[chickenman92]

May mock draft- based on a det vs pitts final with pitts winning

1- nyi -John Tavares, C, London- Gives the isles the star they need to get a new building. I'm not sure he's a centre at the nhl level because of his average skating and play in his own end which is very import for centres in the nhl. imo the isles will play him with okposo and bailey and turn the kids loose next year, in 2 years or less they will give the isles a real #1 line.

-potential- #1 forward, 40-50 goal guy

-possible scenario - isle's trade down to 2 or 3 and take hedman or duchene and get extra picks, prospects or players

2- tb- Victor Hedman, D, Modo- TB's #1 need is D and hedman will fill that right away and for 15+ years to if they can keep him that long. as everyone knows he has size, skating and skill

- potential- #1 D, 60-80 point guy who plays 25+ min a night

-possible scenario - trade down and take another D or for players

3- col - Matt Duchene, C, Brampton- Is maybe the best skater in the draft and a very complete player. can score and play very well in his own end. would not surprise me if in 15 years we look back and he's the best player in the draft. Av's get someone to take over for sakic.

- potential- #1 centre who can do it all

-possible scenario - trade down to pick a D or goalie which they need most and pick up extra picks, prospects or players

4- atl - Brayden Schenn, C, Brandon- The Thrashers need both D and forwards imo so they take a guy who imo is the best player. Schenn will give the thrashers a skilled power forward which I don't think they have ever really had

- potential- top 6 forward 60-70pt guy, who i see stepping up in the playoffs big time

-possible scenario- I think they will keep the pick, maybe they take kane, cowen, msp or kulikov here

5- la - Magnus Svensson-Paajarvi, LW, Timra- The Kings are loaded with good your D so imo they will trade this pick for a player or take the best forward. MSP looks to be in the same mold as Hossa with tons of speed and skill. They may also look at kane here but imo MSP is a better fit.

- potential- top 6 forward, 60-90pt guy

-possible scenario- trading the pick for help now although MSP could step in next year

6- phx- Dmitry Kulikov, D, Drummondville- The Yote's have a lot of good young forwards now they need someone to move the puck up to them. Kulikov can play any roll, he's physical, can shut guys down, pass the puck well, run a pp and lead the rush. maybe they look at cowen but I see them taking kulikov because he's better offence.

- potential- top pairing D, 50-70 pt guy

-possible scenario- trading down if they think they like someone better

7- tor- Jared Cowen, D, Spokane- Leafs need pretty well every thing and re-building the team around Cowen and Schenn is a good start. Cowen gives the leafs 2 big physical D. He also has a bit of offense but is more a stay at home guy who will hit and keep the puck out of his net. maybe they look at kane, glennie, schroeder or OEL here but I think Cowen is their guy

- potential-shut down D who plays a ton

-possible scenario- trading up for tavares, hedman, duchene or schenn or down for kassian but I think burke picks here

8- dal- Evander Kane, C, Vancouver- Dallas has a pretty good team that just had a rough year. The could use A D with their ageing blue line but kane is a pretty hard player to pass on. He's a very complete player who had a bit of a rough playoffs. he can score and check if you need him to. OEL could also be picked here

- potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- picking a D, but I think they are pick here

9- ott- Oliver Ekman- Larsson, D, Leksand- Another Great Swedish D for the sen's who can move the puck well and is solid in his own end. Good skater, passer and is poise in his own end. maybe they look for some secondary scoring help in glennie or kadri or another D like rundblad

- potential- top pairing D, 40-60 pts guy

-possible scenario- I think they're picking here, maybe they trade up if they think they have to, to get OEL or Kulikov

10- edm- Scott Glennie, RW, Brandon- has the speed and skill the oilers love. Is also a very complete player who played well in the playoffs too. Oilers could maybe use a goalie but there aren't any I see going here so they take the best player. maybe they look at kadri or rundblad but i think glennie will be their guy

- potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- I think they're picking here

11- nash- Jordan Schroeder, C, Uof M- Nashville doesn't mind the small players and they need to add some skill up front. Schroeder and wilson were great together on the usa jr team the preds will look to put them back together.

- potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- I think they will be picking here

12- min- Nazem Kadri, C, London- Wild need scoring and skill and Kadri has that. he also has good speed and plays a very complete game which is what the wild use to look for and draft. hard pick to project here with a new gm but kadri to me seems like a wild type guy.

