[ilikecanucks]

Thomas Gradin, on Mar 18 2009, 12:12 PM, said:

Some players I might disagree with:

3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER - This guy will go after Duchene and Paajarvi-Svensson. I'd rank him 5th.
I have him 5th too, but if you are the Lightning I dont think you could say no to a future combo of Stamkos-Kane
11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA - He'll go in the top 10, especially after his WJC performance, he'll definitely be picked above Glennie.
I cant see Kadri going before him either.

14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE - He might drop this low, but remember he's in North America, so he'll probably stay in the top 12.
Should be the 3rd dman drafted

23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER - Might get overhyped and picked in the top 20 because of his name/bloodlines. But then again, 23 is already pretty early for him.
Yeah I have Landon in a similar spot....but the kid can flat out fly, and can score.....i could see him going ahead of Kassian and Holland based on his goal scoring ability.
34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON - Late second round.. .905 save percentage...
Goalies are hard to figure....2nd round is 2nd round

38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON - About right I guess, could see him going in the 40s though.
his size is appealing, but he isnt a 2nd round talent....I have him going 60th, but I could see the Isles grabbing him with their 2nd 2nd rouder. Chara 2.0.....they wont trade him away this time...or will they

67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA - This guy will go in the 40s, early 50s at the latest. No way he drops down to the third round.
I am of the same opinion as you 45 - 55 range.

[chickenman92]

Thomas Gradin, on Mar 18 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Some players I might disagree with:

3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER - This guy will go after Duchene and Paajarvi-Svensson. I'd rank him 5th.

11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA - He'll go in the top 10, especially after his WJC performance, he'll definitely be picked above Glennie.

14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE - He might drop this low, but remember he's in North America, so he'll probably stay in the top 12.

23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER - Might get overhyped and picked in the top 20 because of his name/bloodlines. But then again, 23 is already pretty early for him.

34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON - Late second round.. .905 save percentage...

38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON - About right I guess, could see him going in the 40s though.

67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA - This guy will go in the 40s, early 50s at the latest. No way he drops down to the third round.

i rank players based on how good i think they are not where i see them going in the draft. yes i know kane will end up going 5th or 6th but if i'm picking for a team in the 3 spot i take him. with barrie he may go higher but i would not take him unless the 66 players ahead of him are gone

[Thomas Gradin]

chickenman92, on Mar 18 2009, 12:43 PM, said:

yes i know kane will end up going 5th or 6th but if i'm picking for a team in the 3 spot i take him.

where's the sense in that?

[chickenman92]

Thomas Gradin, on Mar 18 2009, 01:53 PM, said:

where's the sense in that?

because thats how nhl teams do it.

as far as i know nhl teams will make up a top 100 list then figure out how they can get as many on that list as possible

This post has been edited by chickenman92: 18 March 2009 - 03:06 PM

[Thomas Gradin]

chickenman92, on Mar 18 2009, 12:43 PM, said:

i rank players based on how good i think they are not where i see them going in the draft.

chickenman92, on Mar 18 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

because thats how nhl teams do it.

as far as i know nhl teams will make up a top 100 list then figure out how they can get as many on that list as possible

??? Then wouldn't ranking them on how good they are be the same as where they would go in the draft.

[Verloren]

Thomas Gradin, on Mar 18 2009, 03:08 PM, said:

??? Then wouldn't ranking them on how good they are be the same as where they would go in the draft.

Not really. Some teams look for one thing over another eg MG and his character spiel.

Others look for a player who can step in immediately to help out.

[ilikecanucks]

Verloren, on Mar 18 2009, 03:40 PM, said:

Not really. Some teams look for one thing over another eg MG and his character spiel.

Others look for a player who can step in immediately to help out.

Mg's character spiel is taken out of context....he still wants talent.....If there are 2 comparable talents and one has a higher character he gets drafted.

Some on here think it means, they are going to go off the board to select a character over talent. I dont think that is the case.

[Nazzy_Bert_19_44]

We should snag Ferraro just to piss of Ray. God I hate him, and he hates the canucks.

[ilikecanucks]

Nazzy_Bert_19_44, on Mar 19 2009, 10:56 AM, said:

We should snag Ferraro just to piss of Ray. God I hate him, and he hates the canucks.

Is it documented that he hates the canucks?

He is the TEam 1040 all the time, I dont see any hate for them there, or on TSN.

When he did oilers games a couple years ago, he had to be a homer for the Oil, he was there colour guy.

