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What Genre of metal do you listen to the most?

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#31 BullOnParade

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 05:29 PM

Mastadon on Jimmy Fallon last night was totally awesome.


Damn I missed it. What did they play?
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 05:35 PM

Damn I missed it. What did they play?


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:57 PM

Nice this place needed a metal thread. I wouldn't consider myself a metalhead but I do enjoy some of it here and there, when the time is right :lol: . Anyways I'm stoked for Slayers new album it's out in some countries already but not here yet. Here's some of the tracks on it.





F*CKIN SLAYER!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 12:03 AM

Phycophathy Red frackin Slayer Great song to listen to after a 7-2 loss
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:15 AM

Anyone like My Dying Bride?


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Posted 31 October 2009 - 09:10 AM

You wouldn't dignify all those 80's hair bands as to call them 'metal', would you?

Why did they shoot down their plans anyways, since grunge very much fits the hard rock category, and could very well fill the slots?

How about industrial metal? Is that a subcategory worthy of mention?


actually I would still put those 80's hair bands as a type of metal... Glam. As Dave Mustaine put it... Gay LA Metal.

Grunge I would also put under "metal." But on a case by case basis. Listen to Soundgarden or even Alice in Chains... tell me they don't fit "metal." Sure they aren't all about speed, but then playing fast isn't always "metal."
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 09:22 AM

It really is a subjective thing... the list of genres and subgenres (and even sub-subgenres) is a long and complicated thing to say the least. The one thing I can say for certain is Black Sabbath is metal. They may not have played the first metallic riffs, but they were one of the first truly pure metal bands. They along with acts like Blue Cheer really took the use of distorted guitars first used by the Kinks (You Really Got Me is essentially the first hard rock song, funny note about that, Ray Davies created the distortion sound by accident when he jammed knitting needles into his amp).

From there it gets confusing, though. AC/DC have metallic overtones, but are essentially a heavy blues band. Van Halen? Hard rock. Rush? Though their influence on bands will likely be heard for generations, especially in the progressive metal genre, to me at least are hard rock. The 70's saw the birth of some of the biggest metal acts (Judas Priest and Iron Maiden) while a number of bands that went on to be hard rock legends were at the time considered metal (Deep Purple, Blue Oyster Cult and others).

The 80's lead to an explosion not just in popularity among fans, but bands as well. The NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) scene started at the tail end of the 70's with bands like Iron Maiden, Saxon, Def Leppard (yes, before Mutt Lange destroyed them), Raven, Venom, Diamond Head and others. Some, like Maiden and Leppard went on to become multi-platinum selling artists, while others faded into obscurity, though some became well known through bands they influenced... In the US, metal began to become prominent thanks to MTV (this is weird, they used to show music videos on that channel. No, I'm serious...) and both hard rock and metal scenes sprouted all over the country, though as with most entertainment, most attention was focused on California. The LA scene was the home of hard rock, bands like Motley Crue, Poison, Cinderella and tons more played the Sunset Strip and became huge, following in the wake of the already mega-platinum Van Halen. But LA was also home to Metallica (who would later move to San Francisco) and Slayer, 2 of the Big 4 bands of thrash metal (subgenres...). While LA's ozone layer was depleted by the Aqua Net abuse, The Bay Area saw the emergence of some of the best thrash metal acts, along with Metallica, Megadeth (featuring ex- Metallica guitarist Dave Mustaine), Legacy (who went on to become Testament), Exodus (whose founding guitarist Kirk Hammett replaced Mustaine), Death Angel (5 Filipino cousins who were all under the age of 21 when their debut album was released, drummer Andy Galeon was just 14!), Forbidden, Possessed and others. But other scenes across the country emerged: Florida became the birthplace of death metal, Seattle brought us Metal Church and Queensryche, and microscenes in states like Texas and New Orleans, as well as the strong NY scene, home of Anthrax, Overkill, Whiplash, Prong and others was prominent as well. Metal and Hard Rock dominated the charts and the airwaves. Then literally days before MTV announced their plans to launch a 24 hour metal channel, some band named Nirvana came along, and the masses were told that metal and hard rock was no longer cool.

hmmm... this ended up being a lot longer than I had anticipated... anyways I have more on this, but I will finish it another time :)


very well put! But I'm going to disagree on Rush (only to a point.) I look at progressive metal and see how they still fit. As I just stated in another post, metal isn't all about speed... and some of their songs are heavy (especially for early Progressive metal.) And since they were one of the earliest progressive metal bands, I see them like BS and how they may not be the "loudest, fastest, etc." band... but as you said.. they ARE metal.

