Canvoucer Vanuck Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 seriously. did you see that guy trying to argue with me about sauve being "slow", and even tried to continue the fight after I showed his fastest skater results matching tambellini and barely slower than Schroeder, both of which people routinely refer to as fast. anyways, back to Schroeder, he's been good and improving at a steady rate, but the problem i've had with him is consistency throughout the game. Most of the game you'd barely notice he was on the ice, but a couple shifts here and there he'd have an amazing shift, where he would just dominate. I'd like to see him do that the entire game, or at least more often. It's these shifts that you could think of as game breaking, especially as they usually happen near the end of the period. Haha, I saw that. It made me The consensus among almost everybody is that he's a good skater. Just 'cause you're not blazing fast like Bure or Grabner doesn't mean you're not a good skater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Schroeder is fast. I have no idea who thinks he is slow. I think he is going to surprise a bunch of folks in training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Schroeder is fast. I have no idea who thinks he is slow. I think he is going to surprise a bunch of folks in training camp. Apparently Cody Hodgson's foot speed applies to all of our prospects forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I think Schroeder can be the 3rd line centre we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Schroeder is fast. I have no idea who thinks he is slow. I think he is going to surprise a bunch of folks in training camp. noone was thinking schroeder was slow, some douche in canucks talk was trying to argue that sauve was slow, which I countered with numerous points, one of which his matching Schroeder in the fastest skater comp on the moose, and then the kid started saying sauve didn't use it in game, grasping at straws, and falling back on personal attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 noone was thinking schroeder was slow, some douche in canucks talk was trying to argue that sauve was slow, which I countered with numerous points, one of which his matching Schroeder in the fastest skater comp on the moose, and then the kid started saying sauve didn't use it in game, grasping at straws, and falling back on personal attacks. Didn't know that. Cool. Yeah I thought Sauve was also fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bite me Burr Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I think Schroeder can be the 3rd line centre we need. I totally disagree. We already had the worst checkin line C in the history of the NHL, in Welly. Those days are over. Big, physical, shot blocking, price paying, fast and grit is what this team needs at C behind the Kesler line, not a flashy smurf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 for once i agree with jim, the only way that setup would work is to go the sabres route a few years ago briere-drury and the kid line of vanek-roy-afinogenov and use kesler like they used drury to matchup and play the checking role. much easier to just get a thirdline checking centre and put schroeder on kesler's wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 for once i agree with jim, the only way that setup would work is to go the sabres route a few years ago briere-drury and the kid line of vanek-roy-afinogenov and use kesler like they used drury to matchup and play the checking role. much easier to just get a thirdline checking centre and put schroeder on kesler's wing. We tried putting Schroeder on the wing in his first year in AHL. Failed experiment. If Schroeder is going to be in the NHL, it will be as a centre. Also, Kesler shouldn't be used as a third liner... He's a Selke winner getting 5M a year. We can't afford to play him 13-15 minutes a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22sedins33 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 We tried putting Schroeder on the wing in his first year in AHL. Failed experiment. If Schroeder is going to be in the NHL, it will be as a centre. Also, Kesler shouldn't be used as a third liner... He's a Selke winner getting 5M a year. We can't afford to play him 13-15 minutes a game. Stop getting sucked into the number attached to the line. If he plays against the other teams top line every single time they're out in a defensive role he certainly wouldn't be playing 15min. If he plays on the top PP and top PK unit he's definitely not getting 15min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrows101 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He's gonna be our 2 line center real soon and for a long time!! the next American Martin St Louis....