Jaku Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I hope Jordan turns out to be a good second liner. He will develop, but you have to give him time. He had a really hard jump from junior to pro hockey. Jumping from AHL to NHL for him will be another big jump, hopefully he starts putting up killer numbers with the wolves, and hopefully he adjusts well when he gets into the NHL. All we can do is wait to see how he does over the next year or so here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schroeder's Too Short Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Schroeder made the front page of AHL.com today with a link to a good article on his upcoming season: http://blogs.theprov...-for-schroeder/ VANCOUVER — In the spring of 2011 when the Manitoba Moose were eliminated from the AHL playoffs, the Vancouver Canucks summoned a number of players. Jordan Schroeder was not one of them. Quite frankly, he didn’t deserve to be because he struggled to make the tough transition from college to pro. In the fall of 2012, the diminutive centre deserves a shot at sticking in NHL should the season not be lost to a lockout. After a 21-goal season with the Chicago Wolves and growing his game with and without the puck to become more confident than concerned about meeting first-round 2009 draft pick expectations, Schroeder may help help solve a riddle in the middle. “I know in his exit meetings with [Canucks assistant general manager] Lorne Henning and [Wolves coach] Craig MacTavish that they sort of hinted to him that he probably deserved to come up to the NHL during the last season, but circumstances didn’t make it happen,” said Canucks coach Alain Vigneault. “But he’s pretty high on our list.” Pretty high for a number of reasons. With Ryan Kesler sidelined until December by offseason shoulder and wrist surgeries and unrestricted free agent Samme Pahlsson returning to his native Sweden to play for Modo before suffering an Achilles rupture, the Canucks must get creative. Especially if a new collective bargaining agreement significantly reduces the salary cap ceiling and a veteran isn’t added via free agency. It’s not just the perfect storm for Schroeder — his NHL cap hit would be just $1.025 million US — but it would also repay the minor-league tutelage of Scott Arniel, Claude Noel and MacTavish. And playing for Arniel in Chicago while awaiting an NHL resolution will only improve his learning curve. “I’m trying not to put a lot of pressure on myself, although it’s kind of hard not to,” admitted Schroeder, who turns 22 Saturday and has yet to play an NHL regular-season game. “When my time and opportunity comes, I’m going to try and grab it. My confidence is pretty good right now and I’m comfortable now being a pro.” It wasn’t always that way. Self-doubt surfaces when you’re the 22nd pick in 2009 who had to grow out of his University of Minnesota comfort zone — much like Cory Schneider had to do after leaving Boston College — and mature. By getting better with and without the puck, he might make it as a third-line NHL centre because Schroeder shed the peripheral-player label and will be more effective if he attacks and doesn’t wait for Grade A chances or open nets. The attitude adjustment turned around a slow start in which Schroeder had just five goals in his first 24 games last season. “I learned the small things about being a pro and what it takes every single night,” said Schroeder. “Coach MacTavish really helped me being responsible on the defensive side and from there the offence kind of came. I was a plus-10, but one area was shooting the puck more and I had almost 100 more shots than I did a year ago. I feel like I could have been close to 30 goals with the opportunities I had. “I’m really trying to improve on burying the puck. You’ve got to work to get in front of the net and get some tips and some dirty goals. The skilled plays are going to come when they’re there. Everybody is so good at the next level that the small details stand out.” Standing out is harder when you’re 5-foot-8. However, Schroeder doesn’t have to look far for inspiration in Minnesota native and close friend Zach Parise. He played just 13 games two seasons ago after being sidelined by knee surgery and then responded with a 31-goal season that earned a free-agent windfall, a 13-year, $98 million deal from the Wild. Parise is 5-foot-11 and 185 pounds but plays much bigger and tougher. “I’ve got to use my speed to create offence,” said Schroeder. “And use my smarts. I’m not going out-physical anyone, but I’m pretty strong on my skates and I can handle myself in the corners. I don’t want to get tied up. I want to be free and loose and move out there as much as possible.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I think as long as he's not paired with smallish/soft wingers he should be fine in the NHL I'd have loved to see this Sedin Sedin Burrows Higgins Kesler Hansen Booth Schroeder Kassian Lapierre Malholtra Raymond/Pinozotto IMO Booth would benefit more from a playmaking centre. Those are terrific lines, but would rather see this Sedin Sedin Kassian (He can use his size, speed to open space, protects the puck well/cycles well and has hands. Also just a reminder to the Keith's of the NHL) Higgins Kesler Burrows (let burrows be the playmaker on this line, he has spent so much time with hank and dank that he's learning to be a pretty good playmaker, lose a bit of chemistry on the first line but also put Kassian in the role he needs to learn to assume, that of the leader, and who better to learn from). Booth Schroeder Hansen Lappy Manny Pinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bite me Burr Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Yea, lets pass up on a potential Cammalleri type player, because we have a couple smaller players on our team. Genious. Centers with Schroeder's hockey IQ and passing ability don't come around all the time. What he lacks in size and strength, he makes up for in speed and awareness. He has an amazing wrist shot, can run a powerplay, and can even pk now. The Canucks would be dumb to not at least see what this guy can bring at the NHL level. At the very least they should be trying to turn him into an asset we can trade for value. In an imaginary NHL, or even an AHL, where this guy has done something noteworthy, in a land far far away... or, I have a dream. Waive your pom poms all you want, guys, giver er, but admit that he is nothing more than your combined well wishing. Admit that this guy doesnt make the team better and that it is very possible, if not very likely, that he makes the 3rd line a liability at