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#1 User is offline   shimy1 Icon


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Posted 02 July 2009 - 06:47 PM

Hey guys,

So I was thinking about it today, and with all that has happened in the last 36hours or so and dependent on Lui signing you think we might be able to pull a deal like this off?

Schnieder to Atlanta for Bogosian.

So the way i see it, our defense needs much more work then our offense. Right not we have the Sedins burrows, Demitra, and Kesler as our top 6 with players like Bernier, and Raymond on the bubble. Next year I am hoping that at the very least one of Hodgson, Grabner, or perhaps Schroeder(unlikely) will make the team and if that's the case they should be at least getting 2nd line minutes.

Next lets move to the defense. With the passing of Bourdon, we have no top end talent back there, and after losing ohlund I think we are really going to be exposed next year. I was hoping we would be able to sign Jaybo, he would have been the prefect addition to the team but since we didn't, we have try other things.

Now to the proposed trade. From our side I look at this as a rearrangement of talent. Looking at the two players yes Cory is 4 or 5 years older the Bosogian, but in terms of development, they are both ready now to play in the NHL, and both could be potential impact players. Bosogian can play now on our defense and he would be awesome addition to the talent pool. From atlantas point of veiw, they are getting one of, if not the best goaltending prospects in the world, and not only is he good but he has already gone through a lot of development, so he is ready for them.

Downsides: Atlanta has Lehtonen and what seems to be a promising goaltending prospect in Pavelec. But I dont think Pavelec is as highly touted as Cory, and kari seems to have issues with injuries and other things, i.e. i remember hearing rumors of trouble with him a few years ago when the thrashers made the playoffs.

Sorry for the long post guys, i tried to make it well thought out for you. And I realise we might hav to give up more, then just Cory, but I don't think its far off.

What do you guys think? Is one for one fair? Would Atlanta do it? Would the Canucks need to add a player, (hanson, raymond etc.) or a pick(2nd or 3rd) to get this deal done?


Oh and if you don't think atlanta is a good trading partner, which young Bluechip defensive prospect do you think we could get for cory?

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:07 PM

Not a chance in hell would they give up Bogosian


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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:13 PM

Atlanta doesn't need goalies right now. If Lehtonen falters again, Pavelec is ready to take the challenge head on again.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:31 PM

View PostMarian Hossa, on Jul 2 2009, 08:13 PM, said:

Atlanta doesn't need goalies right now. If Lehtonen falters again, Pavelec is ready to take the challenge head on again.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:41 PM

what do you guys think is the best defensive prospect w could get with schnieder?
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:51 PM

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:02 PM

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:03 PM

View Postshimy1, on Jul 3 2009, 12:41 AM, said:

what do you guys think is the best defensive prospect w could get with schnieder?

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:44 PM

View PostMarian Hossa, on Jul 2 2009, 09:13 PM, said:

Atlanta doesn't need goalies right now. If Lehtonen falters again, Pavelec is ready to take the challenge head on again.


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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:45 PM

View PostKesler4Captain, on Jul 3 2009, 03:07 AM, said:

Not a chance in hell would they give up Bogosian

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 11:13 PM

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 11:14 PM

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 11:40 PM

View Postshimy1, on Jul 2 2009, 08:41 PM, said:

what do you guys think is the best defensive prospect w could get with schnieder?



i think your could get an offencive prospect from philly like JVR and then flip him for like alzner from washingtom or maybe barker from chicago. you need to find a team that is tight against the cap and needs a goalie that is cheap and has big up side and has solid defense and an solid prospect they could and would give you. there isnt to many to be had and dont listen to these guys about bogisani yes it would be a dumb move by atlanta to move him but they moved coburn for zhitnik its just they dont need a goalie prospect thats all.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 12:30 AM

thanks oceanchild for actually starting a discussion unlike 90% of the other posts.

getting an offensive prospect and flipping him is a very interesting thought. I don;t know if I would want alzner, i dont know that much about him though. As for barker, I thought about him but we could jsut offer sheet him. a 3 mill offer would cost us a second rounder and might be enough to get him from the hawks.

About the hawks, one interesting thing i saw, they have both toews and kane up for new contracts next year. So they are going to be really messed especially if the cap falls.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 07:55 AM

It might be overpayment but how about Schneider and Schroeder for Bogosian?
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:31 AM

A little to much maybe Schnider Schroder and Burrows for Armstrong, and Bogosoion. They will never do this trade :(
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 10:31 AM

why would atlanta want to make their team even worse they dont need a goalie

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:43 AM

View PostChenWei91, on Jul 2 2009, 10:44 PM, said:

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 11:53 AM

View Postshimy1, on Jul 2 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

Hey guys,

So I was thinking about it today, and with all that has happened in the last 36hours or so and dependent on Lui signing you think we might be able to pull a deal like this off?

Schnieder to Atlanta for Bogosian.


This is as far as I got reading this proposal.

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