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#61 Trevor Lundface

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:01 PM

The best part about this is if any other prospect had 10 goals in 15 WHL games, these boards would be all over him or atleast give him praise.

It's too bad the kid has brown skin, it seems to make all the difference
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did you want AV to put the skates on and play for Bieksa? It's actually not a bad idea because he cannot, possibly, be any worse than Bieksa.


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Posted 30 October 2008 - 09:02 PM

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so it's irrelevant if they do well in Junior and it would be just the same if he had 1 goal? I assume most people here would be whining like mad if that were the case, could I then use the "WHL" excuse as well?

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 09:12 PM

this team can't make anybody happy. Yes he hasn't proven anything at all yet. But at the same time everybody on here was saying how Naslund had no confidence and always talked depressed like in interviews and such and he isn't upbeat, and now we sort of have a guy who talks confidence and cockiness (which by the way I like in the player) and he can't win. What makes fans of this team happy?



i never said i wasn't happy. i think its a fine pick. he could turn out to be the complete package, but right now the fact is he isn't. its good to be confident. but as a prospect, its more important to be aware of your strengths and your weaknesses so you know what to work on in order to make the jump to the next level. he doesn't even dominate the whl. he can't afford to be cocky if he wants to make the nhl.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 11:28 PM

The best part about this is if any other prospect had 10 goals in 15 WHL games, these boards would be all over him or atleast give him praise.

It's too bad the kid has brown skin, it seems to make all the difference


Its more that he showed very little at training camp?

Its nice that he puts up points, but we'll see how it translates to the pros.
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 03:49 AM

burrows was undrafted and long story short he is now in our top six forwards

edler was a late pick, and so was hansen. im not sure what mason raymond was.

nothing is impossible. your all retarded.
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 10:17 AM

Its more that he showed very little at training camp?

Its nice that he puts up points, but we'll see how it translates to the pros.


I never said anything about the pros did I?

I wasn't impressed at all with what he did at training camp, and in my opinion he most likely won't make the NHL (thought with good development he could)

However, the numbers he is putting up are almost remarkable...and had another player gone in the 5th round, scored at this rate and was white, people would atleast give the kid some credit.

I find it funny that people actually think because he is brown he won't make it. Vancouver, a place that prides itself on multiculturalism, is becoming more and more like the states.
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did you want AV to put the skates on and play for Bieksa? It's actually not a bad idea because he cannot, possibly, be any worse than Bieksa.


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Posted 31 October 2008 - 12:29 PM

To be fair, it WAS his first training camp. Do you guys honestly believe if you ever got drafted, and went to your first training camp with the team you idolized growing up, that you would not be nervous?

He's lighting it up kind of like how Grabner did when he was in the WHL, all goals and no assists. Next year will be a bigger indicator of how good of a prospect he is.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 05:02 PM

And the year before he pretty much put up all assists, so its very hard to get a read on what kind of player it is.

His numbers are very impressive, puts up about 25% of Seattle's goals.

I sure hope he can keep it up and get some league wide recognition.
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 03:14 PM

To be fair, it WAS his first training camp. Do you guys honestly believe if you ever got drafted, and went to your first training camp with the team you idolized growing up, that you would not be nervous?

He's lighting it up kind of like how Grabner did when he was in the WHL, all goals and no assists. Next year will be a bigger indicator of how good of a prospect he is.


And it's not like Rai was a high pick either, so I don't know how people could draw a conclusion by watching prospect camps...
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 06:24 PM

Don't get too excited, he will never play for the Canucks. He may have a good junior career but remember a guy by the name of Gilbert Brule. So it doesnt mean it will transfer to the NHL level.


you're just saying that beccause he's of east indian decent..racist..
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 08:18 PM

Alfredson, Bure and company turned out to be pretty bad as well.


All of these guys, and a majority of late round gems are from overseas. Canadian major juniour leagues are scouted much more extensively.
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 11:22 PM

you're just saying that beccause he's of east indian decent..racist..


How so?

His example was Gilbert Brule, WHL Mega Star turn mediocre NHL player.

The argument had no race based premises.

