[NAZZYGUY]

Rey, on Apr 7 2009, 12:55 AM, said:

That still isn't saying much. The points the players are earning gives them chosen in the 4th round and later.

Jordan Weal played 3 games in his 1st year. It really doesn't matter. They are all the same age.


Hall put up 80 points as a 15 year old.


Joey Hishon has 80 points, when the closest guy on his team is at 50 points. He's the same age as Connolly, buddy.

Joey Hishon got 47 points his first year and is 16 Buddy.
Hall put up 20 more points playing for alot stronger team.
Weal is the only one you can compare with, born in the same year ,both played for bad teams. Weal had more points but Connolly had almost twice the goals.

[ilikecanucks]

While he is a top prospect for the 2010 draft, I dont even see him as a consensus top 10 pick. Hall, Kabonov, Pulkkinnen, Burmistrov, Granlund, Gudbranson, Gormley and Fowler on a level better than him at the moment. Connolly is in the next group with Hishon, Weal, McFarland and Toffoli IMO.

It would be nice to have a BC born player with his promise on the Canucks, but since he isnt currently a canucks prospect, should be a lottery pick (top 15) and we are a playoff team and should continue to be next year, let alone the fact that his draft year is 2 drafts away warrants this thread to be moved to general hockey discussion.

This has nothing to do with the canucks other than the fact that "we are all canucks", and Brett's favourite team is the canucks.

[Rey]

NAZZYGUY, on Apr 6 2009, 06:26 PM, said:

Joey Hishon got 47 points his first year and is 16 Buddy.
Hall put up 20 more points playing for alot stronger team.
Weal is the only one you can compare with, born in the same year ,both played for bad teams. Weal had more points but Connolly had almost twice the goals.

Try again. You missed/ignored an entire post.


From your logic. Joey Hishon was a worse team in his first year. Is he better than Connolly because he is on the worse team? That makes no sense.

Hall put up point at the age of 15. He had to skill to play on a top line, over a lot of talent. Connolly would not have had the same PP and ice time on that team.

All of those players listed, aside from McFarland are NOT at this stage 1st round picks, in fact they're at the 3-4th rounds. Your saying that Connolly is a 1st overall? The guy will be lucky to be top 10.

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[Baggy Spandex]

so would you guys say the 2010 draft is a deep one?

[Rey]

Baggy Spandex, on Apr 6 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

so would you guys say the 2010 draft is a deep one?

Been saying that since the beginning of the season.

[Seymour Glass]

u should make a spoon that shoots out mouth refresheners, so u can smell good while eating

[VanCity88]

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Uhh what? He was one of the top rookies in the league. He's a great BC boy with remarkable hands, skill, and speed. 30 goals for a rookie is not just good, it's great. He got even better when Tyrell went down, it would have been great to see them play together some more.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DRi6UwZSbz8 watch that first goal.

You obviously never watched any of his games, he was horrible in his own zone and good for at least 1 maybe 2 turnovers a game. Not only that but he rarely makes a clean tape to tape pass, it's a good thing he's young because a lot of his game needs improvement. All he's known for around PG is his highlight reel goals, and that isn't everything in hockey. Don't get me wrong, he has amazing hands, and unbelievable breakout speed, but I cant ever see him being huge in the NHL.

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[BluXington]

VanCity88, on Apr 6 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

You obviously never watched any of his games, he was horrible in his own zone and good for at least 1 maybe 2 turnovers a game. Not only that but he rarely makes a clean tape to tape pass, it's a good thing he's young because a lot of his game needs improvement. All he's known for around PG is his highlight reel goals, and that isn't everything in hockey. Don't get me wrong, he has amazing hands, and unbelievable breakout speed, but I cant ever see him being huge in the NHL.

Zherdev/Semin anyone?, they often make 1 or 2 giveaways a game and at different times seem to need a map when back in their own zone playing without the puck.

If you have Nhl Hands and Speed you can make it, as long as you create more chances than you give the other team you are an asset that the coach can use to his advantage. If his defensive game never grown in leaps and bounds he will just never be out there in the last 2 minutes of a game where his team is protecting a lead.

[Rey]

BluXington, on Apr 7 2009, 12:25 AM, said:

Zherdev/Semin anyone?, they often make 1 or 2 giveaways a game and at different times seem to need a map when back in their own zone playing without the puck.

If you have Nhl Hands and Speed you can make it, as long as you create more chances than you give the other team you are an asset that the coach can use to his advantage. If his defensive game never grown in leaps and bounds he will just never be out there in the last 2 minutes of a game where his team is protecting a lead.

