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Dreamers.

If he is next to yawn in the AHL why expect more in the NHL?

Nevermind any of that, wtf use do the Canucks have with ANOTHER Raymond type top 9 player???

For the love of god, please no more. Ever hear of the playoffs people, where these guys are liabilities on a team sorely lacking a push back?

Sure, I get it. He's the underdog and humans eat that shyt up, but the reality is that we dont need this kind of addition to the team. In fact, he is exactly the kind of player we have too many of. What we do lack is a physical force to insulate the skill with, not Jordan ho-hum Schrodosmurf.

This guy does not help the team round the corner in the playoffs.

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Dreamers.

If he is next to yawn in the AHL why expect more in the NHL?

Nevermind any of that, wtf use do the Canucks have with ANOTHER Raymond type top 9 player???

For the love of god, please no more. Ever hear of the playoffs people, where these guys are liabilities on a team sorely lacking a push back?

Sure, I get it. He's the underdog and humans eat that shyt up, but the reality is that we dont need this kind of addition to the team. In fact, he is exactly the kind of player we have too many of. What we do lack is a physical force to insulate the skill with, not Jordan ho-hum Schrodosmurf.

This guy does not help the team round the corner in the playoffs.

With Kassian, Jensen, and Gaunce coming up, there's definitely muscle in the Canucks future. Schroeder is a high-skilled centremen which the canucks will need down the road when the Sedins retire in a few years.

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Yea, lets pass up on a potential Cammalleri type player, because we have a couple smaller players on our team. Genious.

Centers with Schroeder's hockey IQ and passing ability don't come around all the time. What he lacks in size and strength, he makes up for in speed and awareness. He has an amazing wrist shot, can run a powerplay, and can even pk now.

The Canucks would be dumb to not at least see what this guy can bring at the NHL level. At the very least they should be trying to turn him into an asset we can trade for value.

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Dreamers.

If he is next to yawn in the AHL why expect more in the NHL?

Nevermind any of that, wtf use do the Canucks have with ANOTHER Raymond type top 9 player???

For the love of god, please no more. Ever hear of the playoffs people, where these guys are liabilities on a team sorely lacking a push back?

Sure, I get it. He's the underdog and humans eat that shyt up, but the reality is that we dont need this kind of addition to the team. In fact, he is exactly the kind of player we have too many of. What we do lack is a physical force to insulate the skill with, not Jordan ho-hum Schrodosmurf.

This guy does not help the team round the corner in the playoffs.

You do realize his numbers are similar to Cody Hodgsons when he was in the AHL right? AHL success doesn't equal NHL success. Guys like Keith Aucoin, Krog, and Haydar should be examples of that.

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Smaller guys take longer to develop. I knew when he was drafted that he'd require a long time to develop perhaps 2-3 years in the minors, maybe even a fourth. Adjusting to professional hockey from college hockey is a big transition.

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He'll be the top center for the Wolves this year. Looking forward to seeing him rip it up with Kassian!

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People ripping on his playoff performance before he's made the bigtime is pretty laughable. True, being small is rarely an asset, but does anyone remember Camalleri's playoff performance for the Habs a couple years ago? Or St Louis' consistent play in the regular season and playoffs? I'd say it's more about compete levels than size. I'd rather take a pumped up little guy over a hulking monster that can't take it up a notch or two when it counts.

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Yea, lets pass up on a potential Cammalleri type player, because we have a couple smaller players on our team. Genious.

Centers with Schroeder's hockey IQ and passing ability don't come around all the time. What he lacks in size and strength, he makes up for in speed and awareness. He has an amazing wrist shot, can run a powerplay, and can even pk now.

The Canucks would be dumb to not at least see what this guy can bring at the NHL level. At the very least they should be trying to turn him into an asset we can trade for value.

Martin St Louis was cut by the Ottawa Senators in his first camp, then signed with Calgary and we all know how little he is, and how big he has played....size doesn't matter, its speed, skill strength, Schroeder has all of those, so his success is up to him and the oppty.

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I think as long as he's not paired with smallish/soft wingers he should be fine in the NHL

I'd have loved to see this

Sedin Sedin Burrows

Higgins Kesler Hansen

Booth Schroeder Kassian

Lapierre Malholtra Raymond/Pinozotto

IMO Booth would benefit more from a playmaking centre.

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New article in the Province on him.

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/09/23/if-nhl-season-isnt-lost-to-lockout-this-may-be-perfect-storm-for-schroeder/

VANCOUVER — In the spring of 2011 when the Manitoba Moose were eliminated from the AHL playoffs, the Vancouver Canucks summoned a number of players. Jordan Schroeder was not one of them. Quite frankly, he didn’t deserve to be because he struggled to make the tough transition from college to pro.