center in the playoffs. What business does this skill set have playing that role in the NHL on a team set to push for the cup? Exactly not the right guy for the job, however you may disagree. Wellwood 2.0 anyone? Now there was a miserable experience and a lesson in the underdog fanfare. Possibly the worst checking line C in the history of the NHL. Sure, maybe in a few years between Jensen and Kassian, bla bla bla, where the elves run free with the dreams of hockey fans, there is a place for him on a Canuck roster. As for now, absolutely not if this is a cup team. Forgive my lack of desire to debate this. It is what it is no matter how hard you waive those pom poms. I will waive them for him, as an AHLer, but not on this years roster, that may have to get through Chara to hold up the cup. There are better options out there, at least admit that before you guys mention St Loius and the rest of the little train that could crap. How very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 For the record, Wellwood never checked the opponent's best lines. That was Kesler who took that role, who is most effective when he's relied on to shut guys down, not offense-first. And I don't think AV is going to match Schroeder - a rookie - up against the other team's top line. So the number 3 really means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bite me Burr Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 For the record, Wellwood never checked the opponent's best lines. That was Kesler who took that role, who is most effective when he's relied on to shut guys down, not offense-first. And I don't think AV is going to match Schroeder - a rookie - up against the other team's top line. So the number 3 really means nothing. so, this revelation of yours equates to something good for the roster? That a wasted, critical roster spot is, is good gawd man... why... and Id so rather not have a limping Kesler in May, for a change. Playing Kesler against Getzlaf and Koivu seems like a heck plan. Lets hope he spends most of his time blocking shots and "checking". Brilliant. Of course, this would be your solution as you're seemingly well aware that it would be unwise to do this with the actual 3rd line pivot, Schrod. Keep in mind that there are options to smallish, softish, inexperienced, kinda-skilled centers to fill the gutsy third line C. They're out there! While this team is cresting it is important to secure the best role players possible and not repeat history making the same mistakes at center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canvoucer Vanuck Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 so, this revelation of yours equates to something good for the roster? That a wasted, critical roster spot is, is good gawd man... why... and Id so rather not have a limping Kesler in May, for a change. Playing Kesler against Getzlaf and Koivu seems like a heck plan. Lets hope he spends most of his time blocking shots and "checking". Brilliant. Of course, this would be your solution as you're seemingly well aware that it would be unwise to do this with the actual 3rd line pivot, Schrod. Keep in mind that there are options to smallish, softish, inexperienced, kinda-skilled centers to fill the gutsy third line C. They're out there! While this team is cresting it is important to secure the best role players possible and not repeat history making the same mistakes at center. Kesler had no issue in that shutdown role before, and he was tied for 10th among centers in even strength points. For just a "checking" centre, that's elite production. He put up 75 points overall to boot. Why wouldn't you use him in the role he's best suited for? Once his hip is all healed up, there's no reason to expect him to be limping by May every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 He should be able to dominate in the AHL this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 RNH should dominate the AHL this year. Schroeder should excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 ^ Still hoping for the former though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alex Burrows 14 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I think schroeder played good last night but he is not the best playing d on the power play. he is good in the offensive zone but not defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Schroeder is typically a slow starter. He should shine under Arniel though. I'm not too worried. Look for him to bounce back strong next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think as long as he's not paired with smallish/soft wingers he should be fine in the NHL I'd have loved to see this Sedin Sedin Burrows Higgins Kesler Hansen Booth Schroeder Kassian Lapierre Malholtra Raymond/Pinozotto IMO Booth would benefit more from a playmaking centre. I agree with your statement but I'm just not as optimistic as you that he can play at the NHL level. Hopefully I'm proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 would be very nice if he become our version of Clauide Giroux...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAN HARNETT Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 would be very nice if he become our version of Clauide Giroux...... No chance. He will be very lucky if he becomes an NHL regular. After watching both games over the weekend, he barely looked liked he belonged in the AHL. His speed is average but his hands are decent. Going into his third season, he should be showing signs that he's ready to make the jump, however, it seems he's just spinning his wheels and not monving forward in his development. He could of had an assist on Rodins goal that was called back though. I hope he turns it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackAttack-9 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Schroeder seems to have slow starts. Last year, MacT went to him as his go to guy in a place (CHI) where they want to win/compete now. Dont forget last years stretch drive when Schroeder hit 20 mins in all situations. The frigging microscope is focused so much especially now with the lockout. He's not minus player. Aint to 8-5 games like the ones CoHo is racking up assists in thatnks to the AHL goal leader Foligno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Did Schroeder actually play that bad during these 5 games? As far as the first 3 games, I've heard nothing but good things about him. I watched games 4 and 5 and he did seem noticable, just not hitting the scoresheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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