[74Hunter74]

CanuckinEdm, on Oct 30 2008, 09:13 AM, said:

Cause he is a complainer though i dont blame him he demanded a trade to get more playing time. And not to sound racist (cause im far from it) its cause hes East Indian its the same reason why players like Hansen and Kopitar slipped a bit they arent from a Hockey country though Rai is Canadian by NHL scouts eyes hes from India.

haha comparing them to Kopitar, that's funny Slipping two or three spots in the FIRST ROUND. Its a far cry than say if Rai slipped from the 1st to the 5th or Hansen was suppose to go in the 1st but slipped to the 9th round.

[dhb]

gmen81, on Oct 30 2008, 05:32 AM, said:

Don't get too excited, he will never play for the Canucks. He may have a good junior career but remember a guy by the name of Gilbert Brule. So it doesnt mean it will transfer to the NHL level.

Everyone stop and admire this gem of logic: Brule gets rushed into the NHL therefore Rai will NEVER play for Canucks.

[GusAdams]

SedinsEdlerLui, on Oct 30 2008, 09:17 AM, said:

Hes such a joke though. I remember last training camp when they asked him about what he would bring to the canucks and the nhl and he said he was the complete package, that he could score, fight, skate, do everything well....hahahhaa made me laugh. It's like come on you little female dog, you're not going anywhere at anytime. You will never play for the canucks and is just an arrogant man who I would love to see play in the nhl and get worked over! not to be racist either, but i agree with the whole east-indian bit, as i dont think gms like it as much. Whenever i think of east indian hockey players, i think of arrogance! not being racist as i have nothing against anyone, but thats just my impression from being around the game a lot and having lots of buddies who are east indian. Hes a decent hockey player, but needs to get his head in the game and not let his head get so big. He shouldnt make statements like he does.

Most of you are too young to remember how arrogant Gretzky was, I know he had the skillz to back it up and by no means am I comparing the 2 but there is also nothing wrong with believing in yourself and having some confidence.

[kingjatt]

gmen81, on Oct 30 2008, 05:32 AM, said:

Don't get too excited, he will never play for the Canucks. He may have a good junior career but remember a guy by the name of Gilbert Brule. So it doesnt mean it will transfer to the NHL level.

Brule can still make the NHL, Columbus just thought they had Sidney Crosby II and forced him in, hes messed up, but not done. And though i like Prabh Rai, he probably WON"T make the NHL, as most players dont, but he looks good for now, and looks like he'll at least get to play in Manitoba in the near future.

[1canuck1]

Awesome, on Oct 30 2008, 06:43 AM, said:

Hahha.

There goes the "he's good in the WHL, therefore he'll be good in the NHL" argument again.

Byron Ritchie scored over 120 points in the WHL.

What did he do in the NHL?

Exactly.

This comparison makes no sense.. i understand that just because someone can score in the WHL doesnt mean they can score in the NHL, but show me 1 player who had a horrible WHL career and an amazing NHL career, and ill show you 10 that had an amazing junior career and lit it up in the NHL

[ballsdeepfreeze]

Canuck4Life est. 1984, on Oct 30 2008, 10:06 AM, said:

Good to know somebody can still post useful things on here. Prab's biggest knock on him is that he isn't that physical and isn't going to get dirty in the corners too much to make plays. With the way the NHL is going it suits his game which is speed and scoring off the rush. I think you can argue either way with him. From watching him develop in the last few years I know that he is focused and has put on some real size ie. Grabner. He trains in the off season with guys like Kyle Turris and Colton Gillies so I think he is going to continue to improve and hopefully have some great training camps the next few years.

THANKS BOYS, THIS IS WHAT I HAD IN MIND FOR RESPONSES ON THIS POST...I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE KID'S GAME IS LIKE, NOT WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL BE THE NEXT SID CROSBY OR CONVERSELY THE NEXT NATHAN SMITH.

Thanks for the 411 and will still check out T-Birds game when they swing out to Saskatoon.

[tmak01]

Awesome, on Oct 30 2008, 07:43 AM, said:

Hahha.

There goes the "he's good in the WHL, therefore he'll be good in the NHL" argument again.

Byron Ritchie scored over 120 points in the WHL.

What did he do in the NHL?