If Gilbert Brule was of East Indian decent then you would have a legit complaint.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 01:35 PM

i L O L at all you noobs trying to start fights over nothing. this is hockey and we are talking about his skill.....no one even mentioned the fact that he was indian except the retards that apparantly think everyone is racist. get a life and grow up!

he might be a decent player.....with players like him it could go either way fairly easily. hope he does keep it up though.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 03:50 AM

Hes such a joke though. I remember last training camp when they asked him about what he would bring to the canucks and the nhl and he said he was the complete package, that he could score, fight, skate, do everything well....hahahhaa made me laugh. It's like come on you little female dog, you're not going anywhere at anytime. You will never play for the canucks and is just an arrogant man who I would love to see play in the nhl and get worked over! not to be racist either, but i agree with the whole east-indian bit, as i dont think gms like it as much. Whenever i think of east indian hockey players, i think of arrogance! not being racist as i have nothing against anyone, but thats just my impression from being around the game a lot and having lots of buddies who are east indian. Hes a decent hockey player, but needs to get his head in the game and not let his head get so big. He shouldnt make statements like he does.

Understandable, I'm not an jerk I swear, but you remind of a douche.

Not being a jerk, it's just me impression, that you seem like a guy I would wipe my a$$ with. I have alot of friends that are douches.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 02:43 PM

As i recall, one of the things that people were criticizing him for during training camp was that he is a 1989 birth and therefore should be that much better than those who were born in 1990.

What most people fail to see is that the kid is still 18 (the same age as Cody Hodgson) because he has a late birthday. I can see how one would point out such players as Richie and Gendur scoring big as 20 year old overagers and say that Rai too fits into that box;however, as an 18 year old his stats are actually decent.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 03:22 PM

You will never play for the canucks and is just an arrogant man who I would love to see play in the nhl and get worked over! not to be racist either, but i agree with the whole east-indian bit, as i dont think gms like it as much. Whenever i think of east indian hockey players, i think of arrogance! not being racist as i have nothing against anyone, but thats just my impression from being around the game a lot and having lots of buddies who are east indian.

Man, you are a joke. You can't even write a proper sentence and whether you think so or not, your comments are indeed prejudice. You have prejudged this young man, all East Indian hockey players and all GMs. Go read a book, mix with some people and keep your comments to yourself until you've got something to contribute that isn't filled with ignorance. By the way, how about that American election?
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 05:37 PM

Some of the comments in this thread are so ignorant. Some of you seem to be writing the guy off because of the color of his skin. Don't get me wrong here, i'm not saying he'll make it but I hope he does since he is a Canuck prospect. I hope most of our prospects turn into pros someday.

Also to the guy saying Rai is cocky you need loosen up. Most players are confident. I remember reading an article about Rai and he said that he wants to play for the team that he grew up watching and that he wants more Indo Canadian kids to get into hockey. He's trying his best to be a good role model. Cocky, isn't he? :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 November 2008 - 04:17 PM

so it's irrelevant if they do well in Junior and it would be just the same if he had 1 goal? I assume most people here would be whining like mad if that were the case, could I then use the "WHL" excuse as well?


Im from kamloops and a big blazers fan

Iginla, Tucker, Sydor, neidermier, Doan... 100 more...

Len Barrie had points in Kamloops too. Plenty do in the WHL. Not many make it big in the AHL nevermind the NHL.

10 goals in 15 games is NOTHING SPECIAL.
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Posted 07 November 2008 - 06:20 PM

you're just saying that beccause he's of east indian decent..racist..


You're the one who brought up the fact that he's Indian.. so how is he racist? Did he say "he won't make it because he is brown?" Do you hear yourself? The people who assume things are racist just because someone says that someone of a different skin colour isn't the best player in the world are just like the racists.. all they see is race.

Get over the fact that he's brown. If he doesn't make it, it's because he's either not talented enough or not working hard enough. If he does make it, then good for him. The colour of the skin is irrelevant in the end..
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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:22 PM

The best part about this is if any other prospect had 10 goals in 15 WHL games, these boards would be all over him or atleast give him praise.
It's too bad the kid has brown skin, it seems to make all the difference


I think you might be jumping the gun there. Most CDCers don't know much about the team beyond the regulars, let alone a kid who was drafted 131st overall this year.

If you were to dig through old records, I think you'd find very few threads about Jannik Hansen before he made waves on the Moose in 2006-07. To say that no one is praising him due to his race is, frankly, baseless. I think people on the board just don't really know who he is or what he's up to.

And for the record, I personally think Rai has a very legitimate shot at making the NHL one day. Why not? He's 6'0 190, big enough to play, and he's shown he has some offensive potential. To get a better indication of how he stacks up with Vancouver's other prospects, I think we may have to wait until Canucks camp next fall, after he's had another year of development in the WHL. But best of luck to him in the meantime, and I hope he keeps up the good work.

