NuckleDragger Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Raymond will be better than Hansen once his hands catch up to his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor19Naslund Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Raymond really stepped it up in the playoffs and surprised me in many ways! Could have his breakout year in the 2009/2010 Season, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginuwine Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I can not believe the amount of people that put so much "potential" on Raymond but fail to see that Hansen is much better. Hansen had his rookie season and put up almost the same amount of points as Raymond did with around twenty less games played. How come Raymond is considered to have a higher value than Hansen on the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4ff Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I bet MG wants to sign him, but there isn't much room for him. It doesn't help that he keeps nagging for a 1 way contract, because when the time comes, he wouldn't enjoy being a healthy scratch. Which means we might waive him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesler#17 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 speed kills , lack of skill doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesler#17 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 theres going to be alot of " break out seasons " this year . expected to be : samuelsson , bernier , wellwood , raymond , you could even say burrows if you expect his 30 goals for the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks94forever Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hansen > This Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Mother Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 i think people forget that hansen was drafted in the 9th round. we should be happy that we actually drafted a player from one of the later rounds who happens to be successful thus far. 21 points in 55 games in his rookie season is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackassian Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hansen FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyBadger Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 First Off Raymond will develop into a more all round player than Hansen. Raymond has the possibility of being a second or third liner in the league hansen is a 3rd liner at the best of times 4th line plumber the rest of the time . Completely different expectations from both players Raymond was a 2nd round draft choice #51 overall in 2005 from Camrose Kodiaks AJHL. Mason Raymond Left Wing Born Sep 17 1985 -- Calgary, ALTA Height 6.00 -- Weight 182 -- Shoots L Selected by Vancouver Canucks round 2 #51 overall 2005 NHL Entry Draft Regular Season Playoffs Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM 2003-04 CR Kodiaks AJHL 57 27 35 62 32 2004-05 CR Kodiaks AJHL 55 41 41 82 80 2005-06 U. M-Duluth NCAA 40 11 17 28 30 2006-07 U. M-Duluth NCAA 39 14 32 46 45 2006-07 Manitoba Moose AHL 11 2 2 4 6 13 0 1 1 0 2007-08 Van. Canucks NHL 49 9 12 21 2 -- -- -- -- -- 2007-08 Manitoba Moose AHL 20 7 10 17 6 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Van. Canucks NHL 72 11 12 23 24 10 2 1 3 2 NHL Totals 121 20 24 44 26 10 2 1 3 2 Raymond has played more games and has scored 14 more goals and 9 more assists in 61 more games. But how much ice time did Raymond see in those extra games 5-10 minutes game time more than likely. Little to no PP time. PK time near the end of last year finally. Hansen was a 9th round draft choice # 287 overall in 2004 from Malmo Jrs [sweden] Jannik Hansen Right Wing Born Mar 15 1986 -- Herlev, Denmark Height 6.01 -- Weight 201 -- Shoots R Selected by Vancouver Canucks round 9 #287 overall 2004 NHL Entry Draft Regular Season Playoffs Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM 2005-06 P Winter Hawks WHL 64 24 40 64 67 12 7 6 13 16 2006-07 Manitoba Moose AHL 72 12 22 34 38 6 0 0 0 2 2006-07 Van. Canucks NHL -- -- -- -- -- 10 0 1 1 4 2007-08 Manitoba Moose AHL 50 21 22 43 22 6 2 2 4 0 2007-08 Van. Canucks NHL 5 0 0 0 2 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Van.r Canucks NHL 55 6 15 21 37 2 0 0 0 0 2008-09 Manitoba Moose AHL 2 1 0 1 2 -- -- -- -- -- NHL Totals 60 6 15 21 39 12 0 1 1 4 In Hansen's first year in Portland he put up decent numbers but has since been unable to do so at an NHL Level but has added good scoring at an AHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolutego Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hansen is not as flashy, which is why less people notice him. He'll never score as many goals as Raymond but is a MUCH better team player; he passes more and is more reliable defensively. That said, I think Raymond will turn out as a more important player down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckin_futs Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 whichever one gets us Kaberle is the better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Hansen FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFA-CLASSIC Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 theres going to be alot of " break out seasons " this year . expected to be : samuelsson , bernier , wellwood , raymond , you could even say burrows if you expect his 30 goals for the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy.crack.corn Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Like someone said earlier, they both had nearly the same amount of points, Hansen in 20 less games and without ANY top 6 time. Raymond was on the second line for quite some time if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Ok tough guy... would you give him the 1 way contract he wants? Hmm??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond #21 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 If I remember correctly, Raymond got most of his points on the 2nd line in the first quarter of the season. Then the Sedins went on a cold streak and AV put Raymond with them. That's when everything went downhill for Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Patrick Harris Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I can not believe the amount of people that put so much "potential" on Raymond but fail to see that Hansen is much better. Hansen had his rookie season and put up almost the same amount of points as Raymond did with around twenty less games played. How come Raymond is considered to have a higher value than Hansen on the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Patrick Harris Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 No, he's better off getting games with the Moose rather than sitting in the press box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 So I guess everyone should've given up on Burrows and Kesler. Nothing stood out for those guys too when they were 4th line pugs. You can't say a player is going to be just cuz they are big or fast. You have to be a total package with good hockey sense. You can't rely on one attribute. Note how Wellwood beat Kesler in the puck handling competition even though Kesler had like a 2 stride advantage when he touched the puck first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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