I do think that today, it's easier to distinguish between "metal" and "hard rock."

ok, new question for you (and everyone else)...

What do you think of female lead singers in metal bands?

My take... I actually really enjoy it. Some of these "chicks" can really belt out the notes! But some of them I could pass on (just doesn't "fit") but there are several others that I love to crank!
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:00 PM

very well put! But I'm going to disagree on Rush (only to a point.) I look at progressive metal and see how they still fit. As I just stated in another post, metal isn't all about speed... and some of their songs are heavy (especially for early Progressive metal.) And since they were one of the earliest progressive metal bands, I see them like BS and how they may not be the "loudest, fastest, etc." band... but as you said.. they ARE metal.

I do think that today, it's easier to distinguish between "metal" and "hard rock."

ok, new question for you (and everyone else)...

What do you think of female lead singers in metal bands?

My take... I actually really enjoy it. Some of these "chicks" can really belt out the notes! But some of them I could pass on (just doesn't "fit") but there are several others that I love to crank!


I like Tarja, formerly of Nightwish, and whoever that luscious creature is that fronts Lacuna Coil ;)
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:43 PM

no
hard rock

:)
a heavy riff doth not necessarily mean it be metal, or somethin' like that

How about this?



Going acoustic contradicts the definition of metal, no?
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:01 PM

Angela Gossow- ARCH ENEMY
Sharon Den Adel- WITHIN TEMPTATION
Cristina Scabbia- LACUNA COIL
Tarja Turunen- NIGHTWISH
Maria Brink- IN THIS MOMENT
Sabine Klassen- HOLY MOSES
Veronica Freeman- BENEDICTUM

and let's not forget the girls who can shred
LORI LINSTRUTH- Warbride
THE GREAT KAT- **80's metal cheez warning... watch at your own risk :P **
ELIZABETH ELLIOT- Dreaming Dead
MICHELLE MELDRUM- Meldrum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd46H5LVX-U
and some great all female bands
SCARLET SINS (Canadian) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk07j_uRs3s
DRAIN STH- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk07j_uRs3s
CRUCIFIED BARBARA- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZGP4oabVFY
THE IRON MAIDENS (All female tribute band) http://www.youtube.c...8...46C&index=0
GALLHAMMER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6balaHGQg38
ICE AGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yareXHZijKE
MYTHIC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF9M0vetBB0
PHANTOM BLUE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y50GEFjKsZE
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:03 PM

How about this?



Going acoustic contradicts the definition of metal, no?

no...
because there are acoustic songs infinitely heavier than some of the 3 chord wannabe's out there... its about song structure and riff styling... anyone can get a distortion pedal, but you need to be able to understand metal to play it
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:08 PM

no...
because there are acoustic songs infinitely heavier than some of the 3 chord wannabe's out there... its about song structure and riff styling... anyone can get a distortion pedal, but you need to be able to understand metal to play it

Come to think of it, it's actually quite silly to try to pigeonhole artists as either metal or nonmetal. If anything, they should be categorized more on a song by song basis, and even that is subjective.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:21 PM

Come to think of it, it's actually quite silly to try to pigeonhole artists as either metal or nonmetal. If anything, they should be categorized more on a song by song basis, and even that is subjective.

yes and no
some are inherently metal... some aren't
it's pigeonholing yet at the same time, it's also an identification... coming out and saying your band is metal means that for the most part (if not completely) you are rejecting the pop music system... I always found that the easy way to identify bands was actually how the albums are written... most pure metal bands write albums as a whole, where as the focus with pop and some rock bands is as many "hits" as you can, even at the sake of not creating an identifiable style, then top up the album with filler...
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 05:30 PM

no...
because there are acoustic songs infinitely heavier than some of the 3 chord wannabe's out there... its about song structure and riff styling... anyone can get a distortion pedal, but you need to be able to understand metal to play it

I still wouldn't consider Nothing Else Matters metal. That doesn't make Metallica any less metal, just the song.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:10 PM

I still wouldn't consider Nothing Else Matters metal. That doesn't make Metallica any less metal, just the song.

