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#31 Grama

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:40 PM

I am slightly confused, it sounds like he wont be going to the NCAA next season, or at least there is a chance that he wont. Will he or wont he play for Harvard next season? And if he doesn't, why not?

I hope he does play for Harvard next season. I don't mind the fact that he will naturally take his time developing, it could make him a very good pro for a very long time. He seems like a guy with a lot of potential, I just hope he at the very least plays in the USHL if not the NCAA next season.
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 10:33 PM

[quote name='Down by the River' date='26 June 2010 - 03:00 PM' timestamp='1277589625' post='8722455']
But last year Price was drafter behind Schroeder, Rodin, and Connauton, all of whom had excellent years. For McNally, he's our top pick, despite being a fourth rounder. I think expectations will be riding higher than most fourth rounds picks just because fans will be desperate to get something out of the draft.



Good point and that could definitely be the case,depending on how things go with Keith Ballard.

I think Ballard will be the one with most of the expectations on him due to what we gave up to get him,especially if Grabner really produces in FLA and Howden has a big year in Jr.If Ballard turns out to be a key player in a good cup run then the deal will be look great and McNally won't have much pressure beyond that of a typical 4th rounder. However,if Ballard is a flop or gets injured,then the fan base will really start to focus on McNally as someone who can hopefully salvage something from this draft.

Personally,I think trading for Ballard was a good move even if it did mean losing our 1st round pick.

Also,Patrick McNally sounds like he could have a similar upside to some of the 1st round D-men but is a much riskier pick due to not being able see him compete against better competition.Hopefully he can continue to raise his game as he moves along and turns out to be a major draft day steal.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 10:41 AM

Favourite pick of the this year's draft by us, but I guess that's expected, because it's the highest. McNally is a big guy, but he's mobile and has pretty good hands.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:35 PM

Was Gillis on 1040 or NHL Network or something?? I must have missed it, shart


The interview is on CDC Home page.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:14 PM

[quote name='Grama' date='26 June 2010 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1277610024' post='8723383']
I am slightly confused, it sounds like he wont be going to the NCAA next season, or at least there is a chance that he wont.  Will he or wont he play for Harvard next season?  And if he doesn't, why not?
I hope he does play for Harvard next season.  I don't mind the fact that he will naturally take his time developing, it could make him a very good pro for a very long time.  He seems like a guy with a lot of potential, I just hope he at the very least plays in the USHL if not the NCAA next season.



I was wondering that myself but the HF article that was quoted earlier made it sound like he's playing another year at the same prep school.This was also stated in one of the province/sun articles today so it sounds like he wont play at Harvard until the following year which means he's probably 5 years away from turning pro unless he quits school early.
Good thing MG has already acquired Oberg,Connauton,and Tanev and they're turning pro next year as McNally is likely to be long term project.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 05:02 PM

He very well could be a steal...that said...he is several years away from the NHL and the fact that he is attending Harvard makes me wonder if he could be lost to a different career path.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 05:26 PM

I think Mcnally could be a massive steal. He has all the assets to be a great puck moving/power play quarterback D-man but it's just hard to evaluate him because he played in a crappy high school league. I think after 3 or 4 years of college he will be able to step in and make a difference.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 08:17 PM

He very well could be a steal...that said...he is several years away from the NHL and the fact that he is attending Harvard makes me wonder if he could be lost to a different career path.



that's the reason why he dropped so much (and the fact that he's committed to Harvard for 3 years, although I guess he could leave after two like Schroeder did (i think?), I expect him to play hockey though, and get a decent job after he retires.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:31 AM

“I talked about that with a lot of teams,” said McNally, who has been told by more than one scout that his style of play is similar to that Washington Capitals defenceman Mike Green. “I think I’d be willing after two years, if the team thought I was ready and if I thought I was ready, to maybe make the jump. But at this time, I can’t really say.” “It’s really up to the Canucks organization,” he added. “But I’m hoping that I’ll be ready as soon as I possibly can be.”


