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#121 blood brothers

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:30 PM

lol

armchair gm's from b.c. that probably never stepped on the ice make me laugh

I totally agree .
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:31 PM

More Burrows goodness: he was second on the Canucks in Takeaways, trailing only Ryan Kesler.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:33 PM

are you kidding me
he played so well last year
and he playys 110% every night
hes earned a spot on the team from his hard work
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:35 PM

I know allot of people are going to scorch me for this but I fail to see the reason why nobody questions his ability to play in the nhl. Every game i watch with him in the lineup(all of them) I find myself screaming at the tv because of the stupid stuff the guy does. Personally i'd rather have any of the guys that are fighting for a spot on the team rather than burrows. Everyone's #1 reason they like this guy from what I read on this forum "He's great on the pk. Who cares! Anyone can do this thats fighting for a spot. He can't score and i'm tired of kesler carrying this guy on his back night after night, I'm tired of him losing the puck, falling down everywhere seriously this guy falls down a hundred times a night can't he skate its ridiculous, stupid penalties its endless. "He plays with grit" is another common description tossed out when his name comes up. That ok sure he pisses off guys but fails to do really be able finish that job off by being able to fight because he can't. IMOP he's an embarrassment to the team. Please Gillis let this guy go keep Krog or Pettinger or Brown whoever. let er rip.





Pfff.. Burrows rocks, it'd be a cryin shame to see Burrows go. He plays hard every night, sure he might end up on the ice once in a while, but he's definitely putting his fair share of opponents bodies there too. Not to mention that when he's out there the other team takes notice. PK? Ya he kicks as s! perfect opportunity for a couple of the top line guys get a breather while he runs amok on the other team's PP. Krog? not bad but I have a tough time (so far) replacing Burrows with Krog - not to dis Krog he's great in the faceoff circle and has a good pass I just haven't seen enough of him play to say Wow! - yet.
Brown? meh
Pettinger? rather see hodgson or hansen or raymond or wellwood

As for letting her rip - rip away the 10 mil offer to Mr Can't Make Up His Mind and let's get on with it. Other teams that are "in the hunt" for Mr CMUHM (lol soooo close to chump!) are starting to see the eye rolling, wait till the new year, ho-hum, drag it out as long as possible waiting game. Yaaaawwwn. We can do so much better by saying, "Fine, have a great time playing poker, but we're going to find us a hockey player!!"

Anybody else smell that?? It smells soooo goood!! I wont 'bless it', but I am STOKED about our team. Make it a year to remember boys. I'll keep the beer cold.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:35 PM

More Burrows goodness: he was second on the Canucks in Takeaways, trailing only Ryan Kesler.

We were a terrible team last year . so that is not much to be proud of .
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:38 PM

We were a terrible team last year . so that is not much to be proud of .


And yet, he still led the team in SHG, and +/-.

What's the explanation for that?
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:41 PM

Your opinion is inept. He is perfect at doing his job. He agitates, he is a ferocious checker and he scores an occassional goal.

Buy a clue buddy!




What the hell..are you watching the Vancouver Canucks and Alexander Burrows? Wow..another one of these jerkoffs who thinks that agitators should fight. That is not his role, but he has still done it. Burrows is hard work personafied. You clutch can best be described as someone's bum on someone else's head.



I don't think your watching the same guy as the rest of us. The Alex Burrows I know fights quite often, and even gave Dan Carcillo quite the beating last year. He was also the only player in the league with 30+ points and 150+ penalty minutes. He's the best pest in the league, he works hard, he gets the other team off their game, and he can pot the odd goal. There's nothing not to like about him. Anytime one of your checkers can drive Vinny Lecalvelier so crazy he drops the gloves and takes himself out of the game, you want to keep that guy in your lineup.



burrows is the hardest working player on this team. he's great on the pk and on the forecheck, and when he gets the opportunity, he puts away some of the prettiest goals ever seen. he does a lot more for the canucks than you think.



Man prepare to get hugely flamed
He's probably top 3 agitators in the league and cost almost nothing



Rated 2nd but costs 500k, the op doesn't know what he's talking about



FLAME ON!

31 pts for < $500,000 in a shut down role.

You sir, are a douche.



For the first time in a long time I think the majority of posters are.... agreeing. Wierd. Anyway, at the OP: go watch soccer. I concur with everybody above.
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Alex Burrows is of the same stalk that both Stan Smyl and Trevor Linden were made from. #14 will be the next number we see in the rafters.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:42 PM

And yet, he still led the team in SHG, and +/-.

What's the explanation for that?

he was on the ice because we had no one else.. of course he had inflated numbers. that will change this year.
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#129 clutch

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:42 PM

And yet, he still led the team in SHG, and +/-.

