[scottrockztheworld]

ramirez_inc, on Jul 25 2009, 03:02 PM, said:

Except for the extremely soft goal he let in from the blue line.

It was an elbow.

[Nuxin07]

scottrockztheworld, on Jul 25 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

It was an elbow.

Who cares? That feline Hansen should have kept his head up...this is the same guy who is complaining that he deserves a 1 way contract. Give me a break!

It's not Luongos job to be the ref, that was a terrible goal and he should have known better.

As for the Hawks series, the D and Lou both blew it. They were all terrible if you ask me so hopefully they learn from this. Personally I'm not convinced guys like Bieksa will ever be that solid in their own defensive zone but I guess you have to work with what you got. If Luongo is looking for $7.5M or more, then he better prepare to have a worse defensive corps then other years because there won't be any cap space left to upgrade that position.

[ramirez_inc]

scottrockztheworld, on Jul 25 2009, 06:09 PM, said:

It was an elbow.

I agree, But its not luongos job to make penalty calls, Its his job to stop the puck. So TWO people wernt doing thier job right then, not just one.

[CreaseBeast]

ramirez_inc, on Jul 25 2009, 04:30 PM, said:

I agree, But its not luongos job to make penalty calls, Its his job to stop the puck. So TWO people wernt doing thier job right then, not just one.

can't argue with that

[SuperReverb2]

ramirez_inc, on Jul 25 2009, 04:30 PM, said:

I agree, But its not luongos job to make penalty calls, Its his job to stop the puck. So TWO people wernt doing thier job right then, not just one.

+2

[Zippgunn]

Coyote, on Jul 23 2009, 01:14 PM, said:

How the hell do you figure that teams like the NYI and LA are closer to being a cup contender than us?
Prospects don't make a cup contender, winning does. Last time I checked we were doing pretty good in that category.

...except when it really matters.

[hockeyville88]

http://www.sportsnet...tid=31289981001

at the end of the video Gillman discusses Luongo's contract negotiatons. Sounds like it's still a work in progress
i'm gettin anxious!!

[ramirez_inc]

hockeyville88, on Jul 31 2009, 10:55 AM, said:

http://www.sportsnet...tid=31289981001

at the end of the video Gillman discusses Luongo's contract negotiatons. Sounds like it's still a work in progress
i'm gettin anxious!!

Yea just saw that. Doesnt sound too concerned, I beleive that Lu will get re-signed...

[nux4lyfe]

I hope Luongo's in Van right now witnessing this heat wave!

[drfunkenstein]

I find that most of the time with salary negotiations, somebody reports some insane number that's much, much higher than what is actually being discussed. I remember before the Wellwood arbitration a report came out that he was asking 2.4 million. No he wasn't. So when I hear about Luongo asking for 8 mil, I doubt it. My guess is the number's closer to 7.

[hockeyville88]

certainlynotharry, on Jul 31 2009, 10:54 AM, said:

I find that most of the time with salary negotiations, somebody reports some insane number that's much, much higher than what is actually being discussed. I remember before the Wellwood arbitration a report came out that he was asking 2.4 million. No he wasn't. So when I hear about Luongo asking for 8 mil, I doubt it. My guess is the number's closer to 7.

ya that's true
it was the same thing with the sedins. someone reported that they were asking for $7-7.5 mill and all the fans were livid. turns out they signed for $6.1

Luongo's not a dummy. he knows how the NHL works and how the salary cap era works. he sees that teams that win championships have good D in front of them. he's not going to command all the team's resources so that we have no $$$ left to sign anyone else. and if he does, well we can let him walk.

i just can't see him not re-signing. i mean the guy is our captain, he was at the draft table with us this year, heck he even announced our pick. how can you go from being that involved in the team to not even being a part of them?

[sedated]

Why do people blame the Anaheim series on Luongo? The team in from was crap, we weren't going to win that series. The only game we won came from a fluke bounce from COWAN of all people. Luongo was stealing the show every night yet Anaheim was all over the rest of the team. Even if it was dumb of Luongo, Neids didn't even try to pick the corner like that, it was more of a fluke than anything. Neids just tried to throw it towards the net because it was near the line.

Do people not remember how badly Anaheim was outplaying us or what? It's as bad as people ignoring how the entire defense crap the bed against Chicago, yet people blame Luongo for getting scored on when no one clears out rebounds or the front of the net, on top of Havlat and Kane getting free shots. Newsflash. Kane scored a similar goal against Detroit, which ironically was really the only time he ever got open for a shot. Against Vancouver, he had so many chances it was ridiculous.