Exactly.

Yea No body makes it from the Juniors to the NHL. All the players that are making the NHL are coming from Russia and other European Countries. Come on body just bcz some players didnt make it big in the NHL doesnt mean others wont. It completly depends on his dedication and how he develops. Remember bure was a 5th rounder and zetterberg was also selected high in the draft.

[CanuckinEdm]

74Hunter74, on Oct 30 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

haha comparing them to Kopitar, that's funny Slipping two or three spots in the FIRST ROUND. Its a far cry than say if Rai slipped from the 1st to the 5th or Hansen was suppose to go in the 1st but slipped to the 9th round.

Arg i knew that they were bad to compare with Rai i was just trying to explain that if ure from a non hockey background you are less likely to be picked. but you better believe that Hansen would have been atleast a 2nd or 3rd rounder if he was swedish and not from Denmark.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Awesome, on Oct 30 2008, 07:43 AM, said:

Hahha.

There goes the "he's good in the WHL, therefore he'll be good in the NHL" argument again.

Byron Ritchie scored over 120 points in the WHL.

What did he do in the NHL?

Exactly.

Byron Ritchie played 324 games in the NHL.

If Prabh Rai plays 300+ NHL games he'll be a very successful 5th round pick by the Canucks.

I think I understand the point you were trying to make, however.

[nanaimo]

Awesome, on Oct 30 2008, 07:43 AM, said:

Hahha.

There goes the "he's good in the WHL, therefore he'll be good in the NHL" argument again.

Byron Ritchie scored over 120 points in the WHL.

What did he do in the NHL?

Exactly.

He signed autographs for an hour once at a Save On Foods. Somehow was still a minus 2 that day...

[74Hunter74]

CanuckinEdm, on Oct 30 2008, 11:03 AM, said:

Arg i knew that they were bad to compare with Rai i was just trying to explain that if ure from a non hockey background you are less likely to be picked. but you better believe that Hansen would have been atleast a 2nd or 3rd rounder if he was swedish and not from Denmark.

Seems to me Hansens 9th round pick doesn't have to do with his nationality, but more of the choice he made. He played junior in Sweden but CHOSE to go back to Denmark so he could play in a mens league and not a junior league. And also maybe to do with the fact he was weak on the puck (especially in a league where he should have been the better player) "Playing against larger and older players in Denmark's senior league was physically demanding, and because of his relatively light physique at the time, he was regularly knocked down by considerably larger defenders"


He then decided to play junior hockey over here at 19. A little too late if you ask me. So if he stuck with the Sweden juniors then came to play in the CHL, then yes maybe he could have been a 2nd rounder.

But in the end it was his decisions and not nationality like somebody mentioned here berefore.

[I_AM_CANUCKIAN]

gmen81, on Oct 30 2008, 05:32 AM, said:

Don't get too excited, he will never play for the Canucks. He may have a good junior career but remember a guy by the name of Gilbert Brule. So it doesnt mean it will transfer to the NHL level.

Thanks for the update.

[g_13]

This is the most stupid follow up to the original post that I have ever seen.
Well what else should we expect its CDC it was a simple question about how the kid is doing, and hes doing great.
All these morons like the guy with the Canucks jerseys in his sig are fools. How can you say hes not going to play in the NHL when he is doing pretty good for himself in the WHL and he is 17 or 18 years old? These next 3 years will give us a better indication if hes going to make it or not. Where was Burrows at the age of 20 not even in the ECHL. People that write off draft picks because they are in the later rounds are dumb and should be slapped.
I honestly don't post on cdc very often and this is the reason why. This board is filled with people who think they are NHL scouts and GM's.

What a waste of my 5 minutes reading this post once again.

This post has been edited by g_13: 30 October 2008 - 11:41 AM

[ballsdeepfreeze]

g_13, on Oct 30 2008, 12:39 PM, said:

This is the most stupid follow to the original post I have ever seen.
Common on CDC it was a simple question about how the kid is doing and hes doing great.
All these morons like the guy with the Canucks jersey sigs are fools. How can you say hes not going to play in the NHL when he is doing pretty good for himself in the WHL and he is 17/18 these next 3 years will give us a better indication if hes going to make it or not. Burrows was not even in the ECHL at this point. People that write off draft picks because they are in the later rounds are dumb and should be slapped.
I honestly don't post on cdc very often and this is the reason why. This board is filled with people who think they are NHL scouts and GM's.