Good news, I thought he was going to stay at school for the full 4 years. Another steal pick by Gillis.



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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:40 AM

hopefully he's a little bit better than Mike Green in his own end but if he can produce that type of offense from the back end then he would be fun to watch. 2 years of NCAA and maybe another year with the Moose and he probably could challenge for a spot but the thing is would he be willing to leave early to play in the AHL or would he rather wait out the 4 in order to make the jump to the NHL.
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Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:22 PM

article from CDC homepage....

McNally's Marathon
Tuesday, 13.07.2010 / 5:34 AM / News Features By Farhan Devji

Patrick McNally woke up on June 26 knowing that his name could be called at some point during the second day of the NHL entry draft, but he didn't want to sit around waiting – at least not right away.


"I was a little tense when I woke up so I went and worked out for a little bit," said McNally from his home in Glen Head, New York, having just finished another work out session. "Then I came back, and my family had a barbeque at my house."

With his mother, father, sister, and grandfather by his side, McNally eventually turned on the television and waited patiently to see his name pop up on the screen. But it never did.

Posted Image "I was watching on TV, but I actually didn't see it come up," said McNally, who models his game after New York Islanders defenceman Mark Streit. "But my adviser was there and he called to congratulate me and I was ecstatic."

"It feels good; it's an honour," he added. "Both me and my family were really happy."

The Vancouver Canucks used their fourth-round pick (115th overall) to select the offensive defenceman who led Massachusetts prep school Milton Academy in scoring last season with 35 points in 28 games. And though this week is his first time in Vancouver, McNally couldn't be happier.

"I know they have a great fan base in Western Canada and I know that people out there love hockey. I'm just really excited."

After meeting with Canucks scout Brian Chapman this past season at Milton Academy, and after speaking with the team's management at the recent NHL draft combine in Toronto, McNally knew the Canucks were interested but he still "had no idea" where he would end up. And can you blame him? The U.S. prep school defenceman of the year interviewed with 18 NHL teams at the combine, in addition to meeting with six teams at school and receiving a few phone calls to boot.

Clearly, McNally's abilities had intrigued a number of different NHL teams, but the general consensus is that the lesser competition he faces at prep school along with his decision to attend Harvard University played a role in his free fall at this year's entry draft. When asked how long he intends to remain at Harvard before making the jump to the professional ranks, McNally said that wasn't the first time he's heard the question.

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"I talked about that with a lot of teams," said McNally, who has been told by more than one scout that his style of play is similar to that Washington Capitals defenceman Mike Green. "I think I'd be willing after two years, if the team thought I was ready and if I thought I was ready, to maybe make the jump. But at this time, I can't really say."

"It's really up to the Canucks organization," he added. "But I'm hoping that I'll be ready as soon as I possibly can be."

McNally intends on spending one more season at Milton Academy before joining the Harvard University Crimson in the fall of 2011. And although he was drafted by the USHL's Indiana Ice, he doesn't see them in his future. He does, however, hope to one day see the Canucks in his future, even though becoming a professional hockey player never used to be something he strived for.

"I've always worked hard in hockey, but I've always worked not necessarily to become a pro, but just to get better and maybe play in college," said McNally, whose philosophy was similar to that of recently acquired defenceman Keith Ballard. "But now that this is a reality and it's a possibility that I could turn pro, that's just going to motivate me even more and I'm going to work even harder."

Following this week's prospects development camp in Vancouver, McNally will return to Long Island, where he will be skating four times a week with Lithuanian skills coach Aleksey Nikiforov – who has worked with Leafs defenceman Mike Komisarek, Ottawa Senators forward Alexei Kovalev, New York Rangers defenceman Matt Gilroy, and others – while continuing to hit the gym.

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McNally doesn't have to wait for his name to be called by an NHL team anymore, but he still knows there's a long road ahead, thanks to advice from his dad – a football player turned FBI agent.