What's the explanation for that?



wow i wonder...hmmmm maybe because when teams are on the pp their not playing defense.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:51 PM

Wow... never thought CDC could get any worse. The guy plays his heart out there and is effective in his role and considering how much he gets paid. This post is probably due to that ONE bad penalty last night b/c he probably forgot about the new rule in the moment. Please END yourself and also put a bullet in your parents before you do so they dont produce another.
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#131 Harry Palms

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:51 PM

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:52 PM

Wow... never thought CDC could get any worse. The guy plays his heart out there and is effective in his role and considering how much he gets paid. This post is probably due to that ONE bad penalty last night b/c he probably forgot about the new rule in the moment. Please END yourself and also put a bullet in your parents before you do so they dont produce another.

intelligent reply thanks for sharing.
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#133 TrevLinden

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:07 PM

OP should just burn his computer and go die or something
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#134 Proud_canuck

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:16 PM

this guy is 32 yrs old? I'd expect such a reply from a 13 yr old who's pretty new to the game and in the OMGWTFBBQ *insert players name* phase when they have a good game but not from an individual who's in his 30's.
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#135 clutch

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:20 PM

don't come to a battle of wits with me proud_canuck your unarmed
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:29 PM

don't come to a battle of wits with me proud_canuck your unarmed


How about a battle of grammar then? :lol:
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:30 PM

Troll alert!
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QUOTE (Spinnaker @ Sep 11 2008, 07:08 AM)
"Watching Burrows play is like watching Gladiator for the first time. It's kinda badass."

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:36 PM

I don't think your watching the same guy as the rest of us. The Alex Burrows I know fights quite often, and even gave Dan Carcillo quite the beating last year. He was also the only player in the league with 30+ points and 150+ penalty minutes. He's the best pest in the league, he works hard, he gets the other team off their game, and he can pot the odd goal. There's nothing not to like about him. Anytime one of your checkers can drive Vinny Lecalvelier so crazy he drops the gloves and takes himself out of the game, you want to keep that guy in your lineup.


While I agree with you that Burrows is an awesome third liner and great value at his current price, I have to disagree with you and everyone else that somehow PIM are a positive statistic. Any idiot can take a penalty. It's crazy the fantasy leagues and people who think someone is "playing hard" because they commit a penalty. Only in hockey is this true. In football you have hell to pay if you take penalties. Is it awesome to foul out in basketball? If committing a penalty is so awesome why does everyone like to be on the power play? I know this sounds elementary, but everyone needs to wake up. If I walked up to someone and punched them can I explain to the judge that I was "playing life harder." Use your own mind, people.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:41 PM

wow 7 pages of flaming, has any one agreed with him yet? i don't feel like reading that much of the same thing.

heres my thought, your right any oe can play pk but very few can play pk as good as bur and kes they are so good AV plays them both on a 5 on 3 instead of 1 fwd and 2 d-men.


oh and a good agitator doesn't fight a lot, their job is to get under the skin of the other teams top players, and try to get them to take bad penalties, fighting is the enforcers job

Edited by edler rocks, 03 October 2008 - 05:44 PM.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:50 PM

I don't think your watching the same guy as the rest of us. The Alex Burrows I know fights quite often, and even gave Dan Carcillo quite the beating last year. He was also the only player in the league with 30+ points and 150+ penalty minutes. He's the best pest in the league, he works hard, he gets the other team off their game, and he can pot the odd goal. There's nothing not to like about him. Anytime one of your checkers can drive Vinny Lecalvelier so crazy he drops the gloves and takes himself out of the game, you want to keep that guy in your lineup.



I don't agree with the OP, and I'm not saying we should get rid of Burrows, but...if you have paid any attention at all to these preseason games, you'd notice we have taken A LOT of penalties. So we should be doing everything possible to stay out of the box...our goalies will only be so good on the PK before the fold when we are taking anywhere from 6-10+ penalties every game. And these damn hooking calls are the worst...it pisses the hell out of me to see people taking hooking penalty after hooking penalty...it isn't rocket science, in the post-lockout NHL, you will not get away with hooking, yet we continue to do it anyways; it's pathetic, and if I was Coach V, I'd be getting really frustrated with people taking the penalties time after time.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:52 PM

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:55 PM

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of Burrows, it's not that he cant fight. He draws penalties because he gets under the skin of the opponents and
THEY are the ones who end up getting the fighting penalty.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:56 PM

didnt even read it, but yes, we want alex burrows! he is good! he does a good job of keeping star players in check and may have a 20 goal year at some point while doing that. Nough said!
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:08 PM

lol

armchair gm's from b.c. that probably never stepped on the ice make me laugh.