Anaheim series was lost when we sucked and got severely outplayed.

Chicago series was lost when Mitchell, Kesler, and Ohlund kept making boneheaded plays resulting directly into goals. Especially a bad clearing attempt by Mitchell that let Havlat tie it up with a clear shot where a victory would of put us up 3-1 in the series. And it's not a knock on Mitchell, that was just incredibly stupid. Just like how Kesler tripped up Salo and we gave up a free empty net goal. It was painful watching our team fall apart like that.

[L.Edler23]

hockeyville88, on Jul 31 2009, 08:55 AM, said:

http://www.sportsnet...tid=31289981001

at the end of the video Gillman discusses Luongo's contract negotiatons. Sounds like it's still a work in progress
i'm gettin anxious!!

Really hope it gets done soon...it will be a huge distraction during the season if it's not done. So the talks are still going on? Probably took a huge break during prospect camp and are starting discussions again.

[Lager Hog]

gray, on Jul 31 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

The report was that he wants to "be among the highest paid goaltenders in the league." Last I checked he was second behind Lundvqist by $100k. He's also looking for a raise above his $6.75m. I'm sorry but I just don't think he's worth $7m. Some people think he is, and I respect that. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and at the end of the day the only opinion that matters is Aquilinis. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see. But if it turns out he gets over $7m, well then I think we can all sit around and laugh about those jokes about him wanting to win a cup, cause it aint gonna happen with that much tied up in net.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282927

I guess we can question the veracity of the report, but I don't see someone with the ego of Luongo taking a paycut. He thinks he's the best in the league skill wise, so he's going to want to be the highest paid, in my opinion.

Isn't he making $7.5 million this year? Acording to NHL Numbers he is. If he gets $8million, then between him and the sedins, that's over 1/3 of the salaray cap.

[L.Edler23]

gray, on Jul 31 2009, 11:50 AM, said:

The report was that he wants to "be among the highest paid goaltenders in the league." Last I checked he was second behind Lundvqist by $100k. He's also looking for a raise above his $6.75m. I'm sorry but I just don't think he's worth $7m. Some people think he is, and I respect that. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and at the end of the day the only opinion that matters is Aquilinis. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see. But if it turns out he gets over $7m, well then I think we can all sit around and laugh about those jokes about him wanting to win a cup, cause it aint gonna happen with that much tied up in net.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282927

I guess we can question the veracity of the report, but I don't see someone with the ego of Luongo taking a paycut. He thinks he's the best in the league skill wise, so he's going to want to be the highest paid, in my opinion.

That story is a month old isnt it? And it was before free agency, so Luongo might've wanted to sign an extension before, but maybe he sees how little we did to improve the team and is maybe having second thoughts, I don't think the money is the real issue I just think we need to convince him to stay, meaning that we need to do well throughout the season or bye bye Luongo..

[CanucksWino]

Lager Hog, on Jul 31 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

Isn't he making $7.5 million this year? Acording to NHL Numbers he is. If he gets $8million, then between him and the sedins, that's over 1/3 of the salaray cap.

Yah, but his cap hit is still only $6.75. With the million different ways individual contracts are structured, I'm sure Luongo is talking cap hit per year.

[Lager Hog]

CanucksWino, on Jul 31 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

Yah, but his cap hit is still only $6.75. With the million different ways individual contracts are structured, I'm sure Luongo is talking cap hit per year.

I would assume he means what he's putting in his pocket. If he's putting $7.5 this past season, don't you think he'll want to make more? I don't think he's concerened about cap hit, I would think he's more concerened about take home pay.

[Gady]

gray, on Jul 31 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

No, because the cap is just the average salary year to year. Therefore, the total contract value is the same. He is taking home the same amount of money. So it doesn't matter if he goes 8,8,4 or 10,5,5 at the end of the day he's still making the same amount of money. So he wants a raise over his 6.75m deal. So, if he signed another 4 year deal instead of the $27m one he got, he's probably looking for one in the $31m range.

it probably holds true for the LAST career contract, but not exactly for the prime one. It's much easier to negotiate your NEXT contract if you got your numbers going up (or, at least pretty even), rather then your proposed schemes. Imagine, say, 7,7,7 after your previous 8,8,4?