- potential- top 6 forward, 50-70pt guy

-possible scenario- who knows with a new gm

13- buf -Ryan Ellis, D, Windsor- I wouldn't take him here but I just see the sabres as the right team for him. they need goals from their blue line and ellis does that, also I can't think of a better partner for him to have then tyler myers.

- potential-16-20 min D,50-70 pt D

-possible scenario- I think they are picking, rundblad could be looked at too

14- fla- David Rundblad, D, Skelleftea- This pick really depends if boumeaster is signed which I'd say is 50/50. If Jay Bou goes Rundblad is the perfect guy to replace him, in fact he may be more skilled and a better scorer. he reminds me so much of mike green. debours may want a big physical forward like kassian but i would take rundblad

- potential- top pairing D, 60-80 pt D

-possible scenario- pick a power forward

15- Ahn- Jeremy Morin, LW, USDP-Ducks have a few good young players in their system and could use a pure sniper, Morin is that. He's a decent skater with an unreal shot and high skill, with an edge to his game like perry and getzlaf. he could use a bit of work in his own end but so can a lot of prospects. others the ducks may look at are josefson, moore, kassian or budish.

-potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- I think their picking here

16- cbj-John Moore, D, Chicago- I'm not a huge fan of this kid but he is top 10 on a lot of lists. will bring skill, skating and leadership to the jackets back end. the jackets have some good young forwards and a goalie, now they need some D to go with them, maybe de haan, despres, erixon are options here

- potential- 4/5 D 30-40 pt D

-possible scenario- I think they are going D I'm just not sure who


17- stl-Peter Holland, C,Guelph- Big centre that can skate, have read a few places the blues really like this kid. is a very good 2 way guy but imo makes bad decisions with the puck from time to time.

potential- 2nd line centre, 40-70 pts

-possible scenario- trade the pick for help now

18- mtl-Louis Leblanc, C, Omaha- another very complete player who reminds me of simon gagne. the Canadians have fairly good youth so they can wait for leblanc while he goes to college. maybe they look at shore, or josefson here

- potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- trading the pick for help now but I think they are picking at home, maybe trade up to wow the crowd and get someone they really like


19- nyr-Carter Ashton, RW, Lethbridge- The rangers have drafted D with pretty good success the last few years and I think they look for a big body for them to pass to and take ashton. He'll add a little size up front and reminds me a bit of jeff carter. he's got size, is a good skater and can score.

-potential- 2nd line RW, 50-70 pt guy

-possible scenario- maybe they take panik, kassian, shore, krieder josefson or rajala


20- cgy- Zack Kassian, RW, Peterborough- Big, physical, mean player with good hands. Has some skating issues and takes dumb penalties which is why i see him going this late but to win the cup teams usually have a guy like him who hits, fights and can score a bit to. this kid has sutter writen all over him

-potential- 2/3 line RW, 40-60 pt guy

-possible scenario- maybe they take budish, shore or josefson

21- phi- Mikko Koskinen Goalie Blues- a little off the board here but Koskinen is the most nhl ready goalie and imo could play the 2nd half of the nhl season if he starts the season in the nhl. 6"7 and a great athlete with very solid positioning. the last player to tear up the fin league like him was tim thomas so don't be surprised if someone takes him in the 1st if they don't have a 2nd like the flyers

-potential- starting goalie

-possible scenario- maybe they take budish, shore, dehaan or josefson, or trade the pick for a goalie

22- van-Jacob Josefson,C, Djurgarden- Best player available and will one day be a good 2nd line centre. Very smart and skilled, good skater who makes the players around him better. good in all 3 zones and a very complete player.

-potential- 2nd line centre, 50-70 pt guy

-possible scenario- maybe they take erixon, de haan, despres, panik, shore or elliott


23- nj- Calvin De Haan, D, Oshawa- Smooth skating puck moving D who I love the way he plays. So poise and smart in all 3 zones. reminds me a lot of neidermayer with out the physical play (which should come when he fills out). Erixon, despres or elliott could be options here or a goalie.