Edited by Plough Cat, 07 November 2008 - 07:23 PM.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 02:03 PM

Hes such a joke though. I remember last training camp when they asked him about what he would bring to the canucks and the nhl and he said he was the complete package, that he could score, fight, skate, do everything well....hahahhaa made me laugh. It's like come on you little female dog, you're not going anywhere at anytime. You will never play for the canucks and is just an arrogant man who I would love to see play in the nhl and get worked over! not to be racist either, but i agree with the whole east-indian bit, as i dont think gms like it as much. Whenever i think of east indian hockey players, i think of arrogance! not being racist as i have nothing against anyone, but thats just my impression from being around the game a lot and having lots of buddies who are east indian. Hes a decent hockey player, but needs to get his head in the game and not let his head get so big. He shouldnt make statements like he does.



im east indian, and i honestly find that offensive to say the least. just by addding "not being racist" doesnt mean taht you take shot at anyone anytime. its like me going out there and saying all French-canadian hockey players are cowards or sumtin along those lines.
"you're not going anywhere at anytime" you do realize that this kid was drafted by an NHL team he has already done something that you probably havent. If you are not confident in your own abilities how do you expect to step on the ice in front of all the critics and make a name for yourself.
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 02:21 PM

im east indian, and i honestly find that offensive to say the least. just by addding "not being racist" doesnt mean taht you take shot at anyone anytime.


I completely agree, even though I am not east Indian.

That's like saying: "Not being insulting....but... you are an idiot."
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 04:36 PM

Yeah, I don't get why it is ok to be covertly, and sometimes even overtly racist to Indian people on this board.
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 04:45 PM

I really hope he makes it to the big club someday. He will be an instant fan favourite.

I know tons of brown guys who are already talkin about him :D

It's about time a Surrey guy played for the Canucks.
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 06:42 PM

Yeah, I don't get why it is ok to be covertly, and sometimes even overtly racist to Indian people on this board.


Yeah, I don't get why it is ok to be covertly, and sometimes even overtly racist to Russian people on this board.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 11:20 AM

Hahha.

There goes the "he's good in the WHL, therefore he'll be good in the NHL" argument again.

Byron Ritchie scored over 120 points in the WHL.

What did he do in the NHL?

Exactly.


So let's just assume everybody who scores 120 points in the WHL is going to be a bust right off the bat then.

Clearly Rai is a bust. I mean it has been 4 months, so it's quite easy to tell by now.

You guys are idiots.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 07:15 PM

Rai has a long way to go according to Hockey Future some where along the lines of a Matson/Butcher, and people don't talk about Matson/Butcher on this board, all someone wanted to do is bring up the color of a mans skin and that idiot should be banned from CDC.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 01:42 AM

Yeah, I don't get why it is ok to be covertly, and sometimes even overtly racist to Indian people on this board.

That's exactly true. So many people say ridiculous comments.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 12:28 PM

Well he is tied in 9th for goals, ALONG with the emerging star in the draft, Evander Kane.

Where as Evander Kane has lots of support like Zabotel, Blum, Wright, Schira, and not to mention they're in first place with an amazing goaltender Sexsmith.


Where Prab Rai, which has barely no support, other than Jim O' Brien. He is tied with O' Brien in points and has six more goals than him. Not to mention O'Brien is a first round draft pick, where as Prab iss like a fitfh round pick. And also to point out Seattle Thunderbirds defense isn't near as good as the Giants...


On the T Birds they're is only ONE defenseman with a +2 or better. (Thomas Hickey +7)
There are 4 defenseman with a -9.


On the Giants there is one person with a -1 and he has only played 3 games. The rest are better (Jonathan Blum +20), etc.


Do we really have to compare goalies now?

Giant's defense >>>>>> T-Birds defense
Giant's goaltending >>>>>>>>> T-Birds goaltending
Evander Kane's support >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prab Rai's support

I'm just saying, look at the overhype for Kane, and look how fast he's flying up the rankings.

He only has so much points with his support, Rai is still tied with him in goals.

I'm just saying if you swapped Rai with Kane, Rai's point totals would just explode. While Kane would be mediocre at best on a Seatte Thunderbirds team.

And for people saying he's a bust, look at the stats.

And don't pull up the "it's only WHL" argument
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 12:56 PM

Kane has 12 more assists and is 2 years younger
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