[Canucksfan141]

The Canucks are in a strange position right now. Cap wise they are not looking so good and they are still in need of 2 key pieces being a top 6 forward and a mobile defensemen. The following are some options that make long-term sense for all parties involved. FIRST STEP IS TO SIGN LUEY THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL WORK!!

1. James van Riemsdyk

Phili is in tight against the cap now after getting Pronger. They also have no real number 1 goaltender as Emery is signed for 1 year and IMO was never considered a quality net minder. What Phili does have is a huge amount of offensive talent ie, Richards, Carter, Gagne, Briere, Hartnell etc. Thus they James vanRiemsdyk may be considered expendable to fill the gaping goaltender issue they have. Thus I recommend that Van sends Cory Schneider to Phili for vanRiemsdyk straight.

Note that both Cory Schneider and James vanRiemsdyk are ranked within two places on Hockeyfutures.com.

2. Chris Butler

Buffalo has always had a tough time keeping there stars due to there financial situation. As such, they are really lacking firepower up front. Apart from Roy, Vanek and the often injured Connolly, there is little to no talent up front. Further, they are definitely trying to look for someone due to Afinogenov leaving but I doubt they have ever been able to make a realistic bid for a top player. Raymond is the type of guy that would excel in Buffalo given the speedy game they play. Thus I would send Raymond for Butler.

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Line up and Cap hit:


Line 1: Sedin (6.1) Sedin (6.1) Samuelsson (2.5) 14.7

Line 2: vanRiemsdyk (.850) R. Kesler (1.75) Demitra (4) 6.6

Line 3: Burrows (2) C. Hodgson (1.75) Bernier (2) 5.75

Line 4: Hordichuck (.7) Johnson (1.1) Rypien (.55) 2.35

Spares: Hansen, Grabner, Pope

Line 1: Mitchell (3.5) Butler (.85) 4.35

Line 2: Bieksa (3.75) O'brien (1.5, estimated) 5.25

Line 3: Edler (3.25) Salo (3.5) 6.75

Spares: Baumer, Nycolat

Luey 6.75
anyone .75

Total Cap: 53.25
About 3ish million to sill play with

Thoughts???

[Canuck23]

i like this because its reasonable, most people are puttin us within 500 K of the cap so this is good but it depends if Butler is a fast puck moving offensive D or just a slow defensive guy?

[Canucksfan141]

Canuck23, on Jul 4 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

i like this because its reasonable, most people are puttin us within 500 K of the cap so this is good but it depends if Butler is a fast puck moving offensive D or just a slow defensive guy?

Butler is a mature offensive defenseman that is reliable in his own zone. He was a team leader at the University of Denver this past season, setting an example for a very young team. As a well-rounded player, he works well in tight spaces and makes the first pass well.

http://www.hockeysfu...ts/chris_butler

[canuck2xtreme]

Just a quick thought...

If we're dealing with Buffalo for a prospect defenceman, it has to be Tyler Myers. Period.

And it would likely take a pretty good offer to get him.

[luongo55]

canuck2xtreme, on Jul 4 2009, 03:30 PM, said:

Just a quick thought...

If we're dealing with Buffalo for a prospect defenceman, it has to be Tyler Myers. Period.

And it would likely take a pretty good offer to get him.

yeah i would go after myers

[Canucksfan141]

luongo55, on Jul 4 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

yeah i would go after myers

No way we are getting Myers unless we give up quite a bit. Butler is actually a really good fit given what I have read about him.

[39CoDyHoDgSoN]

Myers is a beast , but yah i'd like JVR on the nucks , showed great chemistry with Schroeder at the olympics and if we could add another young guy like that , then the future looks very promising. Any idea how much JVR is making or when his contract is up?

Schneider , Hansen & a draft pick
for
JVR & Brayden Coburn

[absent]

I don't see Philly taking Schneider for JVR straight up. I mean, the rumors last season had them potentially trading JVR for Kari Lehtonen who is still young, but has already established himself at the NHL level pretty solidly. Having JVR and Schroeder together in a few seasons would be pretty seriously slick though.

[Canucksfan141]

absent, on Jul 4 2009, 05:55 PM, said:

I don't see Philly taking Schneider for JVR straight up. I mean, the rumors last season had them potentially trading JVR for Kari Lehtonen who is still young, but has already established himself at the NHL level pretty solidly. Having JVR and Schroeder together in a few seasons would be pretty seriously slick though.

I think it has the potential to happen for sure.

[DefCon1]

absent, on Jul 4 2009, 05:55 PM, said:

I don't see Philly taking Schneider for JVR straight up. I mean, the rumors last season had them potentially trading JVR for Kari Lehtonen who is still young, but has already established himself at the NHL level pretty solidly. Having JVR and Schroeder together in a few seasons would be pretty seriously slick though.

I think they would accept the trade, since Schneider is the BEST young goalie (aside from Rask) not in the NHL. Schneider's cap hit is low and could be their future #1 goalie and he is also American. I think Philly would do that deal since they have glut of forwards right now with C.giroux making the team and want to win a cup within the next 3 years.

[Steven Stamkos 91]

canuck2xtreme, on Jul 4 2009, 03:30 PM, said:

Just a quick thought...

If we're dealing with Buffalo for a prospect defenceman, it has to be Tyler Myers. Period.

And it would likely take a pretty good offer to get him.

Agreed, we should go after myers if we wanted a defensive prospect. and as to the Philly trade i think we would have to give up maybe like a 2nd-4th round pick for JVR, but even then i'd still do that trade.

[therosberg]

canucks-fan604, on Jul 4 2009, 04:44 PM, said:

Myers is a beast , but yah i'd like JVR on the nucks , showed great chemistry with Schroeder at the olympics and if we could add another young guy like that , then the future looks very promising. Any idea how much JVR is making or when his contract is up?

Schneider , Hansen & a draft pick
for
JVR & Brayden Coburn

Schneider, Demo
For
JVR, Braydon Coburn

would give us more cap space and I never really liked Demo anyways

Sedin - Sedin - Samuelsson (s-line? )
JVR - Kesler - Burrows
Bernier - Hodgson - Raymond
Hordi - Johnson - Rypie
Wellwood
Edler - Coburn
Mitchell - Salo
Bieksa - SOB
Rome/Nycholat

D core is set but the 2nd line looks quite week and there is cap to fix this. (Alex Tanguay, Saku Koivu, Mats Sundin are all options for me)

[canuck2xtreme]

therosberg, on Jul 5 2009, 01:06 AM, said:

Schneider, Demo
For
JVR, Braydon Coburn

Are you kidding me?? The Flyers would NEVER do that deal. Wow...

[Schroeder]

canucks-fan604, on Jul 4 2009, 03:44 PM, said:

Myers is a beast , but yah i'd like JVR on the nucks , showed great chemistry with Schroeder at the olympics and if we could add another young guy like that , then the future looks very promising. Any idea how much JVR is making or when his contract is up?

Schneider , Hansen & a draft pick
for
JVR & Brayden Coburn

Wow, I didn't know Schroeder and JVR played in the Olympics.