-potential- top pairing D, 50-70pt guy

-possible scenario- taking a different D


24- wash- Simon Despres, D, Saint John- Big, smooth skating D with the tools to be a good D. imo he slips this far because he has the tools but hasn't really put everything together yet. The caps have enough young guys right now to give him time to develop

-potential- 3/4 D, 30-50 pt guy

-possible scenario-maybe they gamble on a wild card like panik, budish or kreider but I think they play it safe and take the bpa

25- bos- Stefan Elliott, D, Saskatoon- Neely and the Bruins have gone out west the past few years and I think they stay there and take a great skating, high skilled, puck moving D. Elliott is a great skater who has been called a poor man's scott neidermayer who could use some work on his physical game but I'm sure the bruins can help him with that

-potential- 3/4 D, PP QB, 40-60 pt guy

-possible scenario- other players they may look at are rajala, erixon, werek, or caron


26- nyi(from sj)- Chris Kreider, C, Andover- Bit of a wild card of the draft because of the level he's played at but has the size, speed and skill to be a good one. Isle's need as much talent as they can get and kreider is the bpa

-potential- top 6 forward, 50-70 pt guy

-possible scenario- they may draft shore, erixon, panik or budish

27- car- Drew Shore, C, USDP- Shore is a very complete hockey player who imo will be a very good all around 1a or 2nd line centre. He is a very good skater, who works hard and has good skill. I know the canes have drafted out west the last few drafts but shore is the bpa so I think he goes here

-potential-1a or 2nd line C, 50-70 pt guy

-possible scenario- Werek,erixon or Caron


28- chi- Zack Budish, C/RW, Edina High- Budish is big, physical, and skilled. Budish is a middle linebacker on skates and the hawks have enough young players to wait for him.

-potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- maybe they trade the pick for help now or draft a goalie but I think they will take the highest rated guy, maybe ferraro, caron or rajala

29- det- Tim Erixon, D, Skelleftea- typical wings pick. Very steady and smooth. Is not as dynamic or flashy as the other swed D but is still a very good skater who reads the play well, has a decent shot and can play in all situations. should be able to step right in, in a few years for some of their ageing D.

-potential- 3/4 D, 30-50 pt guy

-possible scenario- pick tatar, rajala or panik

30- pitt- Richard Panik, RW, Trinec- The pen's keep looking and trading players away for a scoring winger for crosby or malkin and panik is that. When panik wants to play he can take over games but this past year he hasn't looked that motivated. If he can't get up to play with those 2 stars nothing will get him up.

-potential- top 6 forward, 50-100 pt guy

-possible scenario- pick caron or rajala

This post has been edited by chickenman92: 21 May 2009 - 08:34 AM

[luongo61]

ok

[SuperSakic]

tim is perfect for us
i would try for oel wouldn't he be a little lower?

[smitty8]

hedman 60-80 point player, i stopped reading there

[chickenman92]

here's some other mocks canucks pick under link

http://www.mynhldraf...NHL-Mock-Draft/
- kyle palmeiri
http://sports2debate...=...4&Itemid=17
-Jacob Josefson
http://redlightd.blo...k-draft-20.html
-Stefan Elliott
http://flagrantfouls...-mock-draft-10/
-Louis Leblanc
http://mvn.com/hocke...-draft-v11.html
-Carter Ashton
http://www.thehockey...k-draft-10.html
-Jacob Josefson
http://hfboards.com/...ad.php?t=632266
-Calvin Dehann, Jakob Siflverberg
http://nhldraftsite.com/
-Drew Shore, Taylor Doherty, Patric Cehlin, Ryan Bourque, Andrej Nestrasil
http://www.totalpros...l-mock-draft-1/
-Stefan Elliott
http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=30950
-Dmitry Kulikov
http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=30949
-Dmitry Kulikov
http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=30942
-Carter Ashton
http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=31266
-Jordan Caron
http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=31267
-Jacob Josefson

[vancanfan]

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19- cal- Zack Budish, C/RW, Edina High- Budish is exactly what sutter likes, big physical and skilled. Budish is a middle linebacker on skates and the flames have ok prospect depth to wait for him. maybe they go kassian, werek or one of the D left.

-potential- top 6 forward, 60-80pt guy

-possible scenario- giving the pick to the yotes or trading it, nothing the flames do on draft day surprises me

The Wild will draft this kid, mark my words chickenman.

[RobberLuongo]

how long did this take you?

[Verloren]

That's a lot of Kulikov dropping down to us.