"He always used to tell me since I was little that sports aren't a sprint, they're a marathon," said McNally. "You'd see all these kids who were so much better than me, so he'd tell me sports aren't a sprint, they're a marathon so keep working hard and eventually you'll get to where you want to be."

That's what McNally's done, and that's what he's going to continue to do.


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Posted 13 July 2010 - 09:26 PM

I don't get why he's going back to prep school. He's turning 19 in December so he should be able to attend Harvard next season.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 01:05 AM

I wonder if he would be chosen for the USA WJC team if Eligible.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:21 PM

I don't get why he's going back to prep school. He's turning 19 in December so he should be able to attend Harvard next season.


Except he's going into Grade 12. Kind of an issue.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 07:57 PM

Hurricane Patrick Mcnally.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:22 PM

Except he's going into Grade 12. Kind of an issue.


Really? High School must work differently in the eastern states because I'm 16 and I'm going into Grade 12.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:57 PM

I wonder if he would be chosen for the USA WJC team if Eligible.


He was not even selected for the evaluation camp. I don't see the WJC in his foreseeable future. There are just too many USA defensemen who are further along in their development.
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 03:08 PM

Really? High School must work differently in the eastern states because I'm 16 and I'm going into Grade 12.


It might be a prep school thing. All I know is that every article I've read says he was a junior last year.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 01:38 AM

"I'm really excited to play for Coach [Ted] Donato, Coach [Patrick] Foley and Coach [Bobby] Jay: that's why I chose Harvard, because I really felt comfortable with the coaching staff. I liked each of them a lot, and I'm getting real excited to play for them."


Harvard has the potential to have a pretty good future defensive tandem in McNally, and fellow 2010 draft pick (Carolina), Danny Biega.

M.G. seems to have an affinity for defenceman of the McNally ilk. Puck movers who possess strong skating skills and solid hockey IQ's. They may not play a particularly physical brand of hockey, but rather, generally rely on smart sticks, good lateral mobility and solid body positioning in order to separate their opponent from the puck. McNally, Oberg, Tanev and Connauton seem to be similar breeds of D-Men in this sense.

Gillis has certainly worked hard at replenishing the Canucks defensive cupboard and in his short time has added some solid picks to the prospect pool... I'm certainly liking the look of things. :canucks:

Edit: Off Topic a bit as it doesn't involve McNally (happened before his time), but does involve his current school; Milton Academy,.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 03:24 AM

Harvard has the potential to have a pretty good future defensive tandem in McNally, and fellow 2010 draft pick (Carolina), Danny Biega.

M.G. seems to have an affinity for defenceman of the McNally ilk. Puck movers who possess strong skating skills and solid hockey IQ's. They may not play a particularly physical brand of hockey, but rather, generally rely on smart sticks, good lateral mobility and solid body positioning in order to separate their opponent from the puck. McNally, Oberg, Tanev and Connauton seem to be similar breeds of D-Men in this sense.

Gillis has certainly worked hard at replenishing the Canucks defensive cupboard and in his short time has added some solid picks to the prospect pool... I'm certainly liking the look of things. :canucks:

I'd say similar to Rafalski/Lidstrom etc. We know how effective those players have been post-lockout and Gillis is following their mold. At least he has a good idea of the player trends in the new NHL.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:11 PM

McNally looked really good in the 3 on 3 in the development camp. I wouldn't be surprised if he got serious consideration for the USAs U20s
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:37 PM

McNally looked really good in the 3 on 3 in the development camp. I wouldn't be surprised if he got serious consideration for the USAs U20s


Because a guy's scrimmage ability translates to being a top player in the USA?

As i said earlier:

He was not even selected for the evaluation camp. I don't see the WJC in his foreseeable future. There are just too many USA defensemen who are further along in their development.


I like McNally as much as the next person, but he is in no way further in development RIGHT NOW than the guys invited to their camp, which includes all '91s, and '92s.