Ive watched and played hockey all my life and i know garbage when i see it. It just goes to show how mixed up vancouver canuck fans are when it comes to hockey. most of you should try playing the game before thinking your experts by watching it.


Just because you played up to Midget C and then joined the ASHL doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:26 PM

I know allot of people are going to scorch me for this but I fail to see the reason why nobody questions his ability to play in the nhl. Every game i watch with him in the lineup(all of them) I find myself screaming at the tv because of the stupid stuff the guy does. Personally i'd rather have any of the guys that are fighting for a spot on the team rather than burrows.


...What?

You would rather have Cowan over him?

Everyone's #1 reason they like this guy from what I read on this forum "He's great on the pk. Who cares! Anyone can do this thats fighting for a spot.


Nope.

He can't score


and the likes of brown rypien and cowan can?

Led the team in shorthanded goals last year.

and i'm tired of kesler carrying this guy on his back night after night, I'm tired of him losing the puck, falling down everywhere seriously this guy falls down a hundred times a night can't he skate its ridiculous, stupid penalties its endless. "He plays with grit" is another common description tossed out when his name comes up. That ok sure he pisses off guys but fails to do really be able finish that job off by being able to fight because he can't. IMOP he's an embarrassment to the team. Please Gillis let this guy go keep Krog or Pettinger or Brown whoever. let er rip.


haha
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:28 PM

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:35 PM

lol

armchair gm's from b.c. that probably never stepped on the ice make me laugh.

Ive watched and played hockey all my life and i know garbage when i see it.


And somehow Nonis, AV, Gillis and the whole of Canucks management doesn't?

Yet he is in the NHL and you are not... if he is garbage, what does that make you? :rolleyes:


It just goes to show how mixed up vancouver canuck fans are when it comes to hockey. most of you should try playing the game before thinking your experts by watching it.


and how do you know people reply/commenting on your post hasn't played more hockey than you? Just because people disagree with what you have to say, you are going to conclude that they have an inferior hockey knowledge than you?

Your opinion: Burrows does not belong in the NHL and is garbage.

AV, Nonis, Gillis' opinion: Burrows is likely to make the team and will play a huge role in PK, 5 on 5, and grit.

Conclusion: Clutch > Canucks Management

Damn i think you should apply for a job in the organization. Tell us how it goes, make us CDC users proud.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:37 PM

If Burrows plays on the 4th line this year, he's one of the top 4th liners in the NHL.
30 point capabilities, able to draw penalties, and a top-shelp penalty killer.

This year he is a bargain. Let's see how much money he wants next year, because he may price his way off this hockey team if someone thinks he's worth 2 million dollars.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:51 PM

isnt he close to league minimum?

wait nevermind, our team has 10m free cap space, so that arguement doesnt cut it...

i don't know.. burr has lots of NHL experience now.. i'll list the good and the bad

good
always tries
tries to hit every shift
uses his speed
some nice passes in pre-season so far
good in a shut-down role

bad
falls all over the ice, terrible balance
it seems besides breakaways he has hands of stone
another small forward in a tough division (but i think he's proven himself against tough opponents already)
won't win any fights (and might pull a cooke-turtle too)

so... i don't know. burrows doesnt win you a cup, anyone who thinks that is retarded... but truth be told.. i think if kesler-hansen is a scoring line now, and our 4th is shut-down... maybe burrows SHOULD be on the 4th line (or scratched for a fighter) and have one of our young guys with HANDS stuck with kesler-hansen... burrows is definitly the least-skilled guy on that line now.. imagine what they could do with a true power forward making space for them?
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:54 PM

I know allot of people are going to scorch me for this but I fail to see the reason why nobody questions his ability to play in the nhl. Every game i watch with him in the lineup(all of them) I find myself screaming at the tv because of the stupid stuff the guy does. Personally i'd rather have any of the guys that are fighting for a spot on the team rather than burrows. Everyone's #1 reason they like this guy from what I read on this forum "He's great on the pk. Who cares! Anyone can do this thats fighting for a spot. He can't score and i'm tired of kesler carrying this guy on his back night after night, I'm tired of him losing the puck, falling down everywhere seriously this guy falls down a hundred times a night can't he skate its ridiculous, stupid penalties its endless. "He plays with grit" is another common description tossed out when his name comes up. That ok sure he pisses off guys but fails to do really be able finish that job off by being able to fight because he can't. IMOP he's an embarrassment to the team. Please Gillis let this guy go keep Krog or Pettinger or Brown whoever. let er rip.


He cant score he had a career year last year....... Your a wack job man. Heres an idea stop watching the canucks
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