[Jimmy.crack.corn]

The Rangers are pretty screwed right now cap wise... going into next year with uncertainty on how much the cap is going to drop they will be hesitant to throw money around considering the current contracts of:

Gomez - 7.3mil
Drury - 7
Roszival - 5
Redden - 6.5
Naslund - 4
Lundqvist - 6.875

That's a 37 million dollar cap hit in those 6 players.

Compensation rules for the 08-09 season:

Quote

$863,156 or less
None

$863,156 - $1,307,812
3rd round pick

$1,307,812 - $2,615,625
2nd round pick

$2,615,623 - $3,923,437
1st and 3rd round pick

$3,923,437 - $5,231,249
1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick

$5,231,249 - $6,539,062
Two 1st's, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick

$6,539,062 or more
Four 1st round picks

So my proposal, sign Dubinsky to an offersheet for around 2.6 million for a year and let him take over the second line center spot. New York will find it hard to match it, and if they do, there's always Prucha and Zherdev.

[Wonder_Bread]

Jimmy.crack.corn, on Feb 27 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

The Rangers are pretty screwed right now cap wise... going into next year with uncertainty on how much the cap is going to drop they will be hesitant to throw money around considering the current contracts of:

Gomez - 7.3mil
Drury - 7
Roszival - 5
Redden - 6.5
Naslund - 4
Lundqvist - 6.875

That's a 37 million dollar cap hit in those 6 players.

Compensation rules for the 08-09 season:



So my proposal, sign Dubinsky to an offersheet for around 2.6 million for a year and let him take over the second line center spot. New York will find it hard to match it, and if they do, there's always Prucha and Zherdev.

Yeah ilike it I've always wanted to see Dubinsky in a Canucks uniform.

[C.Hodgson]

Sign him for 2.615624 and then we only have to give them a 2nd rounder.

[vancanfan]

The NY Rangers will match any offer sheet for Dubinsky, and it wont even come to that, Sather will get him signed to a new deal probably before then.

[-JohnnyCanuck-]

The Rangers currently have approx. $40.2 invested in 10 players.

If the cap stays the same, they would have to sign 8 players at 2 million each

Giving Dubinsky a 4y/10.46 offer sheet would be reasonable

[Intensity]

-JohnnyCanuck-, on Feb 27 2009, 04:13 PM, said:

The Rangers currently have approx. $40.2 invested in 10 players.

If the cap stays the same, they would have to sign 8 players at 2 million each

Giving Dubinsky a 4y/10.46 offer sheet would be reasonable

What he said

[Wildcarder]

Always wanted to see Dubinksy here. I posted pretty much the exact same idea earlier this season. Wonder if I can find the thread....

Edit: Found it, http://forum.canucks...amp;hl=Dubinsky

This post has been edited by Wildcarder: 27 February 2009 - 05:19 PM

[ERIK]

grabner and a 1st is overpayment in my opinion

he is a good player but we do have a promising prospect centerman in hodgson so as much as id like to see him here, i hate to think of giving up grabner and a 1st thats too much to me anyways

[Jimmy.crack.corn]

ERIK, on Feb 27 2009, 04:24 PM, said:

grabner and a 1st is overpayment in my opinion

he is a good player but we do have a promising prospect centerman in hodgson so as much as id like to see him here, i hate to think of giving up grabner and a 1st thats too much to me anyways

Where did you get Grabner and a 1st from????

Anyways, I'd be willing to move into the next compensation tier and give them a first rounder as well. Maybe a 3.5 million offer if that's what it takes. Any more than that and I wouldn't do it.

[RO8!!]

Jimmy.crack.corn, on Feb 28 2009, 11:28 AM, said:

Where did you get Grabner and a 1st from????

Anyways, I'd be willing to move into the next compensation tier and give them a first rounder as well. Maybe a 3.5 million offer if that's what it takes. Any more than that and I wouldn't do it.

From Wildcarder's old thread. But yeah poaching Dubinsky via waivers is actualy a pretty good idea.