I dont consider that much of a metal song either...nor much of anything they did in the era from that album up until death magnetic... and what was metal was shyte...
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:14 PM

DIMMU BORGIR FTW. \m/ Up the irons!
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:24 PM

DIMMU BORGIR FTW. \m/ Up the irons!

Speaking of Iron Maiden, I always feel torn when listening to them. The guitar work is fantastic, some of the best I've heard in terms of melodic leads. You can hear their influence in countless metal bands today. I can't stand the singing though, not at all. That high pitched style really rubs me the wrong way/
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:26 PM

Heavy Metal .... Huh?

Post all metal-related stuff here (albums you like, news, upcoming shows, photos, etc.)
There was an older thread but it dropped off so I will do my best to keep this one going...

SATURDAY CONCERTS for all of you ghoulish metalheads:


Divinity / Omega Crom / Malice Plagued (& costume contest) @ The Fall Gallery (644 Seymour). Advance tix $10 at Scrape; $15 at door. Show start 9:30.

HalloMadness: Torrential Pain / Remove The Doubt / Prophet Fulfilled / God's Empty Promise / Re-Entry / Against Grey (& costume contest) @ Eclipse (2253 Wilson Ave. Port Coquitlam). Show atarts 8 pm; costume prizes and such; $12 ($10 presale).

League Of Corruption / Entropia / Mecha Messiah (& costume contest) @ Delta Lion Pub (N. Delta). $10; doors at 8 pm.

Black Mountain / Bison BC + more @ Rickshaw. $15.

Other upcoming shows of note:
NOVEMBER 10TH (TUESDAY):

Misfits @ The Venue (Vancouver)

NOVEMBER 11TH (Wednesday)
Misfits @ Element (Victoria)

NOVEMBER 12TH (THURSDAY):

Omega Crom @ Regent Inn (Revelstoke BC)

NOVEMBER 14TH (SATURDAY):

Kiss @ GM Place.

NOVEMBER 15TH (SUNDAY):

Suffocation / The Faceless/ Vital Remains / Annotations Of An Autopsy / Enfold Darkness @ The Rickshaw. $25

NOVEMBER 20TH (FRIDAY):

Monsters Of Death tour: Vader / Decrpit Birth / Augury / Warbringer / The Amenta / SWWAATS @ Roll-A-Dome (Prince George).

Trans Siberian Orchestra @ Pacific Coliseum.

NOVEMBER 21ST (SATURDAY):

Monsters Of Death tour: Vader / Decrepit Birth / Augury / Warbringer / The Amenta / SWWAATS @ The Rickshaw. All-ages w. bar.

Stryper @ The Red Room.

NOVEMBER 22ND (SUNDAY):

Ensiferum / Hypocrisy / Ex Deo / Blackguard @ The Rickshaw.

Monsters Of Death tour: Vader / Decrpit Birth / Augury / Warbringer / The Amenta / SWWAATS @ Sugar (Victoria)


NOVEMBER 24TH (TUESDAY):

Trivium / Chimaira / Dirge Within / White Chapel @ Commodore

NOVEMBER 25TH (WEDNESDAY):

Heathenfest: Eluveitie / Belphegor / Alestorm / Kivimetsan Druidi / Vreid / Trollband / Scythia @ The Red Room. $32; 7 pm.

