[Bieksallent03]

I'm just throwing it out there for discussion: Michael Grabner, 14 games in, is on pace to just barely break the 30 goal mark. The bad news is that his overall point production is slightly lower than last year, nevermind where it should be with a year under his belt and him having almost made the team.

Is Grabner simply a slow starter?

Will he be able to earn a spot on the big club next season if his current pace holds steady, or are the chances higher that he'll need significant improvement in order to avoid another year in Manitoba?

Possibly a bust?



I'm a pretty big fan of Grabner, and I'd love to see him shatter everyone's expectations at the NHL level and become the pure goal scorer and finisher this team needs, but based on his current performance, show at training camp, and his pattern from last year, what is the general opinion of him?

[Sanford]

I'm a bit worried to, but maybe if we put him in the nhl... he'll make that push to be more consistent.

[swedish_elite_4_life]

I seem to remember back when he played in the WHL he scored most of his points in the second half of the season. I'm fully expecting him to pick his game up as the season goes on.

[jizzle_06]

he looked pretty good in the preseason with the nucks so i wouldnt worry about it.

[Bieksallent03]

swedish_elite_4_life, on Nov 15 2008, 07:39 PM, said:

I seem to remember back when he played in the WHL he scored most of his points in the second half of the season. I'm fully expecting him to pick his game up as the season goes on.

If he normally always takes a month or two to pick his game up, I'd be glad to hear it. You want players hitting their peak during the end of the season when the playoffs start. Just look at what happened to Ottawa last year with their great start.

[LIGHTS-OUT65]

not too worried with Grabner. slow starters are fine, look at what happened when LUI got his stride...WOW!

[Gnickers87]

Grabner generally scores 60% to 70% of his goals during the 2nd half of the season, the fact he already has 6 puts him on the "Grabner" pace of about 35.

Being a slow starter could be a knock, but I'd rather have a guy that picks it up in the 2nd half rather then the alternative. (one who only appears in the 1st half) Last year of his 22 goals I think most of them were later in the season and it continued into the playoffs where he had 3 goals in 6 games. (5 games?)

This post has been edited by Gnickers87: 15 November 2008 - 08:58 PM

[Entourage205]

If he was a bust i'd cry

[VanCityScout]

aside from Grabner
I'll tell you this

F king Lawrence Nycholat
what a call up that was
that young man ruled the ice surface
if ever in your darkest hour you thing our D guys are injured
Lawrence Nycholat
will come through
this kid is the bomb

Plays defense like a fan favorite
I think Edler is a strong blue liner
but tonight....Nycholat was lighting the way

God bless the scout that pushed for this kids draft number

[Mike27]

VanCityScout, on Nov 15 2008, 11:54 PM, said:

aside from Grabner
I'll tell you this

F king Lawrence Nycholat
what a call up that was
that young man ruled the ice surface
if ever in your darkest hour you thing our D guys are injured
Lawrence Nycholat
will come through
this kid is the bomb

Plays defense like a fan favorite
I think Edler is a strong blue liner
but tonight....Nycholat was lighting the way

God bless the scout that pushed for this kids draft number

Umm, Nycholat was not drafted, by anyone. He was signed by Minnesota Wild as a free agent. He is not exactly a kid, he is 29 years old.

[suomistyler]

VanCityScout, on Nov 15 2008, 08:54 PM, said:

aside from Grabner
I'll tell you this

F king Lawrence Nycholat
what a call up that was
that young man ruled the ice surface
if ever in your darkest hour you thing our D guys are injured
Lawrence Nycholat
will come through
this kid is the bomb

Plays defense like a fan favorite
I think Edler is a strong blue liner
but tonight....Nycholat was lighting the way

God bless the scout that pushed for this kids draft number

lol...you've really done your research......

[VanCityScout]

Mike27, on Nov 15 2008, 11:10 PM, said:

Umm, Nycholat was not drafted, by anyone. He was signed by Minnesota Wild as a free agent. He is not exactly a kid, he is 29 years old.

Doesn't change the fact that he is # 32 in the home blue
with the green and white trim
and me being 43
he's a kid
and the fact that he is awsome
gives Bieksa a little more time to heal
29 years old.... I did not know that

This post has been edited by VanCityScout: 15 November 2008 - 10:32 PM

[VanCityScout]

suomistyler, on Nov 15 2008, 11:27 PM, said:

lol...you've really done your research......

