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#2641 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:13 PM

And for those who are still writting him off due to size:

Schroeder - 5'9 - 179

P.Kane - 5'11 - 181

Baertschi - 5'11 - 189

Parise - 5'11 - 195

Ennis - 5'9 - 157

Gerbe - 5'5 - 178

Eberle - 5'11 - 184


Should I go on? All of them are NHL Regulars, some star players. (with the exception of Baertschi who I threw in cause everyone loves him).

If he could get up to about 185 he will be fine (the more the better). And maybe he will grow an inch? I think Kane was 5'10 last year then he grew a bit so maybe JS will too.

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 10 November 2012 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

^^^ The problem is all them players are wingers not centers. I do agree JS will make the NHL but I think it will be as a winger not a center. IMO JS is the perfect player to have on a line at R-wing with kesler-booth due to JS speed.skill and playmaking i think it would be a lethal line for us.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:15 PM

You know it's a sad state of the game is in when people are worrying about size again. Unfortunate, and it shouldn't have to be this way. The skill element has all been pushed out by obstruction, interference etc.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:16 PM

Btw, remember when people thought Hodgson-Schroeder would be our own poor man's version of Toews-Kane? Good times.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:18 PM

Btw, remember when people thought Hodgson-Schroeder would be our own poor man's version of Toews-Kane? Good times.


haha I remember quite a few threads mentioning that way back when
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:38 PM

Um no...

Tyler Ennis is a center...if you recall he centered Buffalo's top line for a while with Foligno and Stafford on wing.

Nathan Gerbe is a natural center but so happens plays wing on the Sabres.

At points of last season Parise and Kane were both called upon to be pivots as well for a short reasonable amount of time. Jordan Schroeder proved he is not as effective as a winger. They already tried testing him there when playing in Manitoba and was less productive as a winger.
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:47 PM

Schroeder is different than all of those players because he doesn't have the same amount of speed. He's decent, but it will be fairly average in the NHL. I remember watching Schroeder play back when he was with the Gophers, and say that he was more like a Derek Roy. The problem we are seeing is that, he is also lacking the intensity of those smaller players that are listed. Though, i do believe he'll have a stint with the Canucks, i think he won't reach his maximum potential until he goes over to the east or a weaker team. The Canucks are soft enough with the twins, and because of that, it doesn't seem make sense to add a forward like Schroeder in the top six.

Edited by Rey, 10 November 2012 - 09:50 PM.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

there are actually 2 that haven't played a regular season game in the NHL
Chris Kreider - taken 3 before us by the Rags (technically played in the playoffs, so I guess that counts)
Philippe Paradis, the hurricanes prospect taken 5 spots behind us at 27th overall

also, there are 3 players who have played less than 5 games, Scott Glennie (1 game, dallas, 8th), Calvin de Haan (1, Iles, 12th), and Peter Holland, (4, Anaheim,15th)


Philippe Paradis was a waste of a pick and everyone knew it at the time he was selected. There was no reason for him to be selected in the 1st round. Schroeder looked like a top 10 player with plenty of potential, who just had a great season in his first year of collect as a under ager.

Scott Glennie is a bust under the circumstances. It's usually what happens in junior when player's play with top end talent. Brayden Schenn clearly made Glennie look good.

Svensson looked like has turning out to be a keeper, but Edmonton destroyed the kids confidence by putting him in the NHL too soon.

Ryan Ellis probably won't live up to what he was suppose to be. I always said the guy was overrated, at the time of the draft, there were people wanting him in the top 5. Insane stuff.

Krieder was a mystery kid playing in high school that was absolutely dominating Gretzky style, and didn't even produce that well playing in college, but it's his tools that will make him a big time player in the NHL.

David Savard was thought to be in this group, but dropped down to the 4th round has developed nicely. There's was risk because QMJHL wasn't hasn't been exactly the best place in developing defense man.

there's just too much unpredictability in drafts and every year we'll have different points of views of the players but it's really hard to argue that Schroeder was a bad pick, since at the time. his potential was huge.

Edited by Rey, 10 November 2012 - 10:01 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:09 AM

Goal by Schroedr against the Admirals. Only video I could find.

Nice stick handling by Rodin to set him up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjfwM4Yp8pY


Sick hands by Rodin there as well!

Edited by SEAN HARNETT, 11 November 2012 - 03:10 AM.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:53 PM

Sick hands by Rodin there as well!


:shock: Holy Bejezus that was some stick dangles. 3 on 1 and they can't get it away from him.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:57 PM

If there is a battle for Kesler's spot, it's between Ebbett and Schroeder, and Schroeder currently has the lead.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:53 AM

If there is a battle for Kesler's spot, it's between Ebbett and Schroeder, and Schroeder currently has the lead.


