[downer]

With the rumors that Luongo is looking near 8mil a season, I think its time for MG to look at moving him.

Either he gets resigned to a reasonable contract 6 - 6.5 over 5 years or we trade him. And it needs to happen this summer, or we'll lose him to UFA next year.

I think that Montreal will be the one of the only if not the only city he would be willing to waive his NTC for, coincidentally I think they have the best to offer in return considering we're losing an amazing goalie.

To Montreal:
Luongo
Hansen/Raymond

To Vancouver:
Price
Pacioretty
1st round pick 2010
1st round pick 2011
Conditional 3rd Round pick 2010 or 2011 if he resigns

We get a young goalie with a lot of potential and could even split duties with Schnieder if we wanted.

The little I saw of Pacrioretty I was really impressed, he wont make an impact right away, but his upside is enormous and could be an excellent power forward.

The whole deal is pretty inline with the Pronger - Flyer trade, let me know what you think.

[DefCon1]

downer, on Jul 4 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

With the rumors that Luongo is looking near 8mil a season, I think its time for MG to look at moving him.

Either he gets resigned to a reasonable contract 6 - 6.5 over 5 years or we trade him. And it needs to happen this summer, or we'll lose him to UFA next year.

I think that Montreal will be the one of the only if not the only city he would be willing to waive his NTC for, coincidentally I think they have the best to offer in return considering we're losing an amazing goalie.

To Montreal:
Luongo
Hansen/Raymond

To Vancouver:
Price
Pacioretty
1st round pick 2010
1st round pick 2011
Conditional 3rd Round pick 2010 or 2011 if he resigns

We get a young goalie with a lot of potential and could even split duties with Schnieder if we wanted.

The little I saw of Pacrioretty I was really impressed, he wont make an impact right away, but his upside is enormous and could be an excellent power forward.

The whole deal is pretty inline with the Pronger - Flyer trade, let me know what you think.

I don't get why you are trying to trade a FRANCHISE goalie for a younger goalie? We get ripped off since Price hasn't proven anything and this is completely different than the Pronger trade. Luongo is relatively young and can play for 10 more years while Pronger is getting old and his play is declining. There is no way in hell I would trade Luongo unless he wants out.

[Al▪]

DefCon1, on Jul 4 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

I don't get why you are trying to trade a FRANCHISE goalie for a younger goalie? We get ripped off since Price hasn't proven anything and this is completely different than the Pronger trade. Luongo is relatively young and can play for 10 more years while Pronger is getting old and his play is declining. There is no way in hell I would trade Luongo unless he wants out.

K he can walk then.

[downer]

DefCon1, on Jul 4 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

I don't get why you are trying to trade a FRANCHISE goalie for a younger goalie? We get ripped off since Price hasn't proven anything and this is completely different than the Pronger trade. Luongo is relatively young and can play for 10 more years while Pronger is getting old and his play is declining. There is no way in hell I would trade Luongo unless he wants out.

Its not that I WANT to trade him.

I'm just being realistic here. This is a business.

If Luongo is demanding 7-8 mil a season long term to stay in Vancouver, its time for MGs Moneyball to come into effect.

This is too much for him and we all know it. Broduer makes 5.25. End of argument.

You may be right on the trade not having enough value, so if you replace Price with Markov would that appeal to you anymore?

[absent]

I completely agree with the basic principle of this thread. As much as it's wonderful to have a world class goaltender, the way the NHL is changing, it's just not realistic to commit 8M a season to an aging goaltender...even if he will play 70 games a season.

I'd be interested to see what the Canadiens would be willing to give up though. I think you might be overstating Luongo's value in trade as an impending UFA with a big salary headed down the pipeline. Especially given the corner Gainey has painted the Habs into with their cap situation for the next 5 years and big money committed to some talent up front.

I still see Philly as one of the more realistic options (if you can call it that at all) for trading Luongo. If the Flyers could get Briere to come back the other way as part of a package, they'd probably be able to finnagle a way to make their cap situation work, while finally sorting out their goaltending question which has plagued them year after year for most of recent memory. And i believe Luongo would be somewhat enticed by the obvious skill the Flyers have built up across the board, and realize that with solid goaltending, they would be a SERIOUS contender for a good while to come.

[downer]

absent, on Jul 4 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

I completely agree with the basic principle of this thread. As much as it's wonderful to have a world class goaltender, the way the NHL is changing, it's just not realistic to commit 8M a season to an aging goaltender...even if he will play 70 games a season.

I'd be interested to see what the Canadiens would be willing to give up though. I think you might be overstating Luongo's value in trade as an impending UFA with a big salary headed down the pipeline. Especially given the corner Gainey has painted the Habs into with their cap situation for the next 5 years and big money committed to some talent up front.

I still see Philly as one of the more realistic options (if you can call it that at all) for trading Luongo. If the Flyers could get Briere to come back the other way as part of a package, they'd probably be able to finnagle a way to make their cap situation work, while finally sorting out their goaltending question which has plagued them year after year for most of recent memory. And i believe Luongo would be somewhat enticed by the obvious skill the Flyers have built up across the board, and realize that with solid goaltending, they would be a SERIOUS contender for a good while to come.