I think he is a pretty good colour guy, but I think Im one of the only ones on CDC who feels this way.


Landon Ferraro is a talented, fast skating goal scorer.....We could use him, but we have other holes to fill first, we already have Grabner and Raymond in the system.

[Champions of Nothing]

I like Ray Ferraro.

[LU1NGO]

I think if TB lands on Kane they will pass up on him.

[bobbyylu]

chickenman92, on Mar 14 2009, 06:03 AM, said:

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
4- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
5- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
6- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
7- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
8- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
9- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
12- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
13- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND
16- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR
18- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
19- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
20- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
21- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
22- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
24- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON
28- DREW SHORE USA U-18
29- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
30- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
31- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
32- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN
34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO
36- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
37- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON
39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU
40- ANTON RODIN BRYNAS JR
41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY
42- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
43- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT
45- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON
47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN
48- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
49- TONI RAJALA ILVES
50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON
51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE
52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT
53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18
54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE
55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN
56- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18
58- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN
62- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH
64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS
65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER
66- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH
69- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
70- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
71- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
72- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
73- HENRIK THEGEL BRYNAS JR
74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE
75- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
76- ERIK HAULA SHAT.ST.MARY'S
77- ANTON MYLLARI VASTERAS
78- GARRETT MITCHELL REGINA
79- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
80- BRANDON KOZUN CALGARY
81- JEAN PHILIPPE MATHIEU PEI
82- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
83- JEAN-FRANCOIS BERUBE MONTREAL
84- MICHEAL FINE SAULT STE. MARIE
85- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
86- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
87- CASEY CIZIKAS MISSISSAUGA ST. MIC
88- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
89- JAKOB SILFVERBERG BRYNAS
90- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
91- NIKITA DVURECHENSKY DYNAMO 2
92- GARRETT WILSON OWEN SOUND
93- PATRIK CEHLIN DJURGARDEN JR
94- BRETT PONICH PORTLAND
95- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
96- HAMPUS GUSTAFSSON MALMO JR
97- ANDERS LEE EDINA HIGH
98- BRANDON PIRRI GEORGETOWN
99- EDDIE LACK LEKSAND
100- ANDREI KUCHIN CHEHOV 2

that's my top 100, what do you guys think?

wow my eyes hurt now LOL

But I do think taylor doherty will go in the 1st round,Hell depending how could we finish I think MG should look at him

[ilikecanucks]

bobbyylu, on Mar 22 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

wow my eyes hurt now LOL

But I do think taylor doherty will go in the 1st round,Hell depending how could we finish I think MG should look at him

TAYLOR DOHERTY IS NOT A 1ST ROUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is not Tyler Myers, He is not Zdeno Chara!

Just because he is 6'8" doesnt make him either of these guys.

He is a marginal 2nd rounder!

[I3âsîlîsK]

Can Doherty skate like Myers? No. Can Doherty dominate like chara and play in front of the net on a PP? NO> DOHERTY WILL NOT BE PICKED IN THE FIRST ROUND!

[bobbyylu]

ilikecanucks, on Mar 22 2009, 11:14 AM, said:

TAYLOR DOHERTY IS NOT A 1ST ROUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is not Tyler Myers, He is not Zdeno Chara!

Just because he is 6'8" doesnt make him either of these guys.

He is a marginal 2nd rounder!

easy easy

he actually was rated alot better then slid down to the 2nd round rating

I am not sure how much you know hockey but there is a guy name chara ya u may have heard of him 56th overall 3rd round

with our first round pick we took josh holden

just chew on that for a bit

[ilikecanucks]

Nazzy_Bert_19_44, on Mar 19 2009, 10:56 AM, said:

We should snag Ferraro just to piss of Ray. God I hate him, and he hates the canucks.

Ray grew up cheering for the Canucks as a BC boy.

One of his regrets was that he never played for the Canucks.

I heard this the other day on the TEAM, considering he works there I dont think its made up. He is an analyst, and must be impartial.


Interesting also to see how the top 100 lists change from month to month.

My top 90 has changed a lot.

