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#871 avelanch

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 06:17 AM

For the guy who posts the most on the prospect forum.....you dont lose a year on your contract if you dont play in the NHL. Remember the nine games rule?

Im not saying he is going to be a shutdown guy, but when he is exposed by "children" as you so politely called it, I definately think he needs to refine his game in his own end to become better.

Logging 30 in the WHL to me seems more beneficial than logging 15 in the AHL, with most of it on the PP....he isnt good enough to log more at the PRO level yet.

Temper you expectations, or you'll be sorely dissapointed.

he's 20 now, he burns a year no matter what (maybe you missed that rule that I've posted NUMEROUS times in this thread alone), the push on the contract is only for those under 20 as of dec 31. And 30 min a game in the WHL will not be better than 15-20 in the AHL, not even close. he's not exposed nearly as often as you like to claim, and he's better defensively than you imply. The AHL is the best step, and the WHL would be a waste.

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 07:45 AM

I think a big factor in all of this is what happens with Arniel. If he gets an NHL gig, it would depend who's his replacement. If it someone who's good with developing young defensemen then it should be a no-brainer to send him to the Moose.

Playing 30 minutes per game in the WHL makes no sense unless you're training him to log huge minutes. It's all about the skill set of the players he's going against. He's experienced the WHL level, he needs to play against men to find out ways to offset his defensive liabilities.
He also needs to work on his offense against AHL level goaltending.

I think he'd have to have an abysmal training camp to be sent back to the WHL.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 08:23 AM

Does Connauton get top pair minutes against opposing top lines next year on the Moose?

I dont think so.

I would rather see him log 30+ minutes in all situations on the Giants, and actually show he can shut down people.

He hasnt been able to do that yet at the junior level, why would he at the PRO level?



Why does he need 30+ minutes of playing time? Let him get used to the faster pace of the game in the AHL, this will serve him much better than staying down in the minors. Start him out at 10-12 minutes per game and increase it as the season progresses. I call this developement, what you are doing is holding him back from learning the pace of the AHL. He already has an AHL/NHL shot from the blueline.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 02:37 PM

send mike green down to the AHL and he will get exposed at least once a game by a younger guy but that doesnt mean that he isn't good enough for the NHL. you want the kid to play to his strengths and his strength is his offense and to force him to focus on defense only would be asking him to change his game and put him out of his element. it's not like he can't defend at all because he is fairly good in his zone and is not as bad as people think he is. he will improve his defense playing in the AHL, when you are pushed you have no choice but to push back and in the WHL he will not be pushed hard enough for him to improve. Kevin needs to make the jump to the pro ranks now either with moose or Salmon kings because there's not much more he can do with the Giants.


THe point of acutally being a defenseman is to defend his goalie and stop any opponents to score on the ur own net. yes Connauton isn't the only to do it but if he wants to play a offensive roll and forget about the defensive roll than he would be better off being a forward. Yes you play people to their strengths Im not going to argue about that because you are right. The AHL and the WHL are two different types of leauges, skill level, and a whole different experience. Will he adjust well or terrible, who knows? Connauton could improve his play in his own end in any league it doesn't really make sense why it would be bad to stick him in the G for an another year. Throwing him into the AHL and also trying to improve his defensive work is like throwing him into the fire. I love this guy, I see this guy being the next Jovo Cop due to his size, speed,mobility and skills to play both offensively and defensively with a edge to his game. It really depends how he plays in training camp and how much he has learned with the Gman. I personally don't care where he plays,just as long he plays in a canucks uniform soon.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 05:08 PM

I agree with the sentiment that at this stage, it's better for Kevin to start learning the pro game if he could cut it in the AHL. 15 mins a night with PP time is fine by me. Offensively he has dominated the dub and defensively he's adequate (from all accounts).

Also, I would NOT want to see Kevin end up in the ECHL under ANY circumstance. The moose will not have many veteran D next year and if Kevin still can't cut it it is not a good sign. When was the last time a half decent prospect anywhere toiled in the ECHL for anytime longer than a conditioning stint?

Edler, Bourdon, Bieksa and even McIver jumped straight to the AHL after they finished Junior or College. NO to ECHL.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 05:27 PM

I agree with the sentiment that at this stage, it's better for Kevin to start learning the pro game if he could cut it in the AHL. 15 mins a night with PP time is fine by me. Offensively he has dominated the dub and defensively he's adequate (from all accounts).

Also, I would NOT want to see Kevin end up in the ECHL under ANY circumstance. The moose will not have many veteran D next year and if Kevin still can't cut it it is not a good sign. When was the last time a half decent prospect anywhere toiled in the ECHL for anytime longer than a conditioning stint?

Edler, Bourdon, Bieksa and even McIver jumped straight to the AHL after they finished Junior or College. NO to ECHL.

McIver doesn't look like much of a future NHLer but I do agree with your point.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 05:36 PM

just slow cook him in the AHL like detroit does with their prospects... imo best way to refine his defensive game.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 05:39 PM

I'd rather not have him in junior another year, the AHL is a developmental league.
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Posted 30 April 2010 - 05:47 PM

McIver doesn't look like much of a future NHLer but I do agree with your point.


