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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:17 PM

Just watched the season premiere a few hours ago. I think it'll be an interesting season, especially the situation with Walt's family and those two gangsters. I only started watching it about two-thirds of the way through season 2 so I don't know all the details. It's still one of my favourie dramas on TV. I'm borrowing the first season from the library.

Anyone else watching?
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:29 PM

I did.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:31 PM

Soooo excited for this season. This show keeps me on the edge of my seat like no other.

Those 2 mexicans should make it pretty interesting... we probably won't find out what they're up to for about 2-3 more episodes though :frantic:

So far a terrific start to the season!
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:49 PM

I'm goin to hazard a guess the 2 have something to do with Tuku.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 11:52 PM

I've been counting down the weeks waiting for this!

Awesome premier. They set the table well for this season. The two bald guys are intriguing. Obviously they are elite level members of the Mexican Cartel. I wonder if the Heisenberg picture they pinned up at the temple was a tribute, or a curse.

It will be great to see a full season of this. The first season was cut short because of the writers strike, and the second season was rushed because they had to wrap up the loose ends from season 1.

Easily the best show on TV in recent years.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:52 AM

Finally!

And it was directed by Cranston!

This is going to be some excellent TV.....hopefully we will get more episodes than in the past.

I like that they are bringing in Mexican drug gang heavies to the story...i was wondering if they would finally get pissed about their territory being taken over.

I would guess that Hank will be heavily involved this season.

There is a 4 minute preview on the AMC site for the next episode...its quite funny.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:02 AM

Suuuuch a good start to Season 3. Too bad Skyler wouldn't let Walt finish talking. She asssumes the worst right away and has no idea what he's gone through to provide for his family, illegal or not!

And yah, the two Mexicans look crazy. Solid SOLID episode!!
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:53 AM

I liked when Walt was in the gym and the principal asked him to say a few words about the airplane tragedy and then he kept talking about how there were at least 50 worst plane crashes.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 05:46 PM

I wonder when we will actually find out about the Mexican guys. Last year they kept showing the eye floating in the pool, but you never knew what it was from until the last episode with the plane crash.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:00 PM

I wonder when we will actually find out about the Mexican guys. Last year they kept showing the eye floating in the pool, but you never knew what it was from until the last episode with the plane crash.



That's the thing I love and hate about this show... i just want to figure out everything right away, but when it finally comes together in the end it just feels right. It's such a clever show like that.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:05 PM

Awesome premier. They set the table well for this season. The two bald guys are intriguing. Obviously they are elite level members of the Mexican Cartel. I wonder if the Heisenberg picture they pinned up at the temple was a tribute, or a curse.



Good observation. I never thought about the curse aspect, although it seems to make complete sense. I figured it was more of a worship. Any idea as to why the town was crawling towards the site?
This show is brilliant with it's subtleties. There's so much happening all the time, it's really hard to keep up. I remember reading some reviews/insights about last season, and I learned so much about small hints and clues they were giving away during each episode (hardly any of which I caught on to :frantic: )... it made me want to watch the entire season all over again. Even the episode titles were hints about how the season was going to end.
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 12:02 AM

Great episode again, especially the last five minutes. I thought the opening bit was humourous when he gets pepper-sprayed. I wonder just how much influence Gus has. I also liked when Jesse moved into his house.
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“Unbelief is as much of a choice as belief is. What makes it in many ways more appealing is that whereas to believe in something requires some measure of understanding and effort, not to believe doesn't require much of anything at all.” - Frederick Buechner

“All human nature vigorously resists grace because grace changes us and the change is painful.” - Flannery O'Connor


“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” - C.S. Lewis

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 04:20 AM

Looks like Walt will have to go to work for Gus now.
He was lucky Saul's henchman was there to see the hitmen show up.

That opening segment was great, I thought he was going to tell Hank what he's been doing when they were leaving the Police Station.

