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What Genre of Metal do you listen to?  

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You may have seen on the news this week that former DANZIG drummer Chuck Biscuits had died... Turns out it was a bizarre hoax

Chuck is a former member of Vancouver's own DOA, plus did time with BLACK FLAG, SOCIAL DISTORTION, and apparently did drum tracks on RUN DMC's Tougher Than Leather album, in addition to the first 4 DANZIG discs

I thought that was the weirdest story yesterday.

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You wouldn't dignify all those 80's hair bands as to call them 'metal', would you?

Why did they shoot down their plans anyways, since grunge very much fits the hard rock category, and could very well fill the slots?

How about industrial metal? Is that a subcategory worthy of mention?

actually I would still put those 80's hair bands as a type of metal... Glam. As Dave Mustaine put it... Gay LA Metal.

Grunge I would also put under "metal." But on a case by case basis. Listen to Soundgarden or even Alice in Chains... tell me they don't fit "metal." Sure they aren't all about speed, but then playing fast isn't always "metal."

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It really is a subjective thing... the list of genres and subgenres (and even sub-subgenres) is a long and complicated thing to say the least. The one thing I can say for certain is Black Sabbath is metal. They may not have played the first metallic riffs, but they were one of the first truly pure metal bands. They along with acts like Blue Cheer really took the use of distorted guitars first used by the Kinks (You Really Got Me is essentially the first hard rock song, funny note about that, Ray Davies created the distortion sound by accident when he jammed knitting needles into his amp).

From there it gets confusing, though. AC/DC have metallic overtones, but are essentially a heavy blues band. Van Halen? Hard rock. Rush? Though their influence on bands will likely be heard for generations, especially in the progressive metal genre, to me at least are hard rock. The 70's saw the birth of some of the biggest metal acts (Judas Priest and Iron Maiden) while a number of bands that went on to be hard rock legends were at the time considered metal (Deep Purple, Blue Oyster Cult and others).

The 80's lead to an explosion not just in popularity among fans, but bands as well. The NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) scene started at the tail end of the 70's with bands like Iron Maiden, Saxon, Def Leppard (yes, before Mutt Lange destroyed them), Raven, Venom, Diamond Head and others. Some, like Maiden and Leppard went on to become multi-platinum selling artists, while others faded into obscurity, though some became well known through bands they influenced... In the US, metal began to become prominent thanks to MTV (this is weird, they used to show music videos on that channel. No, I'm serious...) and both hard rock and metal scenes sprouted all over the country, though as with most entertainment, most attention was focused on California. The LA scene was the home of hard rock, bands like Motley Crue, Poison, Cinderella and tons more played the Sunset Strip and became huge, following in the wake of the already mega-platinum Van Halen. But LA was also home to Metallica (who would later move to San Francisco) and Slayer, 2 of the Big 4 bands of thrash metal (subgenres...). While LA's ozone layer was depleted by the Aqua Net abuse, The Bay Area saw the emergence of some of the best thrash metal acts, along with Metallica, Megadeth (featuring ex- Metallica guitarist Dave Mustaine), Legacy (who went on to become Testament), Exodus (whose founding guitarist Kirk Hammett replaced Mustaine), Death Angel (5 Filipino cousins who were all under the age of 21 when their debut album was released, drummer Andy Galeon was just 14!), Forbidden, Possessed and others. But other scenes across the country emerged: Florida became the birthplace of death metal, Seattle brought us Metal Church and Queensryche, and microscenes in states like Texas and New Orleans, as well as the strong NY scene, home of Anthrax, Overkill, Whiplash, Prong and others was prominent as well. Metal and Hard Rock dominated the charts and the airwaves. Then literally days before MTV announced their plans to launch a 24 hour metal channel, some band named Nirvana came along, and the masses were told that metal and hard rock was no longer cool.

hmmm... this ended up being a lot longer than I had anticipated... anyways I have more on this, but I will finish it another time :)

very well put! But I'm going to disagree on Rush (only to a point.) I look at progressive metal and see how they still fit. As I just stated in another post, metal isn't all about speed... and some of their songs are heavy (especially for early Progressive metal.) And since they were one of the earliest progressive metal bands, I see them like BS and how they may not be the "loudest, fastest, etc." band... but as you said.. they ARE metal.

I do think that today, it's easier to distinguish between "metal" and "hard rock."

ok, new question for you (and everyone else)...

What do you think of female lead singers in metal bands?

My take... I actually really enjoy it. Some of these "chicks" can really belt out the notes! But some of them I could pass on (just doesn't "fit") but there are several others that I love to crank!

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very well put! But I'm going to disagree on Rush (only to a point.) I look at progressive metal and see how they still fit. As I just stated in another post, metal isn't all about speed... and some of their songs are heavy (especially for early Progressive metal.) And since they were one of the earliest progressive metal bands, I see them like BS and how they may not be the "loudest, fastest, etc." band... but as you said.. they ARE metal.

I do think that today, it's easier to distinguish between "metal" and "hard rock."

ok, new question for you (and everyone else)...

What do you think of female lead singers in metal bands?

My take... I actually really enjoy it. Some of these "chicks" can really belt out the notes! But some of them I could pass on (just doesn't "fit") but there are several others that I love to crank!

I like Tarja, formerly of Nightwish, and whoever that luscious creature is that fronts Lacuna Coil ;)

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Angela Gossow- ARCH ENEMY

Sharon Den Adel- WITHIN TEMPTATION http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNUNLn8pgcI

Cristina Scabbia- LACUNA COIL

Tarja Turunen- NIGHTWISH

Maria Brink- IN THIS MOMENT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW2n79L5_lo

Sabine Klassen- HOLY MOSES

Veronica Freeman- BENEDICTUM

and let's not forget the girls who can shred

LORI LINSTRUTH- Warbride

THE GREAT KAT-

**80's metal cheez warning... watch at your own risk :P **

ELIZABETH ELLIOT- Dreaming Dead

MICHELLE MELDRUM- Meldrum

and some great all female bands

SCARLET SINS (Canadian)

DRAIN STH-

CRUCIFIED BARBARA- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZGP4oabVFY

THE IRON MAIDENS (All female tribute band) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkNAPJocNC8&feature=PlayList&p=7F66152EEAD3146C&index=0

GALLHAMMER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6balaHGQg38

ICE AGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yareXHZijKE

MYTHIC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF9M0vetBB0

PHANTOM BLUE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y50GEFjKsZE

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