I hope, I wouldn't want Ebbett anywhere near the second line spot lol. He's a third liner at best.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

For all the hype around Lack, Connauton, and Kassian, Schroeder has probably been the best of the canucks prospects through 12 games.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:56 PM

For all the hype around Lack, Connauton, and Kassian, Schroeder has probably been the best of the canucks prospects through 12 games.


Not for the first 6.

But for the last 6 - he has been leaps and bounds the best.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:00 PM

^^^ The problem is all them players are wingers not centers. I do agree JS will make the NHL but I think it will be as a winger not a center. IMO JS is the perfect player to have on a line at R-wing with kesler-booth due to JS speed.skill and playmaking i think it would be a lethal line for us.


Ennis is a center (and he's only 157). Kane was playing center last year for a long stretch, Gerbe is a natural center aswell as wing.

But I do think using him on RW would be nice, but either way I think there are examples to show if he works hard enough at getting better he can be an NHL player at either position.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:03 PM

Ennis is a center (and he's only 157). Kane was playing center last year for a long stretch, Gerbe is a natural center aswell as wing.

But I do think using him on RW would be nice, but either way I think there are examples to show if he works hard enough at getting better he can be an NHL player at either position.


Schroeder did play parts of last season as a winger - it did not go well.

But, that may change when he has two NHL players (Booth and Kesler) rather than 2 AHL players.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:08 PM

Schroeder did play parts of last season as a winger - it did not go well.

But, that may change when he has two NHL players (Booth and Kesler) rather than 2 AHL players.


Then start him at 3rd line center, he has really been working on his defensive game and playing with Hansen and Higgins/Raymond + 2nd PP time would be a good spot for him offensively (Basicly what Coho got last year)
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:12 PM

Then start him at 3rd line center, he has really been working on his defensive game and playing with Hansen and Higgins/Raymond + 2nd PP time would be a good spot for him offensively (Basicly what Coho got last year)


I agree - that is the way to go.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

I agree - that is the way to go.


Yeah although I do think if he could ever figure out how to play RW successfully.

With his speed, playmaking ability and offensive skillset, he could be good with Kesler and Booth.

Ah well one can hope.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:21 PM

He did well when playing on the wing with a good offensive centre in Hodgson - hopefully he'll be productive as well if put at RW with Kesler. Other than that though, I have no problem with him being 3C where he's already very comfortable.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:38 PM

The thing is, Schroeder is a setup guy. He can only get points if his linemates finish off his passes.

So him not piling up the points is just a testament to the lack of offense on the Wolves.

They are currently 15th in the league for goals for, and last season they were 16th. So their offensive problems really haven't been solved, and having their captain do nothing isn't helping either.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

The thing is, Schroeder is a setup guy. He can only get points if his linemates finish off his passes.

So him not piling up the points is just a testament to the lack of offense on the Wolves.


If his linemates can't finish, then it's up to him to start being more selfish and shoot more, which is what happened last season, and what he needs to keep doing IMO. Even with Kassian on his line.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:09 PM

If his linemates can't finish, then it's up to him to start being more selfish and shoot more, which is what happened last season, and what he needs to keep doing IMO. Even with Kassian on his line.


I agree he definitely needs to shoot more. He's got a wicked wrister that he doesn't use enough.

His problem seems to be getting in a position to shoot though. He's gotta get better at moving laterally and getting around defenders to get in better positions.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:56 PM

It's good seeing Schroeder produce some points!
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:22 PM

Schroeder is different than all of those players because he doesn't have the same amount of speed. He's decent, but it will be fairly average in the NHL. I remember watching Schroeder play back when he was with the Gophers, and say that he was more like a Derek Roy. The problem we are seeing is that, he is also lacking the intensity of those smaller players that are listed. Though, i do believe he'll have a stint with the Canucks, i think he won't reach his maximum potential until he goes over to the east or a weaker team. The Canucks are soft enough with the twins, and because of that, it doesn't seem make sense to add a forward like Schroeder in the top six.


What?? No speed? no speed and short is a bad combination. I swear, Jordan Schroeder was the 2nd fastest straight ahead skater in the 2009 draft behind Magnus Paajarvi.

Anyways, I took a picture with him one time. Jordan Schroeder. I am 5'8. I was clearly taller then Schroeder by at least 1.5 Inch. I'm sorry to say, he's not 5'9. It's exaggerated.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

He is not makIng the NHL and neither is Rodin. Epic fail.

Luongo
Shcroeder
Rodin

For

Bjugstad
Clemensen
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:57 PM

He is not makIng the NHL and neither is Rodin. Epic fail.

Luongo
Shcroeder
Rodin

For

Bjugstad
Clemensen
3rd

Burrows.
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