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Canucks Nation has McNally with 28 virtual points in the NHL and that was based on last year.

Sign him up should be good for 35 virtual points this year!

We are on our way to a virtual Stanley Cup guarantiedlll

Seriously though this kid is going to be good for real.

Quote from Canucks Nation below:

Thanks to Gabe Desjardins and his NHL equivalency (NHLE) number, we have some rough tools that allow us to project Price's production were he to move to the NHL next season. NHLE is only intended to be a snap-shot and it has some limitations, but it's based on the offensive performance of players who moved from one league to another in consecutive seasons.

This method tends to underestimate the difficulty of leagues that are substantially weaker than the NHL. This happens because only the top players get called up to the NHL – before the call-up, they were on the first line and playing the power play; after the call-up, they’re 3rd or 4th liners. This cuts down on both their overall ice time, and on their power play time, which is when they’d get the best opportunities to score.

Thomas Drance calculated the NHLE for several Vancouver prospects back in May. Here are the defensemen:

Prospect League Age NHLE G NHLE A NHLE Pts Patrick McNally NCAA 20 6 22 28 Henrik Tömmernes SEL 21 7 13 20 Jeremy Price NCAA 21 2 18 20 Kevin Connauton AHL 22 7 9 16 Frank Corrado OHL 19 1 10 11 Adam Polasek AHL 20 1 6 7 Yann Sauvé AHL 22 2 4 6 Sawyer Hannay QMJHL 19 0 1 1

Was he also a virtual -84 for the season? Haha kidding.

Seriously though, McNally's defensive and physical game is not ready for the NHL. He looks promising though.

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Was he also a virtual -84 for the season? Haha kidding.

Seriously though, McNally's defensive and physical game is not ready for the NHL. He looks promising though.

You have to figure one of these kids are going to continue there trajectory into a Star if not Superstar player.

If Mallet continues his he should score 80 points in the AHL or 40 in the NHL given he went from 20 points or so up to 80 or so,

steep trajectory, Tanev sort of did it and players like Karlsson for Ottawa and Burrows for that matter, have made quantum leaps once or twice in there careers.

McNally has size and will fill out. Sound defensive play can be learned, he is a smart fellow. I see him as something between a Streit and Karlsson type player.

Streit was minus 27 last year but who would not want him on there team?

That makes him my pick for at least one more major leap forward and next year may be the one he makes it.

He may only be a year away but two is more likely.

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You have to figure one of these kids are going to continue there trajectory into a Star if not Superstar player.

If Mallet continues his he should score 80 points in the AHL or 40 in the NHL given he went from 20 points or so up to 80 or so,

steep trajectory, Tanev sort of did it and players like Karlsson for Ottawa and Burrows for that matter, have made quantum leaps once or twice in there careers.

McNally has size and will fill out. Sound defensive play can be learned, he is a smart fellow. I see him as something between a Streit and Karlsson type player.

Streit was minus 27 last year but who would not want him on there team?

That makes him my pick for at least one more major leap forward and next year may be the one he makes it.

He may only be a year away but two is more likely.

Really? My pick for a defensive prospect to make the NHL would be Frank Corrado, hands down. But I also think that McNally could either be a Mark Streit type 2nd pairing offensive defenseman (as he likes to compare himself) or a Marc-Andre Bergeron type 3rd pairing power play specialist defenseman.

I would rank our defensive prospects as Corrado > Connauton > Polasek > McNally > Sauve > Price personally.

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Really? My pick for a defensive prospect to make the NHL would be Frank Corrado, hands down. But I also think that McNally could either be a Mark Streit type 2nd pairing offensive defenseman (as he likes to compare himself) or a Marc-Andre Bergeron type 3rd pairing power play specialist defenseman.

I would rank our defensive prospects as Corrado > Connauton > Polasek > McNally > Sauve > Price personally.

I figure McNally has better offensive skills and instincts than Connauton, it he can learn the defensive side of it I think he has the most upside of the bunch. So I agree with your ratings with the exception of putting McNally first and Connauton second then Corrado, etc.

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McNally had a monster freshman year. I think he is a real keeper. Polasek surprised at the AHL level as well. It looks like we may actually emerge out of that draft year where we traded all our picks above round four with TWO players!!

Who would have guessed?

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McNally

Connauton

Polasek

Corrado

Sauve

How are you ranking them?

Potential to make it to the NHL as a regular (at least 8th dman):

Sauve

Corrado

Polasek

Connauton

McNally

Potential to be a top 4:

Connauton

McNally

Polasek

Corrado

Sauve

Potential to be a star:

Connauton

Connauton and McNally are boom or bust. Corrado and Sauve look like they will be bottom pairing or 7/8 guys (Corrado more of a 5/6, Sauve more of a 6/7). Polasek lies somewhere in between.

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How are you ranking them?

Potential to make it to the NHL as a regular (at least 8th dman):

Sauve

Corrado

Polasek

Connauton

McNally

Potential to be a top 4:

Connauton

McNally

Polasek

Corrado

Sauve

Potential to be a star:

Connauton

Connauton and McNally are boom or bust. Corrado and Sauve look like they will be bottom pairing or 7/8 guys (Corrado more of a 5/6, Sauve more of a 6/7). Polasek lies somewhere in between.