Fowler
Merrill
Tinordi
Forbort
Faulk
Leddy

Dumoulin/Wey/Archibald/Johns/Ramage/Hell even 2011 eligible Clendening

They are all further along than McNally. Where would he even fit in the top 6??

http://www.usahockey...01_06&ID=288572

At least research before misleading casual followers into thinking there is even a slight chance he gets consideration.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:20 PM

Harvard has the potential to have a pretty good future defensive tandem in McNally, and fellow 2010 draft pick (Carolina), Danny Biega.

M.G. seems to have an affinity for defenceman of the McNally ilk. Puck movers who possess strong skating skills and solid hockey IQ's. They may not play a particularly physical brand of hockey, but rather, generally rely on smart sticks, good lateral mobility and solid body positioning in order to separate their opponent from the puck. McNally, Oberg, Tanev and Connauton seem to be similar breeds of D-Men in this sense.

Gillis has certainly worked hard at replenishing the Canucks defensive cupboard and in his short time has added some solid picks to the prospect pool... I'm certainly liking the look of things. :canucks:


Agreed - better to draft D-men with puck skill rather than physicality or toughness etc. You can always coach a guy to be more physical, and in Edler's case he became a physical force in the LA series. Not sure but I don't think many people ever saw that in him. It's better to draft guys with skill and then coach them to be meaner, more physical etc as opposed to the other way around.

Other than that, anyone else concerned over the lack of shut-down D-men we have in the system? Other than Ellington, Sauve etc.? After Mitchell leaves or retires one day we're going to be awfully short on this type of D-man - a guy who excels at shutting down the opposition's top players. Right now we do have a lot of 2-way guys and offensive defensemen in the prospect pool.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:01 PM

Because a guy's scrimmage ability translates to being a top player in the USA?

As i said earlier:


I like McNally as much as the next person, but he is in no way further in development RIGHT NOW than the guys invited to their camp, which includes all '91s, and '92s.

Fowler
Merrill
Tinordi
Forbort
Faulk
Leddy

Dumoulin/Wey/Archibald/Johns/Ramage/Hell even 2011 eligible Clendening

They are all further along than McNally. Where would he even fit in the top 6??

http://www.usahockey...01_06&ID=288572

At least research before misleading casual followers into thinking there is even a slight chance he gets consideration.


Fair enough. In any case I'm very interested in how he performs next year, and if he manages to make the team over any of those players (not saying he will, I've heard of them all before) I will be happy. Like I said, I was impressed with his play and other than maybe Schroeder he really stuck out to me.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:57 PM

Harvard has the potential to have a pretty good future defensive tandem in McNally, and fellow 2010 draft pick (Carolina), Danny Biega.

M.G. seems to have an affinity for defenceman of the McNally ilk. Puck movers who possess strong skating skills and solid hockey IQ's. They may not play a particularly physical brand of hockey, but rather, generally rely on smart sticks, good lateral mobility and solid body positioning in order to separate their opponent from the puck. McNally, Oberg, Tanev and Connauton seem to be similar breeds of D-Men in this sense.

Gillis has certainly worked hard at replenishing the Canucks defensive cupboard and in his short time has added some solid picks to the prospect pool... I'm certainly liking the look of things. :canucks:

Edit: Off Topic a bit as it doesn't involve McNally (happened before his time), but does involve his current school; Milton Academy,.

milton academy hockey scandal



Yeah its a total new way looking at D-men because the old thinking (even now) is the measurables, or attributes like a hard shot all of a sudden the guy is branded as a can't miss prospect. In this era, D-men need to be much smarter in their own end because the game is just that fast. Not necessarilly destroying guys through the boards, but just being positionally sound and anticipating how the play is gonna develop like where the passes are gonna be. An example would be Bryan McCabe. This guy is great on the powerplay, got a hard shot, pretty decent breakout pass, but hes a total moron (even more than Bieksa and Alberts, like light years) in his own zone. Then theres a guy like Salo, yeah he's old, but notice how the team's record is better with Salo in the lineup? Not just this year, but even years ago, yes he does have a hard shot...but do you see him plowing guys over, or roughing it up after scrums? Nope. He's not the fastest skater but in the PK, he doesn't do much, but the puck somehow ends up in his stick whether its behind the net or in front of the net which ends up being cleared. He just knows where to go, thats why AV speaks so glowingly off him as well as the commentators. I wish some fans just see how good Salo is beyond his big shot, because other than that, the guy is a smart player.