One complaint... the show needs more bald people! I mean, only like 50% of the prominent characters are bald this year.;)
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:26 AM

Great show, but I find it so tense to watch. It's not so much enjoyment that keeps me watching as it is having to know what will happen....because Jesse and Walt are the worst drug dealers ever! They've really moved away from the early portions of the show that relate more directly to the title...I'd like to see Walt do a little less wimpering and recapture some of the strength in the character from the first season.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 12:09 PM

Just started watching this a week ago and watched all the episodes. Very well written. Second favorite show after Dexter and one up on Sons of Anarchy
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 05:57 PM

Just started watching this a week ago and watched all the episodes. Very well written. Second favorite show after Dexter and one up on Sons of Anarchy



Those are my 3 favorite shows in that order too.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:08 PM

Just watched the very first episode of this show.

HOLY CRAP! I'm hooked.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:10 PM

walt got the pizza on the roof on the first take .. they tried to do the toss multiple times later on but never got it up there again ... :lol:

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:23 PM

Those are my 3 favorite shows in that order too.


really? i think Breaking Bad is in class of its own. and i'd put it and Sons of Anarchy both way ahead of Dexter.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:34 PM

really? i think Breaking Bad is in class of its own. and i'd put it and Sons of Anarchy both way ahead of Dexter.


I really do. Dexter is easily the best written in my mind. Last season was fantastic. The third season dipped a tiny bit. But I have yet to see any show that even comes close to touching season one and season 4. Son's of Anarchy is great but it's a blatant rip off of the soprano's. Breaking Bad is Fantastic. But they don't know how to write a season. They leave too many threads open and don't know where the show is actually supposed to go yet. It's as if they are writing the show as they go. The real magic of Dexter is that if they said ok that is the last season. They make it its own capsule. You feel quite satisfied as they have managed to tie the season up in a nice bow. There is another show that managed to do this as well and that is Sleeper Cell first season.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:39 PM

I really do. Dexter is easily the best written in my mind. Last season was fantastic. The third season dipped a tiny bit. But I have yet to see any show that even comes close to touching season one and season 4. Son's of Anarchy is great but it's a blatant rip off of the soprano's. Breaking Bad is Fantastic. But they don't know how to write a season. They leave too many threads open and don't know where the show is actually supposed to go yet. It's as if they are writing the show as they go. The real magic of Dexter is that if they said ok that is the last season. They make it its own capsule. You feel quite satisfied as they have managed to tie the season up in a nice bow. There is another show that managed to do this as well and that is Sleeper Cell first season.


this is exactly what dexter does and its the number one reason why i put it behind better written shows like Breaking Bad and SoA.

also some examples of Breaking Bad leaving a thread open?

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:57 PM

this is exactly what dexter does and its the number one reason why i put it behind better written shows like Breaking Bad and SoA.

also some examples of Breaking Bad leaving a thread open?


Dexter was an adaptation of a set of books. They knew where it was going because it was clearly laid out in the novels.

http://www.amazon.ca...y/dp/1400095921



Some threads being left open. Sure.


The way they buried the gun without wiping it down. It was clearly left as an opening in case they have problems with story lines.

The whole CIA on the border head exploding in the second season. It didn't do anything for the story. It looks like they were going to go somewhere with it then changed their minds.

Everyone thinking Jesse had killed the guy and getting street cred but somehow the cops don't hear about that or question him about it?

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:07 PM

Dexter was an adaptation of a set of books.

http://www.amazon.ca...y/dp/1400095921


i know, but correct me if i'm wrong the writers have strayed further and further away from the books as the series has gone on.

here is a interview with the Dexter showrunner.

http://ausiellofiles...ale-postmortem/

When was the decision made to kill off Rita?
PHILLIPS: I would say we made the decision pretty late in the season. We didn’t quite know what we were going to do [in the finale].

