[chickenman92]

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
4- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
5- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
6- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
7- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
8- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
9- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
12- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
13- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND
16- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR
18- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
19- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
20- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
21- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
22- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
24- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON
28- DREW SHORE USA U-18
29- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
30- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
31- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
32- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN
34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO
36- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
37- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON
39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU
40- ANTON RODIN BRYNAS JR
41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY
42- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
43- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT
45- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON
47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN
48- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
49- TONI RAJALA ILVES
50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON
51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE
52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT
53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18
54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE
55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN
56- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18
58- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN
62- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH
64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS
65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER
66- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH
69- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
70- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
71- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
72- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
73- HENRIK THEGEL BRYNAS JR
74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE
75- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
76- ERIK HAULA SHAT.ST.MARY'S
77- ANTON MYLLARI VASTERAS
78- GARRETT MITCHELL REGINA
79- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
80- BRANDON KOZUN CALGARY
81- JEAN PHILIPPE MATHIEU PEI
82- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
83- JEAN-FRANCOIS BERUBE MONTREAL
84- MICHEAL FINE SAULT STE. MARIE
85- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
86- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
87- CASEY CIZIKAS MISSISSAUGA ST. MIC
88- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
89- JAKOB SILFVERBERG BRYNAS
90- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
91- NIKITA DVURECHENSKY DYNAMO 2
92- GARRETT WILSON OWEN SOUND
93- PATRIK CEHLIN DJURGARDEN JR
94- BRETT PONICH PORTLAND
95- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
96- HAMPUS GUSTAFSSON MALMO JR
97- ANDERS LEE EDINA HIGH
98- BRANDON PIRRI GEORGETOWN
99- EDDIE LACK LEKSAND
100- ANDREI KUCHIN CHEHOV 2

that's my top 100, what do you guys think?

[DownUndaCanuck]

i think chickenman has too much time on his hands.

[Mikael Samuelsson]

So i guess Richard Panik is as good as ours

[Goats Gruff]

And you did all this during the night?

Shouldn't you be sleeping? I'm just going to work now!

I can't believe you'd look up everyone in the top 100 and you posted this at 5 AM

[BritishNuck]

Oh gosh, if Ryan Ellis is still around at the bottom of the 1st round....

[Brockolopolis]

JoeyF, on Mar 14 2009, 08:38 AM, said:

Oh gosh, if Ryan Ellis is still around at the bottom of the 1st round....

Yeah! That'd be unreal!

[InfiniteCanuck]

Ryan Ellis...

We would likely have to trade up for him. Every scout and GM in the leauge knows what this kid did at the world juniors. No way hes going past 15th.

[ilikecanucks]

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
4- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
5- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
6- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
7- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
8- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
9- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
12- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
13- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND - not the 15th best prospect, not even the best goalie
16- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR - looks about right, he should not be a top 10 pick
18- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
19- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
20- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
21- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
22- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
24- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON - moving up, not yet a 1st rounder
28- DREW SHORE USA U-18
29- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
30- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
31- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
32- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN - not the best defenseman on his junior team, I'd rather have Roussel
34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO - you thing he drops that far?
36- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
37- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON - good size, not a 2nd rounder, solid third rounder though
39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU - you got a scouting report for him? dont know much.
40- ANTON RODIN BRYNAS JR
41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY- see Doherty, think he would be better suited to go near the end of round 2
42- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
43- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT - I dont know what you see in this kid, (nice 1st name)...he is a 4th rounder
45- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON - again what do you see here, not a 2nd rounder
47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN - i got him going 1 spot higher lol
48- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
49- TONI RAJALA ILVES
50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON - havent seen enough, looks again like a solid 3rd
51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE - a steal at 51
52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT - what a year for this kid, i dont know about a mid 2nd though
53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18 - got him going in the 1st
54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE- 1st round potential
55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN - i love this kid, big strong, skates, hits, good shot
56- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18 - dont know much, you got a scouting report?
58- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN - he probably goes 2nd round
62- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH - super high on this guy, i think he isnt far off kassian, love for the 'nucks to get him
64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS - got him going 66 haha
65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER - you hate this guy dont you chickenman
66- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH - again, this guy should be about ~10-15 spots higher
69- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
70- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
71- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
72- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
73- HENRIK THEGEL BRYNAS JR
74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE - this kid is my sleeper, can really skate
75- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
76- ERIK HAULA SHAT.ST.MARY'S
77- ANTON MYLLARI VASTERAS
78- GARRETT MITCHELL REGINA
79- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
80- BRANDON KOZUN CALGARY
81- JEAN PHILIPPE MATHIEU PEI
82- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
83- JEAN-FRANCOIS BERUBE MONTREAL
84- MICHEAL FINE SAULT STE. MARIE
85- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
86- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
87- CASEY CIZIKAS MISSISSAUGA ST. MIC
88- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
89- JAKOB SILFVERBERG BRYNAS
90- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
91- NIKITA DVURECHENSKY DYNAMO 2
92- GARRETT WILSON OWEN SOUND
93- PATRIK CEHLIN DJURGARDEN JR
94- BRETT PONICH PORTLAND
95- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
96- HAMPUS GUSTAFSSON MALMO JR
97- ANDERS LEE EDINA HIGH
98- BRANDON PIRRI GEORGETOWN
99- EDDIE LACK LEKSAND
100- ANDREI KUCHIN CHEHOV 2

