[aaaa322]

No, Bert's day are over in Vancouver, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't wanna come back.

[canuckman090]

OBERG on D

[GrassyPonderous]

I made this proposal in another thread but I want to get some response on it, good or bad, just to see what people think:

First: Re-sign Luongo. If he is truly our goalie of now/future then hopefully Aquilini will be down for a Franzen/Zetterberg-like deal to get cap hit down. 10 yrs 60M (8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 6, 6, 4, 4)
Second: Re-sign Kesler. He is our heart and soul guy, probably our future captain. He has said he will stay here for a paycut, we all know he wants to be here. We need to get it done. He is a guy we will always want in our core, so here's the offer we make. 13 years, 49.4M for 3.8M cap hit(4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 2.2, 2.2) . His offensive potential is near it's ceiling, will rarely (if ever) top 30g and 70 points, just not his style. Can't argue with the Selke nomination though, sounds like a pretty solid 2nd line anchor to me. This is in the Bolland / Franzen neighborhood.

Trade 1:

To NJD: Schneider, Rights to Hansen, 3rd round pick in 2010
To VAN: Rights to Zajac

New Jersey might not be able to retain this guy given that they do not have a lot of players under contract. Plus, they need some hope behind Brodeur in the future (assuming Schneider holds trade value, despite being unproven at NHL level blah blah..).

Trade 2:

To CBJ: Bieksa, 4th round pick 2010, 3rd round pick 2011.
To VAN: Russel

CBJ needs immediate help on D, and they have John Moore as a prospect waiting to come up. As of RIGHT NOW (ignoring potential), Bieksa brings more to the plate than Russel with speed and grit and better defensive play (ignoring stupid mistakes). Plus the picks we send back sweeten the deal.

Sign Zajac 4 yrs 14M (3.5 per, slightly less than Krejci for similar numbers).
Sign Seidenberg 1 yr 2.5 (if possible, or whatever puck mover is available for 2.5M/seas).
Sign backup goalie plug for 500k.
Sign Foster 3yrs 4.8M (1.6 per)

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows (6.1 + 6.1 + 2 = 14.2)
Demitra - Zajac - Kesler (4 + 3.5 + 1.75 = 9.25)
Samuellson - Raymond - Bernier (2.5 + .883 + 2 = 5.483)
Hordichuk - Johnson - Rypien (.775 + 1.15 + .55 = 2.45)
Grabner, Plug (.843 + .500 = 1.343)

Forward total: 14.2 + 9.25 + 5.483 + 2.45 + 1.343 = 32.717

Mitchell Salo (3.5 + 3.5 = 7)
Edler Seidenberg (3.25 + 2.5 = 5.75)
Russel Foster (.750 + 1.6 = 2.35)
Rome (.550)

Defense total: 7 + 5.75 + 2.35 + .550 = 15.65

Luongo (6.75)
Plug (.500)

Goalie total: 7.25

Team total: 32.717 + 15.65 + 7.25 = 55.617.

We still have $1.183M cap space to deal with call-ups/injuries.

Open to flaming.

This post has been edited by GrassyPonderous: 03 July 2009 - 01:15 PM

[canuckman090]

not a bad post but, bieksa bring a physical element that i russel doesnt have. The D looks a little weak in the 6 and 7 spot

[GrassyPonderous]

canuckman090, on Jul 3 2009, 12:39 PM, said:

not a bad post but, bieksa bring a physical element that i russel doesnt have. The D looks a little weak in the 6 and 7 spot

Yeah that was one thing I didn't like about it, I actually have too many roster players up, and Oberg is probably not NHL ready. I like the proposals for Foster. If he could be signed for 3 yrs 4.8M (1.6 per) I would be OK with that.

EDIT: Also I like where this leaves us next year, we have Luongo at 6M (hopefully), a good deal for Kesler (long term too, 3.5-4M range). Lineup would sort of look like this:

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Kesler Zajac ____
Samuellson ___ Bernier
Hordichuk ___ Rypien

___ Salo
Edler ___
Foster ___

Need to re-sign: Russel
Can consider re-signing: Seidenberg, Mitchell (depends on price), Raymond.

Biggest gaps are on D, but in forward positions we will have guys like Hodgson and Grabner ready to fill those holes (hopefully), and maybe even Pat White on the 4th.

This post has been edited by GrassyPonderous: 03 July 2009 - 12:50 PM