[lilgordo]

chickenman92, on Mar 14 2009, 06:03 AM, said:

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
4- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
5- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
6- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
7- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
8- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
9- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
12- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
13- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND
16- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR
18- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
19- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
20- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
21- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
22- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
24- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON
28- DREW SHORE USA U-18
29- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
30- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
31- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
32- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN
34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO
36- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
37- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON
39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU
40- ANTON RODIN BRYNAS JR
41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY
42- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
43- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT
45- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON
47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN
48- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
49- TONI RAJALA ILVES
50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON
51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE
52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT
53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18
54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE
55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN
56- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18
58- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN
62- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH
64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS
65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER
66- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH
69- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
70- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
71- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
72- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
73- HENRIK THEGEL BRYNAS JR
74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE
75- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
76- ERIK HAULA SHAT.ST.MARY'S
77- ANTON MYLLARI VASTERAS
78- GARRETT MITCHELL REGINA
79- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
80- BRANDON KOZUN CALGARY
81- JEAN PHILIPPE MATHIEU PEI
82- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
83- JEAN-FRANCOIS BERUBE MONTREAL
84- MICHEAL FINE SAULT STE. MARIE
85- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
86- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
87- CASEY CIZIKAS MISSISSAUGA ST. MIC
88- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
89- JAKOB SILFVERBERG BRYNAS
90- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
91- NIKITA DVURECHENSKY DYNAMO 2
92- GARRETT WILSON OWEN SOUND
93- PATRIK CEHLIN DJURGARDEN JR
94- BRETT PONICH PORTLAND
95- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
96- HAMPUS GUSTAFSSON MALMO JR
97- ANDERS LEE EDINA HIGH
98- BRANDON PIRRI GEORGETOWN
99- EDDIE LACK LEKSAND
100- ANDREI KUCHIN CHEHOV 2

that's my top 100, what do you guys think?

damn dude are you like a pro scout or something?

[CoHo_Grabner2010]

chickenman92, on Mar 14 2009, 06:03 AM, said:

1- JOHN TAVARES LONDON
2- VICTOR HEDMAN MODO
3- EVANDER KANE VANCOUVER
4- MATT DUCHENE BRAMPTON
5- MAGNUS PAAJARVI-SVENSSON TIMRA
6- BRAYDEN SCHENN BRANDON
7- JARED COWEN SPOKANE
8- NAZEM KADRI LONDON
9- DAVID RUNDBLAD SKELLEFTEA
10- SCOTT GLENNIE BRANDON
11- JORDAN SCHROEDER U OF MINNESOTA
12- SIMON DESPRES SAINT JOHN
13- CALVIN DE HAAN OSHAWA
14- DMITRY KULIKOV DRUMMONDVILLE
15- SCOTT STAJCER OWEN SOUND
16- PETER HOLLAND GUELPH
17- RYAN ELLIS WINDSOR
18- ZACK KASSIAN PETERBOROUGH
19- OLIVER EKMAN-LARSSON LEKSAND
20- STEFAN ELLIOTT SASKATOON
21- LOUIS LEBLANC OMAHA
22- JACOB JOSEFSON DJURGARDEN
23- LANDON FERRARO RED DEER
24- JORDAN CARON RIMOUSKI
25- CARTER ASHTON LETHBRIDGE
26- JEREMY MORIN USA U-18
27- ETHAN WEREK KINGSTON
28- DREW SHORE USA U-18
29- EDWARD PASQUALE SAGINAW
30- RICHARD PANIK TRINEC
31- ERIC GELINAS LEWISTON
32- MARCUS JOHANSSON FARJESTAD
33- GABRIEL LEMIEUX SHAWINIGAN
34- OLIVIER ROY CAPE BRETON
35- JOHN MOORE CHICAGO
36- TIM ERIXON SKELLEFTEA
37- ZACH BUDISH EDINA HIGH
38- TAYLOR DOHERTY KINGSTON
39- GUILLAUME GOULET BAIE-COMEAU
40- ANTON RODIN BRYNAS JR
41- BRAYDEN MCNABB KOOTENAY
42- CHRIS KREIDER ANDOVER
43- RYAN HOWSE CHILLIWACK
44- LINDEN VEY MEDICINE HAT
45- CARL KLINGBERG FROLUNDA
46- BRODIE MELNYCHUK BRANDON
47- TOMAS TATAR ZVOLEN
48- MICHAEL LEE FARGO
49- TONI RAJALA ILVES
50- DAVID SAVARD MONCTON
51- RYAN O'REILLY ERIE
52- KELLAN TOCHKIN EVERETT
53- KYLE PALMIERI USA U-18
54- DYLAN OLSEN CAMROSE
55- CHARLES-OL ROUSSEL SHAWINIGAN
56- ANTON LANDER TIMRA
57- DAVID VALEK USA U-18
58- CHRIS BROWN USA U-18
59- RYAN BUTTON PRINCE ALBERT
60- DMITRI ORLOV NOVOKUZNETSK
61- PHILIPPE PARADIS SHAWINIGAN
62- ROBIN LEHNER FROLUNDA JR.
63- TAYLOR BECK GUELPH
64- JIMMY BUBNICK KAMLOOPS
65- TOMMI KIVISTO RED DEER
66- ALEX HUTCHINGS BARRIE
67- TYSON BARRIE KELOWNA
68- MICHAEL LATTA GUELPH
69- ALEX CHIASSON DES MOINES
70- JOONAS NATTINEN ESPOO BLUES
71- WILLIAM WRENN USA U-18
72- CODY EAKIN SWIFT CURRENT
73- HENRIK THEGEL BRYNAS JR
74- NICK LEDDY EDEN PRAIRIE
75- LEVKO KOPER SPOKANE
76- ERIK HAULA SHAT.ST.MARY'S
77- ANTON MYLLARI VASTERAS
78- GARRETT MITCHELL REGINA
79- TYLER RANDELL KITCHENER
80- BRANDON KOZUN CALGARY
81- JEAN PHILIPPE MATHIEU PEI
82- SIMON BERTILSSON BRYNAS
83- JEAN-FRANCOIS BERUBE MONTREAL
84- MICHEAL FINE SAULT STE. MARIE
85- ANDREJ NESTRASIL VICTORIAVILLE
86- KEVIN LYNCH USA U-18
87- CASEY CIZIKAS MISSISSAUGA ST. MIC
88- SETH HELGESON SIOUX CITY
89- JAKOB SILFVERBERG BRYNAS
90- BEN HANOWSKI LITTLE FALLS H.S.
91- NIKITA DVURECHENSKY DYNAMO 2
92- GARRETT WILSON OWEN SOUND
93- PATRIK CEHLIN DJURGARDEN JR
94- BRETT PONICH PORTLAND
95- MATT CLARK BRAMPTON
96- HAMPUS GUSTAFSSON MALMO JR
97- ANDERS LEE EDINA HIGH
98- BRANDON PIRRI GEORGETOWN
99- EDDIE LACK LEKSAND
100- ANDREI KUCHIN CHEHOV 2