Corrado has more potential to be a #2 Dman than Polasek does to be top 4

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Corrado has more potential to be a #2 Dman than Polasek does to be top 4

Hard to say. I could see Polasek becoming a Bieksa-type player. Like Bieksa, Polasek is kind of flying under the radar a bit.

Corrado scored 10 goals, 65 points in 190 OHL games. Polasek scored 20 goals, 80 points in 127 QMJHL games. Polasek is also 3 inches taller and about 20lbs heavier. Corrado could become a very reliable stay-at-home guy but I don't think he has the size or offensive upside to be a top 4. Polasek has the better tools but Corrado has the better toolbox.

I am not really arguing with you. I switched them back and forth, this is just my justification. Corrado could be the type of mistake free guy you want plugging in 23 or 24 minutes per game even if he doesn't score or beat people up.

Here is why I am excited about Polasek

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Hard to say. I could see Polasek becoming a Bieksa-type player. Corrado scored only 10 goals, 65 points in 190 OHL games. Polasek scored 20 goals, 80 points in 127 QMJHL games. Polasek is also 3 inches taller and about 20lbs heavier. Corrado could become a very reliable stay-at-home guy but I don't think he has the size or offensive upside to be a top 4. Polasek has the better tools but Corrado has the better toolbox.

I am not really arguing with you. I switched them back and forth, this is just my justification. Corrado could be the type of mistake free guy you want plugging in 23 or 24 minutes per game even if he doesn't score or beat people up.

His OHl numbers dipped because his coach played him as a defense first guy. He played against the top forwards and was 1st man back on d. While I agree he's not going to become an offensive dynamo, his offense is under rated right now because sudbury needed him to play a different role

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His OHl numbers dipped because his coach played him as a defense first guy. He played against the top forwards and was 1st man back on d. While I agree he's not going to become an offensive dynamo, his offense is under rated right now because sudbury needed him to play a different role

Don't get me wrong, I really like Corrado and think he can be a top 4 guy. I originally listed him ahead of Polasek for potential top 4 but switched ithem. In terms of making the NHL I think Corrado has a much better chance. Polasek is very raw but he has the size, nastiness and offensive upside to be a pretty good defenseman. I don't really know much about his defensive play but he was a +8 as a rookie last year with the Wolves.

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Don't get me wrong, I really like Corrado and think he can be a top 4 guy. I originally listed him ahead of Polasek for potential top 4 but switched ithem. In terms of making the NHL I think Corrado has a much better chance. Polasek is very raw but he has the size, nastiness and offensive upside to be a pretty good defenseman. I don't really know much about his defensive play but he was a +8 as a rookie last year with the Wolves.

I agree with you about Polasek, but Corrado has substantial upside, he's got his 100mph shot, good wrister, good skating ability, and the ability to get it through to the net. He could be like a Tanev/Bieksa mix, gritty, good offensively, and a beast defensively

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Gillis has done very well getting quality defensemen prospects in the later rounds.

The scouting staff deserves a lot of credit. Corrado looks like a Gem and the rest look like they're trending to the NHL eventually.

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Men’s Hockey Unveils 2012-2013 Schedule

August 27, 2012

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The Crimson will play 14 home contests in 2012-13 (Photo courtesy: Thom Kendall).

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – The Harvard men's hockey team looks to take the next step following a strong finish last year, as the Crimson released its 29-game slate for the 2012-2013 school year Monday. Harvard will play 14 regular-season home contests in 2012-13, including a five-game homestand to start the season.

Ted Donato, the Robert D. Ziff '88 Head Coach for Harvard Men's Ice Hockey, returns for his eighth season behind the bench of the Crimson. During that span, the former Crimson captain has guided his club to a pair of NCAA Tournament berths and Ivy and ECAC Hockey Titles.

The Crimson will open the year within the friendly confines of the Bright Hockey Center. After an exhibition Oct. 19 against McGill, Harvard opens its regular season slate with a bout against Bentley Oct. 27. November kicks off the start of ECAC play with home contests against Brown (Nov. 2), Yale (Nov. 3) and Union (Nov. 9), and the homestand concludes against Rensselaer Nov. 10. The Crimson hits the road Nov. 16 and 17 to take on Cornell and Colgate before a layoff for the Thanksgiving holiday.

December is a light month for Harvard with just three games on the slate. The Crimson travels to Merrimack Dec. 7 and hosts UMass-Lowell Dec. 10 and Northeastern Dec. 29.

Harvard will play seven consecutive games on the road to start the 2013 portion of the schedule. The Crimson plays at Princeton (Jan. 4), Quinnipiac (Jan. 5), Boston University (Jan. 9), Dartmouth (Jan. 12), Yale (Jan. 18), Brown (Jan. 19) and Union (Jan. 22) to begin the New Year.