Well at one point he was considered a potential bottom pairing dman. You are right though he doesn't look like an NHL player now, that's why I said "even" McIver went straight to the AHL lol.
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Posted 17 May 2010 - 09:53 PM

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 10:10 PM

Nice vid, that's an unbelievable season right there.

Damn he's going to be good.
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Posted 17 May 2010 - 10:21 PM

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnGSoc-x2C4"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ZnGSoc-x2C4[/url]


Love it. Super stoked to see him again in camp this year!
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Posted 17 May 2010 - 11:32 PM

Great Video!!!!! Man we could use Kevin as our PP quarterback, he is a shoot first kind of guy, looks to have a knack for getting his shots through and has a good slapper and wrister. Canucks need more of his mentality, get the shot off fast and on net.

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Posted 18 May 2010 - 05:20 AM

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnGSoc-x2C4"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ZnGSoc-x2C4[/url]


Even though its too early to tell if he will be able to translate this play to the NHL its quite obvious he has the hockey sense and doesn't shy away from fighting neither. I see Gillis pushing for a top 4 dman which will eat up a good portion of the cap space so that will probably leave a spot open on the back end and if Connauton comes into camp looking like this, he's got my vote Posted Image
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 05:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnGSoc-x2C4


Nice clips....
On a side note, why do a lot of videos tend to use a crappy song for the background?
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 07:58 AM

Nice clips....
On a side note, why do a lot of videos tend to use a crappy song for the background?

Because opinions and taste in music are like a$$holes, everyone's got one, and they all stink (except mine, it smells amazing).
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 09:44 AM

From that video, and what I have read on here, it seems like he is turning into an early Ehrhoff. Ehrhoff was never a plus player (til this year) but he can move and lead the rush, as well as hit the net from the point, not just bury his head and get it off as hard as possible.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:47 AM

Because opinions and taste in music are like a$$holes, everyone's got one, and they all stink (except mine, it smells amazing).

you forgot to add and they all think their's is the best.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 11:13 AM

you forgot to add and they all think their's is the best.

That would be what the statement in the parenthesis was hinting at.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

Because opinions and taste in music are like a$$holes, everyone's got one, and they all stink (except mine, it smells amazing).





All I can say to that is I would watch my back. Sure glad mine stinks, keeps the guys that participate in the pride parade away from me.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 12:26 PM

All I can say to that is I would watch my back. Sure glad mine stinks, keeps the guys that participate in the pride parade away from me.

I'm pretty sure they don't care about the smell, heck some may even like it ripe, I wouldn't know. Besides, it's not like they are going to rape you.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 05:47 PM

I love at the end, when he's going past the bench an clapping his hands. Love it Posted Image
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 06:29 PM

That's impressive...he's showing lots of signs that he's got what it takes to be a real impact player for us one day.Props to the scouting staff for finding him and nabbing him with a third round pick.He could turn out to be one of the biggest steals of that draft.


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Posted 18 May 2010 - 08:58 PM

Great vid DeNiro!

Can't wait to see him in training camp. I hope he learns quick!
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Posted 20 May 2010 - 01:10 AM

I love at the end, when he's going past the bench an clapping his hands. Love it Posted Image


I think he was actually dusting off his hands, in mockery of the other team. Gotta love that attitude though!! Looks like he was a real impact blueliner this past year for the G-men, hope he keeps up his phenomenal improvement, especially on the defensive side of things!
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Posted 20 May 2010 - 09:13 PM

All I can say is this is the defenseman we've been looking for. Get the shots through so our forwards can worry solely on banging in rebounds rather than if they've got to back-check because Bieksa's pass just went 10 feet wide of the net and now its wringing around the boards and they've got a 2 on 1.
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Posted 21 May 2010 - 12:05 PM

All I can say is this is the defenseman we've been looking for. Get the shots through so our forwards can worry solely on banging in rebounds rather than if they've got to back-check because Bieksa's pass just went 10 feet wide of the net and now its wringing around the boards and they've got a 2 on 1.


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Posted 21 May 2010 - 12:08 PM

It's very difficult not to be overly hyped about this guy.

I hate the off season. It's nearly 3 months too long, and the playoffs aren't even over yet.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 12:34 AM

That video gave me goosebumps and I haven't even seen him play live... Can't wait :|
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 12:07 PM

I have been excited about this guy since camp-before anybody on here even knew about him.

He was a standout out of the so called "no names" that we had at camp. Offensively he looked like he belonged in the NHL. At the prospects game he scored 2 goals and added an assist as well. His defensive game is not where it needs to be but he can learn how to play defense. Technique and discipline will get him to where he needs to be. At that age, you can't teach offensive skills, or the "fundamentals" - skating, shooting, hockey sense etc. That is natural talent and he has it. He has the highest potential IMO out of our defensive prospects whereas I think Sauve has a higher chance of becoming a top 5 dman. Unfortunately, Ellington hasn't shown too much promise yet.

In a way he is similar to Oberg, although Oberg is a little more poised. One thing I don't like about Oberg is that he shoots wide a lot. Oberg doesn't have the physical edge of Connauton either. But really, they are different ages and it is tough to compare them until they are both playing in the AHL together.
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