[chickenman92]

vancanfan, on May 7 2009, 07:45 PM, said:

The Wild will draft this kid, mark my words chickenman.

how can you say that, we don't even know who their gm is

about 2 days to do this

This post has been edited by chickenman92: 07 May 2009 - 07:50 PM

[timw33]

Tim Erixon, deal.

[ilikecanucks]

Dont think any of the goalies eligible have the same qualities as last years top 2: Pickard(16th) and Markstrom(31), so I definately dont see Hackett or Pasquale going in the 1st round. I realize the team you usually try and have goalies going to teams with question marks at that position, but drafted goalies often take some sort of seasoning so who knows if Philly wont have that covered in 3 years.

Also Jake Allen, is a far better goalie prospect than Matthew Hackett, so I dont think St. Louis moves for a goalie at that spot, to me they trade it for a proven puck mover on defence, or they draft one( de Haan/Erixon), wouldnt be surprised to see another power forward type either(Kassian/Ashton), or a natural scorer (Morin).

I really like St Louis' building blocks for the future, Im hoping the Canucks can have a decent draft so they dont fall too far behind the Elite young western conference teams such as: Chicago, St. Louis, Los Angeles, and Columbus.

[chickenman92]

ilikecanucks, on May 8 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

Dont think any of the goalies eligible have the same qualities as last years top 2: Pickard(16th) and Markstrom(31), so I definately dont see Hackett or Pasquale going in the 1st round. I realize the team you usually try and have goalies going to teams with question marks at that position, but drafted goalies often take some sort of seasoning so who knows if Philly wont have that covered in 3 years.

Also Jake Allen, is a far better goalie prospect than Matthew Hackett, so I dont think St. Louis moves for a goalie at that spot, to me they trade it for a proven puck mover on defence, or they draft one( de Haan/Erixon), wouldnt be surprised to see another power forward type either(Kassian/Ashton), or a natural scorer (Morin).

I really like St Louis' building blocks for the future, Im hoping the Canucks can have a decent draft so they dont fall too far behind the Elite young western conference teams such as: Chicago, St. Louis, Los Angeles, and Columbus.

i disagree about no goalies going 1st rd

-philly needs a goalie and they have no 2nd rd pick so if they want a good one they will have to draft one in the 1st

- yes the blues have allen but i think hackett is a better prospect, there's a reason allen was a 4th rd pick.

also here's the last few drafts for goalies. now it does seem to be on the down side but imo 2 will go 1st rd this year i'm just a little unsure which 2. lots of teams are missing their 2nd so if they want one early they will have to grab one or figure a way to trade up their 3rd

08-Chet Pickard(18)
07-none
06- Jonathan Bernier(11), Riku Helenius(15), Semen Varlamov(23), Leland Irving(26)
05-Carey Price(5), Tuukka Rask(21)
04-Al Montoya(6), Devan Dubnyk(14), Marek Schwarz(17), Cory Schneider(26)
03-Marc-Andre Fleury(1)
02-Kari Lehtonen(2), Cam Ward(25), Hannu Toivonen(29)
01-Pascal Leclaire(8), Dan Blackburn(10), Jason Bacashihua(26), Adam Munro(29)
00-Rick DiPietro(1), Brent Krahn(9),

[ilikecanucks]

chickenman92, on May 8 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

i disagree about no goalies going 1st rd

-philly needs a goalie and they have no 2nd rd pick so if they want a good one they will have to draft one in the 1st

- yes the blues have allen but i think hackett is a better prospect, there's a reason allen was a 4th rd pick.

also here's the last few drafts for goalies. now it does seem to be on the down side but imo 2 will go 1st rd this year i'm just a little unsure which 2. lots of teams are missing their 2nd so if they want one early they will have to grab one or figure a way to trade up their 3rd

08-Chet Pickard(18)
07-none
06- Jonathan Bernier(11), Riku Helenius(15), Semen Varlamov(23), Leland Irving(26)
05-Carey Price(5), Tuukka Rask(21)
04-Al Montoya(6), Devan Dubnyk(14), Marek Schwarz(17), Cory Schneider(26)
03-Marc-Andre Fleury(1)
02-Kari Lehtonen(2), Cam Ward(25), Hannu Toivonen(29)
01-Pascal Leclaire(8), Dan Blackburn(10), Jason Bacashihua(26), Adam Munro(29)
00-Rick DiPietro(1), Brent Krahn(9),

Jake Allen was the 3rd goalie taken last year behind Pickard and Markstrom @ 34th overall, there is a reason he was a very high 2nd round pick, and is likely to be Canada's starting goalie at the next World Juniors.