Harvard finally returns home Jan. 25 and 26 against Clarkson and St. Lawrence. The team heads to Rensselaer (Feb. 1) prior to a Feb. 4 showdown with Boston College at TD Garden in the opening round of the 61st Beanpot. Dartmouth heads to the Bright Center Feb. 9, and the Beanpot concludes Feb. 11 at TD Garden.

The Crimson wraps up the regular season with four of its last six games at home. Valentine's Day weekend will see Colgate (Feb. 15) and Cornell (Feb. 16) visit, before Harvard travels to St. Lawrence (Feb. 22) and Clarkson (Feb 23). The Crimson wraps up the regular season at home against Quinnipiac (March 1) and Princeton (March 2).

ECAC playoffs will begin the following weekend at to-be-determined sites with the semifinals and finals set for March 22-23 at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J.

Harvard men's hockey season tickets are now on sale and can be purchased by clicking here. Single games tickets go on sale Sept. 5.

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in anticipation of Harvard's first game of the season tomorrow:

Harvard’s Patrick McNally a real hockey D-light

By John Connolly

Thursday, October 18, 2012 - Updated 1 week ago

Patrick McNally sure knows how to leave a positive impression on those who watch him play.

Just ask his former coach at Milton Academy, his current coach at Harvard and the scouts of the Vancouver Canucks, all of whom thought enough of the defenseman to jump at the opportunity to add him to their teams.

The amazing thing about the 6-foot-2, 190-pound McNally is that he still has plenty of room to grow as a player.

“I think he has huge upside,” Harvard coach Ted Donato said of the 20-year-old from Glen Head, N.Y., who was drafted by the Canucks in the fourth round of the 2010 NHL draft with the 115th overall pick. “His skating is at an elite level. He’s really done it with a body that still has a lot of room to grow. I think he put on 10 pounds this summer. He still hasn’t filled out. He’s gotten by on just his hockey sense and skating ability and, as his physical strength improves and his shot improves, he’s only going to add more weapons to his offensive game. I think he’s one of those rare athletes where people looked at him in high school and said, ‘Well, that’s fine but he’s not going to be able to do it at that next level’ and, so far, he has. I’m not so sure that at that next level (pro), for him, he’s not going to be able to do the same kind of thing.

“He led Milton Academy to the New England Championship so, to me, he kind of had that ‘it’ factor. He kind of picked up right where he left off in high school, and makes it a lot easier than it actually is.

“We’re excited. I think he’s a winner. He seems to elevate in the biggest of games and the key moments in the games so we’re excited about his progress.”

Milton Academy coach Paul Cannata recalled the first time he watched McNally in action. Cannata had gone to scout another player in a junior league game in Long Island, N.Y., and kept noticing McNally, whose name and number weren’t listed on the roster.

“I kept asking, ‘Who’s this?’ ” said Cannata. “He had gone through a growth spurt and his (hockey) pants were about two feet above his knees. They told me he was only a sophomore. I said to myself, ‘Wow, I’ve got to get after this kid.’ ”

Cannata’s efforts worked and McNally ended up at Milton Academy, leading the team to the New England prep school title as the top scorer on a team, which also featured defenseman Jake Turrin (Amherst College), goaltender Sean Dougherty (Williams College), and Bruins [team stats] draft pick Rob O’Gara (Yale University).

“We’ve won one New England (hockey) title in about 100 years and he was the key guy,” Cannata said. “He’s just a special kid. I call him a throwback kid because he just puts on his skates and goes out and plays. He has a lot of offense. He can freewheel and he handles the puck well. He plays with a love of the game.”

That love of the game, coupled with McNally’s skating ability, Has Donato smiling as Harvard gets ready for its season to start.

“For me, some of the more interesting and fun players to watch are because they play their own game,” Donato said. “They have their own style and I think he’s like that. At times, he’s our best forward on some nights because he’s up with the rush. He really hasn’t had to give up any of his defensive responsibilities to contribute offensively. I think he’s deceptively a great skater and he does it with what seems very little effort and he has an iron lung on some of those shifts.”

McNally was paired with Ryan Grimshaw on the blue line last year as part of Harvard’s nation-leading power-play unit (27.3 percent). He earned All-ECAC rookie honors and scored four goals and added 13 assists last season. He also tied for seventh in the ECAC, first among defensemen, with seven playoff points (1-6-7).

“I think, obviously, it was a good year for the team,” said McNally, whose Crimson squad plays an exhibition game at Bright Hockey Center tomorrow against McGill before opening its season for real on Oct. 27 hosting Bentley. “I think the freshmen adapted well. I think the upperclassmen deserve a lot of credit for making the freshmen feel comfortable. I think I learned to be more aware defensively, too. In high school, I could get away with getting caught up ice because I could skate fast enough to get back. But, here, there are a lot of fast guys so you have to be on your toes. I’m just trying to play my game. I know what to expect. I’m just trying to get better and better each day.”

-—jconnolly@bostonherald.com

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in anticipation of Harvard's first game of the season tomorrow:

Thanks for the post!

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Thanks for keeping us updated on our college prospects Avalanche.

I forget about these guys sometimes. :)

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With McNally, along with Price, Hutton, Corrado, Connauton, we are looking stacked on D for the future. A very impressive, underrated corps we have here!

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