NOVEMBER 30TH (MONDAY):

GWAR / Job For A Cowboy / The Red Chord @ The Commodore $49

DECEMBER 2ND (WEDNESDAY):

Hatebreed / Cannibal Corpse / Hate Eternal / Born Of Osiris / Unearth @ Commodore

JANUARY 31
Korpiklaani/ Tyr/ Swashbuckle/White Wizzard @ Rickshaw Theater


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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:26 PM

Speaking of Iron Maiden, I always feel torn when listening to them. The guitar work is fantastic, some of the best I've heard in terms of melodic leads. You can hear their influence in countless metal bands today. I can't stand the singing though, not at all. That high pitched style really rubs me the wrong way/


Blasphemy. Long Live Bruce Dickinson. :angry:
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:27 PM

Blasphemy. Long Live Bruce Dickinson. :angry:

Nope, not my style of singing at all :P
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:29 PM

... Like the creators of Metal, Black Sabbath?


KING DIAMOND- Cremation http://www.youtube.c...8...F10&index=3
OZZY OSBOURNE- Bark At The Moon http://www.youtube.c...8...F10&index=7
MEGADETH- Bad Omen http://www.youtube.c...o...10&index=11
TESTAMENT- The Haunting http://www.youtube.c...0...10&index=23
SLAYER- Haunting The Chapel http://www.youtube.c...w...10&index=34
HELLOWEEN- Halloween (duh! lol)
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES- Waking The Dead http://www.youtube.c...Q...43&index=43
S.O.D.- Freddy Krueger
MERCYFUL FATE- Come To The Sabbath
GRAVE- Soullesshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63iCBqm4XBM&feature=PlayList&p=34E7BE5487890860&index=5
ENTOMBED- But Life Goes On http://www.youtube.c...g...860&index=7
CANNIBAL CORPSE- Staring Through The Eyes Of The Dead
POSSESSED- The Exorcist http://www.youtube.c...g...6CC&index=1
VENOM- Welcome To Hell http://www.youtube.c...A...6CC&index=6
DEATH- Zombie Ritual http://www.youtube.c...c...CC&index=20
XENTRIX- Ghostbusters http://www.youtube.c...w...319&index=1
KING DIAMOND- The Family Ghost http://www.youtube.c...Y...19&index=75
SLAYER- Raining Blood http://www.youtube.c...w...292&index=7
LAAZ ROCKIT- Leatherface http://www.youtube.c...4...92&index=86
DARK ANGEL- Welcome To The Slaughterhouse http://www.youtube.c...c...B8&index=29
MORBID ANGEL- Chapel of Ghouls
MAYHEM- Freezing Moon http://www.youtube.c...A...E2&index=46
DIMMU BORGIR- Spellbound http://www.youtube.c...0...F8&index=23
MUNICIPAL WASTE- Headbanger Face Rip


more to come...


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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:29 PM

Nope, not my style of singing at all :P


Well you're talking to a nut who actually likes Shagrath's voice, so I'm a little biased on that subject, seeing as how I wear Iron Maiden shoes, most of the time.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:42 PM

I saw Dimmu Borgir live at the Commodore a few years back. ****ing awesome show. It was their In Sorte Diablo promo tour but they played some old goodies too.

Saw Opeth at Progfest in whatever theater hall is right around the corner from the Commodore. I liked them a lot, but I'm still a bigger Dream Theater fan.

I don't listen to as much metal as I used to. But when I do it's usually some kind of Scandinavian death metal or Gothenburg metal.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:43 PM

I saw Dimmu Borgir live at the Commodore a few years back. ****ing awesome show. It was their In Sorte Diablo promo tour but they played some old goodies too.

Saw Opeth at Progfest in whatever theater hall is right around the corner from the Commodore. I liked them a lot, but I'm still a bigger Dream Theater fan.

I don't listen to as much metal as I used to. But when I do it's usually some kind of Scandinavian death metal or Gothenburg metal.


The metal interest for me comes in cycles. Certain times of the year I listen to it more than others. It's weird, but I've always been that way. I also really like Satyricon.