If Lu's willing to waive his NTC for the flyers and we have Carter coming the other way, I'd be all ears.

[Hodgson59]

Pass.

[sonorJCM]

You may be right that the Canucks have to trade him or lose him next year for nothing. I just think they can do way way better in a trade.

Although, even if he walked next year ( God forbid ) then the Canucks would have a huge chunk of cash to spend, and that could be good.

[MGaborik]

DefCon1, on Jul 4 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

I don't get why you are trying to trade a FRANCHISE goalie for a younger goalie? We get ripped off since Price hasn't proven anything and this is completely different than the Pronger trade. Luongo is relatively young and can play for 10 more years while Pronger is getting old and his play is declining. There is no way in hell I would trade Luongo unless he wants out.

What has Luongo prooven? Oh, he can lead us to the playoffs. *hint* Chris Mason? *hint*

[luongo55]

I'd rather trade him for something good than lose him to free agency for nothing

[downer]

luongo55, on Jul 4 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

I'd rather trade him for something good than lose him to free agency for nothing

This is exactly my point and the whole purpose of this thread

[shazzam]

there has been so many threads on this

[The Grinch]

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Having Luongo is great, but when he won't take a paycut to play, we can't sign better players so let him go to his favorite city where he'll be happy.

I'm happy with Price. He'd probably step it up infront of his hometown. MaxPac is probably Montreal's top prospect, and if their new signings pan out, those 3 first rounders will be 15-25 spot so we'd be amazing for the future.

[absent]

downer, on Jul 4 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

If Lu's willing to waive his NTC for the flyers and we have Carter coming the other way, I'd be all ears.

haha. wouldn't we all though! i would be absolutely ecstatic, but i just don't see Philly giving up Carter for anything really. Him and Richards are going to be the face of that franchise for many years to come.

[RickNash]

To Columbus:

Roberto Luongo, The Sedins.

To Vancouver:

Rick Nash, Nikita Filatov, Derrick Brassard, Chris Mason ,1st in '10.

Kinda Crazy, but fair for both sides.

This post has been edited by RickNash: 04 July 2009 - 10:05 PM

[RK.17]

RickNash, on Jul 4 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

To Columbus:

Roberto Luongo, The Sedins.

To Vancouver:

Rick Nash, Nikita Filatov, Derrick Brassard, Chris Mason ,1st in '10.

Kinda Crazy, but fair for both sides.

I lol'd

After all we've done to try to keep the sedins in vancouver now your saying trade them away!?

This post has been edited by RK.17: 04 July 2009 - 10:43 PM

[GM]

downer, on Jul 4 2009, 10:41 AM, said:

With the rumors that Luongo is looking near 8mil a season, I think its time for MG to look at moving him.

Either he gets resigned to a reasonable contract 6 - 6.5 over 5 years or we trade him. And it needs to happen this summer, or we'll lose him to UFA next year.

I think that Montreal will be the one of the only if not the only city he would be willing to waive his NTC for, coincidentally I think they have the best to offer in return considering we're losing an amazing goalie.

To Montreal:
Luongo
Hansen/Raymond

To Vancouver:
Price
Pacioretty
1st round pick 2010
1st round pick 2011
Conditional 3rd Round pick 2010 or 2011 if he resigns

We get a young goalie with a lot of potential and could even split duties with Schnieder if we wanted.

The little I saw of Pacrioretty I was really impressed, he wont make an impact right away, but his upside is enormous and could be an excellent power forward.

The whole deal is pretty inline with the Pronger - Flyer trade, let me know what you think.

Agreed, anything over 6.5 or maybe 7 isn't worth it, we need to trade him now if he wants more.

Luongo should be worth more than Pronger rite now so maybe we could even get more than Price,Pacio,2 1st rounders...........especially if we're adding Raymond

[GM]

RickNash, on Jul 4 2009, 09:04 PM, said:

To Columbus:

Roberto Luongo, The Sedins.

To Vancouver:

Rick Nash, Nikita Filatov, Derrick Brassard, Chris Mason ,1st in '10.

Kinda Crazy, but fair for both sides.

I highly doubt CLB would do this.

I'm looking at it like Luongo straight up for Nash and the Sedin's for cheap young superstars Filatov,Brassard,Mason and a 1st rounder, No way does CLB do this.........

[Penucks Girl]

~ OK, I really don't want to see Lou leave, he is a big part of the team. BUT if he doesn't sign for say 7 mill/ 7 years, Hiller's contract is up 2010...

[MGaborik]

RickNash, on Jul 4 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

To Columbus:

Roberto Luongo, The Sedins.

To Vancouver:

Rick Nash, Nikita Filatov, Derrick Brassard, Chris Mason ,1st in '10.

Kinda Crazy, but fair for both sides.

Chris mason?

You mean Steve Mason.. How did nobody notice?