course, it happens on every LRT system: "> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Prepare to hear a lot of whining from me about the 491 and 496 routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 But seriously i have said this so many times. The Government should just take the next 20 years and pump loads and loads of cash and build us a high class rapid transit system. And not just 1 line at a time, like 2 lines at a time. Get those 2040 plans done by 2030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) THATS WHY YOU CHECK YOUR BLINDSPOTS LOL I was about to say that I recall that in Nice the LRT's there were kind of blocked off from cars, also it would be better having them on one side of the road not in the middle, also good news, heard on the radio that there will be new seabuses Edited September 8, 2008 by aerodynamicanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) But seriously i have said this so many times. The Government should just take the next 20 years and pump loads and loads of cash and build us a high class rapid transit system. And not just 1 line at a time, like 2 lines at a time. Get those 2040 plans done by 2030 But that IS what your government is planning to do, not necessarily 2040 but with a $12-billion Transit Plan 2020 for the Lower Mainland: SkyTrain extensions and the introduction of Rapid Bus (even better than the B-Line): This $12 billion plan calls for: - $8.3 billion investment in four new rapid transit lines in Metro Vancouver—the Evergreen Line, the UBC Line, the upgraded and extended Expo Line - $1 billion for the purchase of 300 additional Mark II SkyTrain cars - $1.2 billion for a new, cutting edge energy efficient, high capacity RapidBus BC service along nine major routes in Metro Vancouver - $1.6 billion investment in 1,500 new, clean energy buses and related maintenance infrastructure to provide communities around the province with improved bus service - increased security measures to enhance transit safety and use, fare gates, and the introduction of a smart card system The Evergreen Line would be built by 2014, Millennium Line extension to UBC by 2020....as well, Expo Line additional capacity, station renovations, longer platforms, and a Expo SkyTrain 6-km extension in Surrey to Guildford by 2020 and another extension to Newton by 2030. Edited September 8, 2008 by nitronuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Prepare to hear a lot of whining from me about the 491 and 496 routes. The bottom map has a RAV extension going along 1rd, east on granville, and up towards brighouse. That, of course, is going to kick donkey for commuters like me RIGHT NOW. Unfortunately, I will soon be weaned off the upass, and will be driving from point A to point B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 The bottom map has a RAV extension going along 1rd, east on granville, and up towards brighouse. That, of course, is going to kick donkey for commuters like me RIGHT NOW. Unfortunately, I will soon be weaned off the upass, and will be driving from point A to point B. But that's the thing -- I don't actually see that HAPPENING. Otherwise, I'd love it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) But that IS what your government is planning to do, not necessarily 2040 but with a $12-billion Transit Plan 2020 for the Lower Mainland: What about after that And what does conceptual alignment mean? And can you post about the new buses/skytrain cars like you do in those other posts with lots of pictures and detailed explanation :D YOu are so good at that Edited September 8, 2008 by Denrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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