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 08:41 PM

Heavy Metal .... Huh?

yeah
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 08:43 PM

... Like the creators of Metal, Black Sabbath?

yeah... I covered that
this was a list of halloween-themed songs
reading... it does a brain good
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 09:46 PM

I will certainly be attending the Ensiferum/Hypocrisy show in November. Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom will be playing guitar in Hypocrisy, which is an added bonus, but I'll be there primarily for Enisiferum. I leave you with some awesome songs from Insomnium, probably one of the best Melodic Death Metal bands ever, and certainly they are the current leaders of the genre with In Flames departing from their original sound. Seriously, Insomnium has it all, amazing riffs and melodies, great growling and clean vocals, and actually excellent and meaningful lyrics:



Would you come and share
My cross, my pain, my heartbroken nature
For this burden is too heavy to bear
Too troublesome for one man to handle

Since my darkness swallowed
The last gleam of light
I've been rambling in the shadows
Hour after hour in the dark

They who never got sorrow,
Grinding grief in their hearts
Never lost a thing,
Never had a thing

They who never witnessed beauty,
That flamed even the all-encompassing night
Never lost a thing,
Never had a thing

Now these bitter tears run ceaseless,
And drown my hope far too deep
It must've been the day we parted
When I trapped this sadness in me

Since my darkness swallowed
The last gleam of light
I've been clothed in mourning,
Wearing sorrow day and night
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:36 PM

I will certainly be attending the Ensiferum/Hypocrisy show in November. Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom will be playing guitar in Hypocrisy, which is an added bonus, but I'll be there primarily for Enisiferum. I leave you with some awesome songs from Insomnium, probably one of the best Melodic Death Metal bands ever, and certainly they are the current leaders of the genre with In Flames departing from their original sound. Seriously, Insomnium has it all, amazing riffs and melodies, great growling and clean vocals, and actually excellent and meaningful lyrics:



Would you come and share
My cross, my pain, my heartbroken nature
For this burden is too heavy to bear
Too troublesome for one man to handle

Since my darkness swallowed
The last gleam of light
I've been rambling in the shadows
Hour after hour in the dark

They who never got sorrow,
Grinding grief in their hearts
Never lost a thing,
Never had a thing

They who never witnessed beauty,
That flamed even the all-encompassing night
Never lost a thing,
Never had a thing

Now these bitter tears run ceaseless,
And drown my hope far too deep
It must've been the day we parted
When I trapped this sadness in me

Since my darkness swallowed
The last gleam of light
I've been clothed in mourning,
Wearing sorrow day and night

cool... I haven't checked out Insomnium before... will give this a listen in the morning, hadnt heard that Laiho is touring with hypocrisy, but that's a hell of an add-on to a band
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#59 VICanucksfan5551

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:44 PM

I will certainly be attending the Ensiferum/Hypocrisy show in November. Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom will be playing guitar in Hypocrisy, which is an added bonus, but I'll be there primarily for Enisiferum. I leave you with some awesome songs from Insomnium, probably one of the best Melodic Death Metal bands ever, and certainly they are the current leaders of the genre with In Flames departing from their original sound. Seriously, Insomnium has it all, amazing riffs and melodies, great growling and clean vocals, and actually excellent and meaningful lyrics:



Didn't quite click the first time through, but they seem to have a lot of elements I like in music. I'm sure it'll grow on me later like most bands I like after hearing them for the first time.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 11:52 PM

Didn't quite click the first time through, but they seem to have a lot of elements I like in music. I'm sure it'll grow on me later like most bands I like after hearing them for the first time.



Yea man, I know what you mean. It takes a few listens for me to start getting into certain bands, and I would group Insomnium among those for myself. But now I can't get enough of them, they are incredible once you get to know their songs. They have 4 albums out now, the most recent coming out in September called "Across The Dark." "Above The Weeping World" is probably their strongest album, followed by "The Day It All Came Down." They are so underrated and under-appreciated. I don't even know if they have toured outside of Finland yet but I know they have a huge fan base around the world. Definitely worth just clicking through songs on youtube or something and getting to know them. Many of their songs have these great acoustic interludes where everything slows down and then builds back up again, reminiscent of old In Flames. Anyways... \m/
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