This post has been edited by RO8!!: 28 February 2009 - 12:43 PM

[Jimmy.crack.corn]

Well... the core of our team is still going to be generally intact going into next season so I'd like to think that we're going to be in the playoffs again next year.

So our first rounder will be at the best 16th overall and then 46th and 76th. IMO Dubinsky is going to be a very good player. So depending on what kind of players are avaliable next year it would be a good risk if you ask me.

For example would you rather have Dubinsky? Or... White, Ellignton, and whoever our third rounder was in 07?

Just using the '07 draft as an example because we had a higher pick at 25th overall.

This post has been edited by Jimmy.crack.corn: 28 February 2009 - 12:49 PM

[JohnTavares]

We don't have a 2nd round pick in 10'.

[Thomas Gradin]

I would love to see Dubinsky here. However, I wouldn't want to give up a first for him. And I think the Rangers would try to find a way to match any offer bellow 3.5 million.

I have a feeling one of their big contracts will be moved/bought out. Roszival and/or Gomez will be moved in the off-season are my guesses.

[Jimmy.crack.corn]

loose lips, on Feb 28 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

I would love to see Dubinsky here. However, I wouldn't want to give up a first for him. And I think the Rangers would try to find a way to match any offer bellow 3.5 million.

I have a feeling one of their big contracts will be moved/bought out. Roszival and/or Gomez will be moved in the off-season are my guesses.

Nobody will even want to come anywhere near Gomez.

Someone will probably take Roszival, but there's not many teams out there that can afford him.

[ninja321]

I'd sign him where we only give a 2nd round pick

[shazzam]

lol nyr is so fail with those contracts

some teams will take advantage

[Thomas Gradin]

Jimmy.crack.corn, on Feb 28 2009, 12:10 PM, said:

Nobody will even want to come anywhere near Gomez.

Someone will probably take Roszival, but there's not many teams out there that can afford him.

You can't see CBJs taking Gomez?

No FA wants to go there, so they're going to have to overpay and they now it, and Gomez would finally solidify their top 6 as a playoff team rather than a fringe team.

Gomez has producing the same as pretty much every other season he's played, his salary, which isn't his fault, is just too high.

Columbus' new top 9:

Nash - Brassard - Voracek
Umberger - Gomez - Huselius
Torres - Malhotra/Peca - Williams

Modin + 2nd for Gomez.

[shazzam]

loose lips, on Feb 28 2009, 12:15 PM, said:

You can't see CBJs taking Gomez?

No FA wants to go there, so they're going to have to overpay and they now it, and Gomez would finally solidify their top 6 as a playoff team rather than a fringe team.

Gomez has producing the same as pretty much every other season he's played, his salary, which isn't his fault, is just too high.

Columbus' new top 9:

Nash - Brassard - Voracek
Umberger - Gomez - Huselius
Torres - Malhotra/Peca - Williams

Modin + 2nd for Gomez.

i can see that happening if NYR overpaying them with draftpicks or prospects

[Jimmy.crack.corn]

loose lips, on Feb 28 2009, 12:15 PM, said:

You can't see CBJs taking Gomez?

No FA wants to go there, so they're going to have to overpay and they now it, and Gomez would finally solidify their top 6 as a playoff team rather than a fringe team.

Gomez has producing the same as pretty much every other season he's played, his salary, which isn't his fault, is just too high.

Columbus' new top 9:

Nash - Brassard - Voracek
Umberger - Gomez - Huselius
Torres - Malhotra/Peca - Williams

Modin + 2nd for Gomez.

Gomez's contract lasts another 5 years after this.

Do you really think an arguable non-hockey market is going to want to take him? We have no idea what's going to happen with the economy so I really doubt Columbus is willing to take on even more salary right now.

[Razorghost]

If all that was coming back to the Rangers was a 2nd R pick that would be easily matched as well as 1st and 3rd R pick.

You would have to do the 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks for this to happen! Would that be worth it? ....I don't know maybe not.