The goalies arent that good this year, its apparent from many publications not having any until 38-40th overall. Even if teams dont have a 2nd round pick, they arent likely to pass up on a supremely talented skater to draft an above average goalie (which is what this years goalies are). THN doesnt have Hackett, Stajcer, Bobkov, Lee or Janus in their top 100, so it is pretty likely you could get a decent goalie in the 3rd round.

Of the 21 goalies you listed who have been drafted in the 1st round over the last 9 drafts, how many would you say still possess NHL #1 goalie potential? DiPietro, Leclaire, Lehtonen, Ward, Fleury, Schneider, Varlamov, Bernier, Rask, and Price....so 10 guys who for sure look good, with Pickard not having much time, Irving having question marks, and Montoya still having the jury out on him....I would say that over half the teams of the 1st round goalies taken in that time span regret there picks: Krahn?Blackburn(injury), Bacashiua?Munro?Toivonen?Dubnyk? Schwarz?Helenius? All these guys have little to no shot at being elite NHL goalies, and left their respective clubs still looking for that franchise goalie.

At best this draft is similar to the 2007 goalie class, NO 1st round talent, 4 goalies in the 2nd, 3 in the 3rd, and all of them are still proving themselves.

Even if I am the GM in Philly, I dont pass up on a cheap talented young skater, when you could have a #1 goalie by the time one of those goalies even develops into a solid AHL goalie.

This post is my no means a discouragement to your mock drafts, I always enjoy reading them, but talented defenseman are always a sought after commodity, and this draft is brimming with them, whereas the goalies leave a lot to be desired IMO. The Best goalie doesnt crack my list until 38!

[MarinerIslanderSean]

Isles are picking 26th, not 22nd, but I'd take Erixon there too. Good job overall chickenman, and I enjoy reading your lists at HFBoards as well.

[vancanfan]

chickenman92, on May 7 2009, 10:49 PM, said:

how can you say that, we don't even know who their gm is

about 2 days to do this

Because he is a local boy for one and its been written in the Pioneer Press that he is one player the team has been evaluating for months.

[chickenman92]

MarinerIslanderSean, on May 9 2009, 04:00 AM, said:

Isles are picking 26th, not 22nd, but I'd take Erixon there too. Good job overall chickenman, and I enjoy reading your lists at HFBoards as well.

yah i've seen that a few places to, i'm not sure how people are getting that they pick 26th and not 22. i thoght the draft was based on playoff success and if you go by that they should be picking 22 because they were the best team to loose out in the 1st rd. can someone tell me why they are picking 26th?

[Burgundy]

There will be NO goalies going in the first round this year.

[xIceCubez]

I'd take a chance on Panik, he could be great if all goes well.

[ilikecanucks]

chickenman92, on May 9 2009, 07:06 AM, said:

yah i've seen that a few places to, i'm not sure how people are getting that they pick 26th and not 22. i thoght the draft was based on playoff success and if you go by that they should be picking 22 because they were the best team to loose out in the 1st rd. can someone tell me why they are picking 26th?

I am not 100% sure how it works, but I think regular season record comes into the decision making. I think it has to do with being the "BEST" regular season team, Presidents trophy winners, I think the NHL probably has a rule in place to keep the rich from getting richer. They shouldnt be rewarded for CHOKING - AGAIN!

It would be nice, if someone who actually new how it works could let us know.

[MarinerIslanderSean]

ilikecanucks, on May 9 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

I am not 100% sure how it works, but I think regular season record comes into the decision making. I think it has to do with being the "BEST" regular season team, Presidents trophy winners, I think the NHL probably has a rule in place to keep the rich from getting richer. They shouldnt be rewarded for CHOKING - AGAIN!

It would be nice, if someone who actually new how it works could let us know.

The four conference finalists pick #27-30 (conference final losers #27 and #28, Stanley Cup Final loser #29, and Stanley Cup Champion #30), and then picks #15-26 are in inverse order by record for the other playoff teams. The San Jose pick automatically becomes #26 because they were the best regular season team (President's Trophy winner) to not make the conference finals.

This post has been edited by MarinerIslanderSean: 14 May 2009 - 10:14 AM