He doesn't have elite offensive skills. He won't be even close to Zherdev or Semin in terms of talent. We've seen players in the NHL with skill, who show flashes, but aren't good enough. Sergei Samsonov and Maxim Afinoganov is tier 2, Conolley is at this point tier 3, with Robbie Scremp. Though, hes still young and defense can be taught. This kid is not going to be top 5, nor top 10. His high, is probably late(25-30 range) 1st rounder. then again, I'll admit. Ranking players in the 2010 draft is a bit premature.

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[BluXington]

Rey, on Apr 7 2009, 09:44 AM, said:

He doesn't have elite offensive skills. He won't be even close to Zherdev or Semin in terms of talent. We've seen players in the NHL with skill, who show flashes, but aren't good enough. Sergei Samsonov and Maxim Afinoganov is tier 2, Conolley is at this point tier 3, with Robbie Scremp. Though, hes still young and defense can be taught. This kid is not going to be top 5, nor top 10. His high, is probably late(25-30 range) 1st rounder. then again, I'll admit. Ranking players in the 2010 draft is a bit premature.

Don't get me wrong I am not sticking up for the Kid/Op, I was simply saying that being bad defensively never stopped players with elite hands/speed from making the NHL.

He has another year before he is drafted, who knows just how much he may Grow in Talent/Size between now and the draft. Allot of times players are drafted on the basis of talent alone and not their production at the time of being drafted, those players however are projects and would be in the 15-30 range in most drafts. Like you said he could end up be a late pick, 25-30 in a deep 2010 draft.

[Rey]

BluXington, on Apr 7 2009, 10:15 AM, said:

Don't get me wrong I am not sticking up for the Kid/Op, I was simply saying that being bad defensively never stopped players with elite hands/speed from making the NHL.

He has another year before he is drafted, who knows just how much he may Grow in Talent/Size between now and the draft. Allot of times players are drafted on the basis of talent alone and not their production at the time of being drafted, those players however are projects and would be in the 15-30 range in most drafts. Like you said he could end up be a late pick, 25-30 in a deep 2010 draft.

Elite talent cannot be taught. I'm saying that Connolly is far from being Elite offensively( in the nhl) in any sort of way.

[CoHo_Grabner2010]

Rey, on Apr 7 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

Elite talent cannot be taught. I'm saying that Connolly is far from being Elite offensively( in the nhl) in any sort of way.

I like the kid but unlike the op I highly doubt he will be in the top 20,that bein said if we have a decent team next season we would have a shot at him.

As for the horrible team theory,I'm not big on that idea

Little side note though shouldn't this be in general hockey talk,seein as how he is not 1 of our picks/prospects

Although who cares anymore I guess.

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[Rob_Zepp]

**Pavel4Life**, on Apr 6 2009, 03:53 PM, said:

but he prbably won't witch therefor negates this as Cancuks talk right?

I found this hilarious for some reason!

[Oats101]

I am watching the U18 semi-final featuring Connolly and Hishon.

I haven't been very impressed with Connolly's play so far in this game.

Hishon has been a bit of a dynamo scoring two goals by going hard to the net. And hit the post after deking and sliding a back-hand 5-hole. He looks like he has top flight potential.


WOW I take it back about Connolly, he just had a really nice pp shift showing some soft hands.

hopefully he can have improve and be a good NHLer maybe in a nucks uniform

[Oats101]

P.S. they had Connolly out for the last shift up 3-2 with swedens goalie out.
and he buried the empty-netter.

[JBurroughs]

haha i used to play road hockey with brett conolly

[Shredder]

I'm reading the Hockey News Future Watch and they do not have Connolly listed in their top ten. Here is their top ten:


1. Taylor Hall

2. Kirill Kabanov

3. Brandon Gormley

4. Cam Fowler

5. Erik Gudbranson

6. Mikael Granlund

7. John McFarland

8. Teemu Pulkkinen

9. Alexander Burmistrov

10. Tyler Toffoli

[rgrewal3]

This kid has soo much skill you would be amazed he is so good. He played on a bad team and still put up some really good numbers.

[A.Burrows#14]

hey shut up
brett plays for the prince george cougars my home team and they are not great but ok
brett scored a great goal this year would like to see him with canucks

[Trailblazer949]

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haha i used to play road hockey with brett conolly

yea i second that too, from way back in the day haha