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He's gonna be our 2 line center real soon and for a long time!! the next American Martin St Louis....... there was a previous american martin st. louis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I still have faith that the guy can make it as a regular contributor for the Canucks. His skill just has to shine through because, although he has improved immensely as a defensive player, he's not going to make and stick in the NHL because of his defensive abilities. He hasn't exactly lit up the AHL but hopefully he's one of those players whose abilities become apparent when he's playing with better, smarter players. I really hope he shows enough in camp in the fall to take the 2nd line centre spot while Kesler is out. It would be the perfect opportunity to get a ton of experience and show off what he can do because the 2nd line centre role isn't exactly a small role he'd be thrust in to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If he doesn't make the NHL then I really hope he's given the 1st line centre spot on the Wolves. For whatever reason, even though he was the most skilled centre on the Wolves last year, Coach McTavish insisted on spreading out the talent so he was always centering the 2nd line or even the 3rd line at times. If he's given an opportunity to center the 1st line, I imagine he'd be playing between two veteran AHL talents in Brett Sterling and Darren Haydar. Or, if he has more chemistry with the likes of Anton Rodin or Bill Sweatt, make one of those guys get the top line LW and shift Sterling down. Haydar, though, is a 1st line mainstay and I think him and Schroeder could make things happen. Rodin - Schroeder - Haydar Sterling - _______ - Gordon Sweatt - Friesen - Pinizzotto Archibald - Schneider - Davies ^Pretty decent lineup. All it needs is a decent 2nd line centre. Who knows, maybe Mallet shows enough of a skill/grit mix to take over that spot. If not, I could see him taking the 4th line LW spot if Archibald bombs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bite me Burr Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He hasn't exactly lit up the AHL but hopefully he's one of those players whose abilities become apparent when he's playing with better, smarter players. We know he hasn't carried a line or done anything to suggest that he is not a one dimensional talent that needs insulation. I think this is a plague that the Canucks have too much of as it is on the top 6. This runtish, softish, perimeter player has no place on the Canucks. He will get an opportunity to play with solid, eager players at camp and if he doesn't shine I would expect a trade or for the team to move in a new direction. If he does well and starts the season at center in place of Kesler it will only serve to increase his value in trade, but in no way will he maintain a roster position on the Canucks for any length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 ^ How do you know he's not going to stick for any length of time? If he doesn't make the NHL then I really hope he's given the 1st line centre spot on the Wolves. For whatever reason, even though he was the most skilled centre on the Wolves last year, Coach McTavish insisted on spreading out the talent so he was always centering the 2nd line or even the 3rd line at times. If he's given an opportunity to center the 1st line, I imagine he'd be playing between two veteran AHL talents in Brett Sterling and Darren Haydar. Or, if he has more chemistry with the likes of Anton Rodin or Bill Sweatt, make one of those guys get the top line LW and shift Sterling down. Haydar, though, is a 1st line mainstay and I think him and Schroeder could make things happen. Rodin - Schroeder - Haydar Sterling - _______ - Gordon Sweatt - Friesen - Pinizzotto Archibald - Schneider - Davies ^Pretty decent lineup. All it needs is a decent 2nd line centre. Who knows, maybe Mallet shows enough of a skill/grit mix to take over that spot. If not, I could see him taking the 4th line LW spot if Archibald bombs again. Looks like a decent roster. I hope to see Schneider nowhere near the lineup though. Would much rather have Matson centering that line instead. My goodness what a waste of a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hoepfully he makes it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hoepfully he makes it this year. I wouldn't be opposed to that, as long as he earns his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipp0130 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 If he can use his size to his advantage and be physical and score 25 goals a season I would be happy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Stop getting sucked into the number attached to the line. If he plays against the other teams top line every single time they're out in a defensive role he certainly wouldn't be playing 15min. If he plays on the top PP and top PK unit he's definitely not getting 15min. What are you saying... Are you seriously trying to say that Kesler should be a third line centre and somehow he still gets 20 minutes a game? What do you mean stop being sucked into the numbers attached to the line.... it's there for a reason. There's 60 minutes in a game. Explain to me how you give third line 20 minutes a game. Or... do you just mean that Kesler should play 20 minutes a game, but we will just "call" it the third line? Ok. call it 4th line for all i care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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