I wont profess to be an expert, expecially on from the 60-100 range, but we have quite a few similarities, but also a lot of differences. I'll post my top 75 at some point today.

[ilikecanucks]

InfiniteCanuck, on Mar 14 2009, 10:31 AM, said:

Ryan Ellis...

We would likely have to trade up for him. Every scout and GM in the leauge knows what this kid did at the world juniors. No way hes going past 15th.

do you remember what Nolan Baumgartner did at the world juniors?

World Junior success does not make great NHLers!

I'm not writing off his ability and potential, but I really dont think its a stretch to see this guy be an AHL star. At 5'10" you have to be able to skate......he aint Kris Russell!

[Verloren]

If Moore drops that low, I'd rather take him in the 1st.

[Champions of Nothing]

Elliot is too low.

[DJ Kreuzberg]

Goats Gruff, on Mar 14 2009, 07:17 AM, said:

And you did all this during the night?

Shouldn't you be sleeping? I'm just going to work now!

I can't believe you'd look up everyone in the top 100 and you posted this at 5 AM

I don't understand why you or Downunda have to harp on him for this. Chicken does has done this the past few months so it should not be hard to do another. Its just shifting people up and down the list based on how he thinks they are performing currently. I like Chicken, i think he is one of the few people on this board that actually follows prospects and has a fairly solid opinion on them.

On Ellis, i agree with ilikecanucks. He is a high-risk prospect with high offensive capabilities. Yes, he was amazing in the WJC and is in top10 scoring in the ohl, but there has to be some question to whether this can translate to playing with top players in the NHL. He is 5'10 and not very strong/physical. Can he defend against the likes of Getzlaf, Carter, or Iginla? Or would his top potential be a bottom 2 pairing with minimal minutes but almost all of those minutes would be on the PP?

Even if he dropped to Canuck's current position, i think there are better D available in this draft that would fit better with our current D. Think of Rundblad, Despres, Kulikov, OEL, De Haan, Elliot, Moore, or even Erixon. Ellis would be the smallest player on our team and definitely on our D where everyone is over 6'3 minus Bieksa. Pretty much think of Wellwood as our defenseman, as they are the same size. Too much risk, i think for a first round pick especially in this draft.

[chickenman92]

SUFI44, on Mar 14 2009, 08:10 AM, said:

So i guess Richard Panik is as good as ours

got my fingers crossed we can get him in the 2nd

[chickenman92]

JoeyF, on Mar 14 2009, 09:38 AM, said:

Oh gosh, if Ryan Ellis is still around at the bottom of the 1st round....

imo ellis is fairly close to someone like cory murphy in tb, he'll look great on the pp but even strenght we won't want him out there more then 10-12 min a game, just too small for me. he will be a excellent pp guy

[chickenman92]

ilikecanucks, on Mar 14 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND - not the 15th best prospect, not even the best goalie
17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR - looks about right, he should not be a top 10 pick
27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON - moving up, not yet a 1st rounder
33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN - not the best defenseman on his junior team, I'd rather have Roussel
35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO - you thing he drops that far?
38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON - good size, not a 2nd rounder, solid third rounder though
39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU - you got a scouting report for him? dont know much.
41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY- see Doherty, think he would be better suited to go near the end of round 2
44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT - I dont know what you see in this kid, (nice 1st name)...he is a 4th rounder
46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON - again what do you see here, not a 2nd rounder
47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN - i got him going 1 spot higher lol
50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON - havent seen enough, looks again like a solid 3rd
51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE - a steal at 51
52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT - what a year for this kid, i dont know about a mid 2nd though
53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18 - got him going in the 1st
54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE- 1st round potential
55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN - i love this kid, big strong, skates, hits, good shot
57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18 - dont know much, you got a scouting report?
61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN - he probably goes 2nd round
63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH - super high on this guy, i think he isnt far off kassian, love for the 'nucks to get him
64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS - got him going 66 haha
65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER - you hate this guy dont you chickenman
68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH - again, this guy should be about ~10-15 spots higher
74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE - this kid is my sleeper, can really skate