In the fall of 2012, the diminutive centre deserves a shot at sticking in NHL should the season not be lost to a lockout. After a 21-goal season with the Chicago Wolves and growing his game with and without the puck to become more confident than concerned about meeting first-round 2009 draft pick expectations, Schroeder may help help solve a riddle in the middle.

“I know in his exit meetings with [Canucks assistant general manager] Lorne Henning and [Wolves coach] Craig MacTavish that they sort of hinted to him that he probably deserved to come up to the NHL during the last season, but circumstances didn’t make it happen,” said Canucks coach Alain Vigneault. “But he’s pretty high on our list.”

Pretty high for a number of reasons. With Ryan Kesler sidelined until December by offseason shoulder and wrist surgeries and unrestricted free agent Samme Pahlsson returning to his native Sweden to play for Modo before suffering an Achilles rupture, the Canucks must get creative. Especially if a new collective bargaining agreement significantly reduces the salary cap ceiling and a veteran isn’t added via free agency. It’s not just the perfect storm for Schroeder — his NHL cap hit would be just $1.025 million US — but it would also repay the minor-league tutelage of Scott Arniel, Claude Noel and MacTavish. And playing for Arniel in Chicago while awaiting an NHL resolution will only improve his learning curve.

“I’m trying not to put a lot of pressure on myself, although it’s kind of hard not to,” admitted Schroeder, who turns 22 Saturday and has yet to play an NHL regular-season game. “When my time and opportunity comes, I’m going to try and grab it. My confidence is pretty good right now and I’m comfortable now being a pro.”

It wasn’t always that way. Self-doubt surfaces when you’re the 22nd pick in 2009 who had to grow out of his University of Minnesota comfort zone — much like Cory Schneider had to do after leaving Boston College — and mature. By getting better with and without the puck, he might make it as a third-line NHL centre because Schroeder shed the peripheral-player label and will be more effective if he attacks and doesn’t wait for Grade A chances or open nets. The attitude adjustment turned around a slow start in which Schroeder had just five goals in his first 24 games last season.

“I learned the small things about being a pro and what it takes every single night,” said Schroeder. “Coach MacTavish really helped me being responsible on the defensive side and from there the offence kind of came. I was a plus-10, but one area was shooting the puck more and I had almost 100 more shots than I did a year ago. I feel like I could have been close to 30 goals with the opportunities I had.

“I’m really trying to improve on burying the puck. You’ve got to work to get in front of the net and get some tips and some dirty goals. The skilled plays are going to come when they’re there. Everybody is so good at the next level that the small details stand out.”

Standing out is harder when you’re 5-foot-8. However, Schroeder doesn’t have to look far for inspiration in Minnesota native and close friend Zach Parise. He played just 13 games two seasons ago after being sidelined by knee surgery and then responded with a 31-goal season that earned a free-agent windfall, a 13-year, $98 million deal from the Wild. Parise is 5-foot-11 and 185 pounds but plays much bigger and tougher.

“I’ve got to use my speed to create offence,” said Schroeder. “And use my smarts. I’m not going out-physical anyone, but I’m pretty strong on my skates and I can handle myself in the corners. I don’t want to get tied up. I want to be free and loose and move out there as much as possible.”

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Jordan Schroeder or Brendan Gallagher?

hmmmmm... a player with almost 200 games of pro experience and leading scorer of the American WJHC.... or a player who was a 5th round pick.

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“I’m really trying to improve on burying the puck. You’ve got to work to get in front of the net and get some tips and some dirty goals. The skilled plays are going to come when they’re there. Everybody is so good at the next level that the small details stand out.

That's what I like to hear from a skilled prospect like him - he realizes that at this level, everyone is skilled and it's unlikely that he'll reach that level with skill (likes of the Sedins, Datsyuk, Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Stamkos, St. Louis, etc), and that it is those little things that will make the difference for him and make him succeed in the NHL.

Though, I think he has the potential to be a good top 6 player, I don't think he'll be a superstar as those above mentioned. And the way to become a top 6 player is to pay attention to those details - that's what sets apart good top 6 players from mediocre ones.

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I don't think we should write off Billy Sweatt either. His partnership with Schroeder looks almost Sedin like. Sweatt got a chance last season but I think it was a bit early for him...........and I think he will have learned a lot from the chance.

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I don't think we should write off Billy Sweatt either. His partnership with Schroeder looks almost Sedin like. Sweatt got a chance last season but I think it was a bit early for him...........and I think he will have learned a lot from the chance.

Yea, Sweatt and Schroeder had unreal chemistry. They both compliment each other very well.

Sweatt just needs to work on his defensive game a bit more and get some more finish. He would have had way more points than he did if he could just bury the puck more often.

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