that's my top 100, what do you guys think?

Do you have taylor doherty on there?

I'm not sure which round he fell to but I would sure like to land him,at the start of the year he was 26 I think now I have heard him as low as 5th round and as high as 3rd round what happened there.Is it his skating because considering he is about 6'8 I thought is skating was good,anyways I say if he is there in the 3rd or 4th round we take him

[ilikecanucks]

^^^^^
He is 38th.

I wouldnt take the chance on him until the 3rd though. you cant teach 6'8", but 6'8" guys tend to have issues.

Doherty looked awful at the U-18's, although it was a bad tournament for most of the Canadian defensman. I think only de Haan improved his stock, maybe even Olsen, but Depres, Elliott, McNabb, and Doherty looked pretty bad.

With the 53rd pick its likely a better all-around defensman is available, who is less of a risk - like Mcnabb, Ryan Button, Eric Gelinas, even Orlov or Barrie seem less risky to me.

Orlov if willing to come over, could be one of the top 5 defensman to come from this draft. He is 6'0" now, so size isnt much of an issue with him anymore.

If Olsen somehow lasted until our 2nd round pick, I would "cream my jeans", as I heard a lady once say.

[CoHo_Grabner2010]

ilikecanucks, on May 23 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

^^^^^
He is 38th.

I wouldnt take the chance on him until the 3rd though. you cant teach 6'8", but 6'8" guys tend to have issues.

Doherty looked awful at the U-18's, although it was a bad tournament for most of the Canadian defensman. I think only de Haan improved his stock, maybe even Olsen, but Depres, Elliott, McNabb, and Doherty looked pretty bad.

With the 53rd pick its likely a better all-around defensman is available, who is less of a risk - like Mcnabb, Ryan Button, Eric Gelinas, even Orlov or Barrie seem less risky to me.

Orlov if willing to come over, could be one of the top 5 defensman to come from this draft. He is 6'0" now, so size isnt much of an issue with him anymore.

If Olsen somehow lasted until our 2nd round pick, I would "cream my jeans", as I heard a lady once say.

I'm curious what are the issues??

and why has his stock fallen so fast in less then 6 months??

just curious

p.s that would be crazy if Boston drafted him LOL