15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND - imo he's got a great head on his shoulder and that is so important to a goalie, big and athletic too, has good #'s dispite playing on a so/so team, hard worker too. the only goalie in the draft i am 100% confident he will be a starter

17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR - he good but small that knocks him to the middle of the 1st, so much skill though

27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON - reminds me a lot of kesler, good size,very fast and drives guys nuts by always finishing checks

33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN - real smart player who seems to always make the right play, needs to fill out a bit

35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO - got this feeling he'll be a flop

38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON - great size and an even better skater, not as offensive as myers last year but twice as mean

39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU - smaller fast guy with a great shot, imo could be this drafts eberle/ennis, 45 goals this year and nominated for scholastic player of the year

41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY- big strong and a good skater, offensive upside

44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT - what i see is a kid from a good program who works hard, has a good shot and good speed. the kid is pretty skinny but still out muscles guys for the puck when he grows up look out.

46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON - seen him 3 time this year and maybe those were his 3 best games but got a lot of the things i look for in a D, size good skater, gets the puck up ice, finishes his checks, and is a little mean in front of him net. doesn't take dumb penalties either

47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN - size worries me a bit but has speed, and competes hard, looks to be a clutch type guy too

50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON - another kid tha in solid and good at everything, has great leader ship and is also a real smart kid

51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE - i'd like to have hima tad higher but his skating worries me

52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT - home town kid who has skill, works hard and will take on any roll he has to for the good of the team, his size though puts him to get drafted 3rd/4th rd imo. he could turn into a mark rechii/doug weight type guy

53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18 -getting booted from your team drops him 30 spots imo

54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE- doesn't stand out to me, and the inteview i heard didn't really blow me away

55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN - big strong, skates, hits, good shot, wanted to have him a bit high but like the others a tad better

57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18 - born in utah to czech parents i think, 6"2 good skater who was dominent for the usa in the 5 nations. good kid with size and skil, whats not to like

61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN - good kid who works hard, makes the easy smart play

63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH - big power forward type with good hands decent skater, not sure on his upside but i can see him fitting in on someones 3/4 line

64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS - hard worker who can score but is an awful skater 3/4 liner one day maybe

65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER - don't hate him just don't see the hype in him, he has all the tools to be a good one except he just can't read the play good at all, his size, shot skating and skill are as good as any D though so he could be a steal. think luc bourdon with no hockey sense at all

68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH - solid 3/4 line guy could use some work on his skating, might be a 2nd line guy one day if he does that.

74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE - your right the kid is a great skater but thats all i really see in him, avg skill, size and hockey sense

[ilikecanucks]

Here is my list to 90.

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
4- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
5- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
6- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
7- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
8- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
9- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
12- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
13- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
14- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
15- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR
16- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
17- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
18- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO
19- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
20- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
21- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
22- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
23- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
24- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- DREW SHORE USA U-18
27- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18
28- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
29- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
30- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
31- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
32- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
33- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE
34- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
35- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
36- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON
37- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
38- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
39- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN
40- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND
41- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN
42- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE
43- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
44- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
45- TONI RAJALA ILVES
46- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN
47- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
48- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN
49- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH
50- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER
51- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH
52- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE
53- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
54- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
55- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
56- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
57- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY
58- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON
61- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
62- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
63- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
64- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
65- JOSH BIRKHOLZ FARGO
66- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS
67- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
68- JESSE BLACKER WINDSOR
69- RYAN BOURQUE USA U-18
70- DAVID GILBERT QUEBEC
71- ERIK HAULA SHAT ST MARY
72- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT
73- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
74- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
75- TOMAS VINCOUR EDMONTON
76- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON
77- JERRY D'AMICO USA U-18
78- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
79- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
80- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
81- BRENDAN REMPEL USA U-18
82- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
83- DAVID VALEK USA U-18
84- BRENDAN DILLON SEATTLE
85- KENNY RYAN USA U-18
86- ALEXANDER FALLSTROM SHAT.ST.MARY'S
87- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
88- WILLIE COETZEE RED DEER
89- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
90- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON


Some of your guys I like, just not as high as you have them ie, Valek, Vey, Tochkin, Savard, Melnychuk. And I wont pretend to have read or seen anything on other guys.

Valek's performance at the Five Nations looks good too.

Where did you find that Palmieri was booted off his team?

2 guys whose stats jump out at me on the USA U-18 team are Kenny Ryan 2nd on team in goals, none of them are on the power play, and Jerry D'Amico similar stats and size to Palmieri, probably not as fast but bigger body.

[chickenman92]

ilikecanucks, on Mar 15 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

Some of your guys I like, just not as high as you have them ie, Valek, Vey, Tochkin, Savard, Melnychuk. And I wont pretend to have read or seen anything on other guys.