So it fffuu me night I guess?
I can't even believe your a Canuck fan
and if you are
you are a disgrace

but with a name like suomistyler

I'm going to have to let it go
I didn't do any research there "sweetheart" I just took 3 hours out of my life to watch the game

This post has been edited by VanCityScout: 15 November 2008 - 10:42 PM

[Zissou]

VanCityScout, on Nov 15 2008, 10:37 PM, said:

So it fffuu me night I guess?
I can't even believe your a Canuck fan
and if you are
you are a disgrace

but with a name like suomistyler

I'm going to have to let it go
I didn't do any research there "sweetheart" I just took 3 hours out of my life to watch the game

...what does that mean?

and why be so hostile? the guy wasn't really insulting you.

[lfergs]

VanCityScout, on Nov 15 2008, 09:30 PM, said:

Doesn't change the fact that he is # 32 in the home blue
with the green and white trim
and me being 43
he's a kid
and the fact that he is awsome
gives Bieksa a little more time to heal
29 years old.... I did not know that

you're weird

[Entourage205]

VanCityScout, on Nov 15 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

So it fffuu me night I guess?
I can't even believe your a Canuck fan
and if you are
you are a disgrace

but with a name like suomistyler

I'm going to have to let it go
I didn't do any research there "sweetheart" I just took 3 hours out of my life to watch the game

you are weird lol

edit: also you are 43 that is weird too don't you have a family

This post has been edited by Entourage205: 16 November 2008 - 12:41 AM

[Sinistril]

VanCityScout, on Nov 15 2008, 11:30 PM, said:

Doesn't change the fact that he is # 32 in the home blue
with the green and white trim
and me being 43
he's a kid
and the fact that he is awsome
gives Bieksa a little more time to heal
29 years old.... I did not know that

Well he was great in the pre-season too, was actually surprised he didn't make the team as our 6th but it's nice to know we're still deep on D.

[CanuckBreakwater]

Bieksallent03, on Nov 15 2008, 07:36 PM, said:

I'm just throwing it out there for discussion: Michael Grabner, 14 games in, is on pace to just barely break the 30 goal mark. The bad news is that his overall point production is slightly lower than last year, nevermind where it should be with a year under his belt and him having almost made the team.

Is Grabner simply a slow starter?

Will he be able to earn a spot on the big club next season if his current pace holds steady, or are the chances higher that he'll need significant improvement in order to avoid another year in Manitoba?

Possibly a bust?



I'm a pretty big fan of Grabner, and I'd love to see him shatter everyone's expectations at the NHL level and become the pure goal scorer and finisher this team needs, but based on his current performance, show at training camp, and his pattern from last year, what is the general opinion of him?

He didn't survive the first round of cuts.

However, according to Botchford in his archived blog, that move was pre-meditated.

Quote

The truth is the team always had [Grabner] earmarked for Manitoba for another year. It's part of the reason they signed some one for him to play with on Manitoba's No. 1 line - Jason Krog

I'm sure it's been brought up here before. Gillis is asking a lot out of Krog to stay in the AHL another year, though.

This post has been edited by CanuckBreakwater: 16 November 2008 - 01:56 AM

[Entourage205]

CanuckBreakwater, on Nov 16 2008, 12:50 AM, said:

He didn't survive the first round of cuts.

However, according to Botchford in his archived blog, that move was pre-meditated.



I'm sure it's been brought up here before. Gillis is asking a lot out of Krog to stay in the AHL another year, though.

why is that, krog didn't earn a spot on the team this year, simple as that. Success in the AHL doesn't necessarily mean success in the NHL, and Krog is f*ckin old to be a prospect so i prefer him as a call-up

[stawns]

Bieksallent03, on Nov 15 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

I'm just throwing it out there for discussion: Michael Grabner, 14 games in, is on pace to just barely break the 30 goal mark. The bad news is that his overall point production is slightly lower than last year, nevermind where it should be with a year under his belt and him having almost made the team.

Is Grabner simply a slow starter?

Will he be able to earn a spot on the big club next season if his current pace holds steady, or are the chances higher that he'll need significant improvement in order to avoid another year in Manitoba?

Possibly a bust?



I'm a pretty big fan of Grabner, and I'd love to see him shatter everyone's expectations at the NHL level and become the pure goal scorer and finisher this team needs, but based on his current performance, show at training camp, and his pattern from last year, what is the general opinion of him?

he scored 20+ last year. This year he is on pace for 30+...............how is this bad news?