Why Rita?
PHILLIPS: The story evolved and it kind of became inevitable. We knew that we had to do more than kill Trinity. It’s a little bit of a corner that we paint ourselves into. Last year we tried to avoid that and actually I think we didn’t do as well as we could have. We killed off Jimmy Smits’ character [in the 11th episode] of 12 episodes and then we had to figure out what we were going to do in the 12th episode. This season, we knew that we were going to take Trinity out in the 12th episode and we think that the audience knew that, too. We had to raise the bar to as high as possible and then figure out what to do next year.

thats exactly the type of stuff i'm talking about. i can guarantee you that Vince Gilligan (showrunner for Breaking Bad) and Kurt Sutter (showrunner for SoA) do not start a season without knowing how it ends.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:25 PM

i know, but correct me if i'm wrong the writers have strayed further and further away from the books as the series has gone on.

here is a interview with the Dexter showrunner.

http://ausiellofiles...ale-postmortem/

When was the decision made to kill off Rita?
PHILLIPS: I would say we made the decision pretty late in the season. We didn't quite know what we were going to do [in the finale].

Why Rita?
PHILLIPS: The story evolved and it kind of became inevitable. We knew that we had to do more than kill Trinity. It's a little bit of a corner that we paint ourselves into. Last year we tried to avoid that and actually I think we didn't do as well as we could have. We killed off Jimmy Smits' character [in the 11th episode] of 12 episodes and then we had to figure out what we were going to do in the 12th episode. This season, we knew that we were going to take Trinity out in the 12th episode and we think that the audience knew that, too. We had to raise the bar to as high as possible and then figure out what to do next year.

thats exactly the type of stuff i'm talking about. i can guarantee you that Vince Gilligan (showrunner for Breaking Bad) and Kurt Sutter (showrunner for SoA) do not start a season without knowing how it ends.


Killing Rita was unexpected. But it's also not following the books anymore because there are no books left to go from. The 4th season was one of the best which shows just how good the writers really are. They knew what the audience expected. They gave it to them. Then figured they had to give something else. Which they did.

Sons of Anarchy may have literally had the worst season finale I have ever seen in any show in season two. Not that I won't watch season 3 since I completely love the show. One terrible episode is not changing my mind. I literally found myself not caring about the finale as soon as they didn't kill the guy in the store. If they had planned that to be the ending at the beginning of the season. They may want to rethink what they are doing. Like I said anyways. It's a rip off of the sopranos but they did a good job of ripping it off and I'm ok with that.


Couple of other shows.

Rome. Crazy good.
Spartacus. Started off terrible. Really has legs now.
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:03 PM

I'm probably never going to watch it but from what I've seen from the commercials "Weeds" sounds a little bit like "Breaking Bad".
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:18 PM

I'm probably never going to watch it but from what I've seen from the commercials "Weeds" sounds a little bit like "Breaking Bad".



Forgot about that show. Yes, nearly the same premise. Right down to having a DEA agent in the family.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:03 AM

I haven't seen Weeds either, but one of my friends really likes it so maybe I will give it a shot one day.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:43 AM

I haven't seen Weeds either, but one of my friends really likes it so maybe I will give it a shot one day.


Weeds was good for the first 3 seasons, but it has really been bad the last couple of years. Probably should have wrapped it up after season 4, the storylines have gotten ridiculous.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:47 AM

Some threads being left open. Sure.

The way they buried the gun without wiping it down. It was clearly left as an opening in case they have problems with story lines.

The whole CIA on the border head exploding in the second season. It didn't do anything for the story. It looks like they were going to go somewhere with it then changed their minds.

Everyone thinking Jesse had killed the guy and getting street cred but somehow the cops don't hear about that or question him about it?


I think the writers strike in season 1 had a lot to do with those angles being cut short.
They had to wrap up the Tuco storyline in season 2, and probably had to abandon some other stuff they wanted to do. It will be great to see what they do with a full season this year.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 02:35 AM

I'm probably never going to watch it but from what I've seen from the commercials "Weeds" sounds a little bit like "Breaking Bad".


Similar, yes. However, BB is the far superor show. Weeds is also more of a comedy. This is seriously the greatest show on TV since The Sopranos and The Wire IMO,
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