Valek's performance at the Five Nations looks good too.

Where did you find that Palmieri was booted off his team?

2 guys whose stats jump out at me on the USA U-18 team are Kenny Ryan 2nd on team in goals, none of them are on the power play, and Jerry D'Amico similar stats and size to Palmieri, probably not as fast but bigger body.

the palmieri story was on hockeysfuture a week or 2 ago, no ones saying he got the boot but a few of those kids have been in trouble this year and maybe the coach had enough, maxwell got demoted and couple u-17 guys got suspended and palmieri got kicked out. no one is saying much about the whole thing. usa has no coment on it and palmieri's dad said his son made a couple very bad choices and there trying to move on, he will be going to notre dame next year unless notre dame changes coaches or the nhl team that picks him wants him in the chl.

[chickenman92]

ilikecanucks, on Mar 15 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

Here is my list to 90.

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
4- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
5- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
6- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
7- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
8- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
9- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
12- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
13- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
14- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
15- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR
16- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
17- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
18- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO
19- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
20- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
21- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
22- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
23- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
24- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- DREW SHORE USA U-18
27- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18
28- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
29- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
30- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
31- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
32- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
33- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE
34- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
35- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
36- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON
37- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
38- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
39- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN
40- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND
41- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN
42- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE
43- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
44- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
45- TONI RAJALA ILVES
46- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN
47- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
48- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN
49- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH
50- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER
51- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH
52- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE
53- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
54- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
55- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
56- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
57- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY
58- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON
61- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
62- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
63- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
64- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
65- JOSH BIRKHOLZ FARGO
66- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS
67- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
68- JESSE BLACKER WINDSOR
69- RYAN BOURQUE USA U-18
70- DAVID GILBERT QUEBEC
71- ERIK HAULA SHAT ST MARY
72- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT
73- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
74- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
75- TOMAS VINCOUR EDMONTON
76- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON
77- JERRY D'AMICO USA U-18
78- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
79- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
80- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
81- BRENDAN REMPEL USA U-18
82- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
83- DAVID VALEK USA U-18
84- BRENDAN DILLON SEATTLE
85- KENNY RYAN USA U-18
86- ALEXANDER FALLSTROM SHAT.ST.MARY'S
87- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
88- WILLIE COETZEE RED DEER
89- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
90- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON


Some of your guys I like, just not as high as you have them ie, Valek, Vey, Tochkin, Savard, Melnychuk. And I wont pretend to have read or seen anything on other guys.

Valek's performance at the Five Nations looks good too.

Where did you find that Palmieri was booted off his team?

2 guys whose stats jump out at me on the USA U-18 team are Kenny Ryan 2nd on team in goals, none of them are on the power play, and Jerry D'Amico similar stats and size to Palmieri, probably not as fast but bigger body.

no garrett mitchell? i know he doesn't have a whole lot of talent but the kid works harder then anyone in the draft, is a good skater, will fight, was a solid grinder for the u-18 team and got 4 pts in 4 games there. imo will be a solid 4th line guy

[ilikecanucks]

chickenman92, on Mar 16 2009, 07:05 AM, said:

no garrett mitchell? i know he doesn't have a whole lot of talent but the kid works harder then anyone in the draft, is a good skater, will fight, was a solid grinder for the u-18 team and got 4 pts in 4 games there. imo will be a solid 4th line guy

Yeah, I havent seen enough of Garrett Mitchell to put him my top 3 rounds. 4th rounders can be picked up in later rounds, I am thinking the potential of the other guys is a bit better.

I read through those posts on Hockeysfuture discussing the US NTDP. Very interesting, especially if you are a fan of the OHL (Kitchener and Windsor). Its sounds like the entire program has issues not just the select view with disciplinary issues.

Palmieri still has 1st round talent, and since the reasons arent being aired, I have to believe in the player. Their seems to be a lot of disfunction in the program right now....which may lead to a lot of their talent heading North.


Kenny Ryan's numbers definately have me thinking.

[Thomas Gradin]

Some players I might disagree with:

3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER - This guy will go after Duchene and Paajarvi-Svensson. I'd rank him 5th.

11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA - He'll go in the top 10, especially after his WJC performance, he'll definitely be picked above Glennie.

14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE - He might drop this low, but remember he's in North America, so he'll probably stay in the top 12.

23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER - Might get overhyped and picked in the top 20 because of his name/bloodlines. But then again, 23 is already pretty early for him.

34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON - Late second round.. .905 save percentage...

38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON - About right I guess, could see him going in the 40s though.

67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA - This guy will go in the 40s, early 50s at the latest. No way he drops down to the third round.