What a waste of my 5 minutes reading this post once again.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

I started the topic and more wanted to know if it would be worth driving 2 hours one way to see this kid play against the Blades in Saskatoon. You seem to know a thing or two at the very least, compared to all these other donkeys, you seen him play live at all this year, would it be worth going to see him?

[CanuckinEdm]

74Hunter74, on Oct 30 2008, 11:36 AM, said:

Seems to me Hansens 9th round pick doesn't have to do with his nationality, but more of the choice he made. He played junior in Sweden but CHOSE to go back to Denmark so he could play in a mens league and not a junior league. And also maybe to do with the fact he was weak on the puck (especially in a league where he should have been the better player) "Playing against larger and older players in Denmark's senior league was physically demanding, and because of his relatively light physique at the time, he was regularly knocked down by considerably larger defenders"


He then decided to play junior hockey over here at 19. A little too late if you ask me. So if he stuck with the Sweden juniors then came to play in the CHL, then yes maybe he could have been a 2nd rounder.

But in the end it was his decisions and not nationality like somebody mentioned here berefore.

I understand what you are saying but i still think that Hansen would have been higher in the draft if he would have been from a hockey country.

[74Hunter74]

g_13, on Oct 30 2008, 11:39 AM, said:

This is the most stupid follow up to the original post that I have ever seen.
Well what else should we expect its CDC it was a simple question about how the kid is doing, and hes doing great.
All these morons like the guy with the Canucks jerseys in his sig are fools. How can you say hes not going to play in the NHL when he is doing pretty good for himself in the WHL and he is 17 or 18 years old? These next 3 years will give us a better indication if hes going to make it or not. Where was Burrows at the age of 20 not even in the ECHL. People that write off draft picks because they are in the later rounds are dumb and should be slapped.
I honestly don't post on cdc very often and this is the reason why. This board is filled with people who think they are NHL scouts and GM's.

What a waste of my 5 minutes reading this post once again.

And Burrows was undrafted, like Rick Rypien. And also wasn't Burrows known more for his ball hockey skills than his actual ice hockey skills. So ya until a few years have passed and Rai gets some professional hockey under his belt, nobody can say 100% he will not be in the NHL.

[74Hunter74]

CanuckinEdm, on Oct 30 2008, 11:44 AM, said:

I understand what you are saying but i still think that Hansen would have been higher in the draft if he would have been from a hockey country.

As I understand what you are trying to say. But he did have the chance to play hockey in a hockey country but chose to go back to Denmark. A choice he made. If he was born into a hockey country then ya, those would have been his only options which would have been better for him. But in the end it was his choice and not a nationality thing.


So I guess we will just have to agree to sort of disagree

This post has been edited by 74Hunter74: 30 October 2008 - 11:51 AM

[g_13]

ballsdeepfreeze, on Oct 30 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

Couldn't have said it better myself!

I started the topic and more wanted to know if it would be worth driving 2 hours one way to see this kid play against the Blades in Saskatoon. You seem to know a thing or two at the very least, compared to all these other donkeys, you seen him play live at all this year, would it be worth going to see him?

I have not seen him play yet, but looking at his numbers it looks like he is doing great. I'm going to make it a point to go see this guy live to see how he plays.

From what I hear he has got a ton of speed with a lot of skill but his downfall, like most kids his age, is his work ethic and desire to play. It will be up to him where he wants to go with his career but he has the tool set to make it.

[g_13]

74Hunter74, on Oct 30 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

As I understand what you are trying to say. But he did have the chance to play hockey in a hockey country but chose to go back to Denmark. A choice he made. If he was born into a hockey country then ya, those would have been his only options which would have been better for him. But in the end it was his choice and not a nationality thing.


So I guess we will just have to agree to sort of disagree

Vanak also dropped down in the draft for the same reason, you are right.

[74Hunter74]

g_13, on Oct 30 2008, 11:53 AM, said:

Vanak also dropped down in the draft for the same reason, you are right.

Thomas Vanek? He was 5th overall by Buffalo.