But ya anyways to McNally, I've just scene some clips of him, its kinda hard to judge whether he's gonna pan out or not (its the competition, i mean its high school hockey) but if MG says he's got some good IQ then i'll probably be on the more optimistic boat. I also like his way of thinking on prospects that are intune with improving themselves with education which correlates to them maybe looking for ways to improve themselves on the ice. I have to admit i like the sound of it, its a far stretch from what the thinking was the past 2-3 decades
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:34 PM

I found this article on Hockey's Future from a while back and found it interesting

http://www.hockeysfu...atrick_mcnally/

Scoring 14 goals and 34 points in 27 games is tough as a defenseman. It's even tougher in the ultra-competitive Independent School League.

Patrick McNally jumped 44 spots between the mid-term and final Central Scouting rankings this spring.

Milton Academy's leading scorer gets more impressive all the time. Ranked 40th in Central Scouting's final list, the Glen Head, N.Y. native is Harvard-bound after one more year of prep hockey – a year in which he would gladly eschew all personal achievements in favor of a New England Prep Elite Eight title.

Whether he likes it or not, the awards may follow. This year's New England Prep School Defenseman of the Year and U.S. Hockey Report Prep Defenseman of the Year could probably suit up for most D-I teams here and now. For McNally and Milton head coach Paul Cannata, next year is all about fine-tuning and getting the most out of one more season.

"He's a strong skater on the back end, good puck skills and vision, poise almost to a fault with the puck," said Cannata. "He's got a high level of puck comfort. He loves going on offense, loves to create offense, loves to play on his toes. He plays with energy, he's a good kid, a good student."

Another product of Long Island's esteemed P.A.L. youth program, which has produced pros like Chris Higgins, Eric Nystrom and Mike Komisarek, McNally seems to have the pedigree necessary for a successful career in the sport. The son of a University of Colombia football player, McNally also won a national crown with the Boston Jr. Bruins U18 midgets, and was coached by a hockey skills guru for the better part of a decade.

"I used to skate every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday morning with this coach, Alexei Nikiforov [who works with Komisarek and many within the Islanders' organization] from when I was 8 through when I was 16. I just kept getting better. He always emphasized skating and puck-handling ability," McNally said.

Following some sound advice and a good word from then-Yale assistant coach C.J. Marottolo (now the head coach at Sacred Heart), Cannata and McNally were united in Milton, Mass., and McNally's stock began to soar.

It was hard for scouts not to notice the attention-grabbing blue-liner. After all, he wasn't the team's top offensive producer by accident.

"He's a leader through his play. He loves to have the puck, and he has the puck a lot," described Cannata. "He certainly loves to play with the puck. If he doesn't have the puck, he wants to get the puck, and ... it's certainly a strength of his. He's certainly good with the puck and he's going to be around the puck, even as a defenseman.

"Somehow, he's going to be involved in moving the puck up-ice and in all three zones, that puck's going to go through Pat. He also plays with a sense of, 'if I don't have the puck, how can I get the puck back?', more so than your typical stay-at-home, Steady Eddie defenseman. Pat wants the puck."

"I love the power play. My favorite situation's a five-on-three," confirmed the playmaking puckster.

Like any teenage prospect, the potential for size and strength can be difficult to peg. But given his genetics, current build and work ethic, the issue of bulk shouldn't be a big one for McNally.

"He's obviously a long body. He's a pretty skinny kid at the moment, so I think people will perceive that there's a physical upside that way," said Cannata. "His father is a good-sized guy, a former football player. Patrick's young, and even on the young side of his age group in terms of overall physical development, so there's certainly an upside. He's certainly going to grow and fill out a bit."

From the player's perspective, he's been "steadily gaining weight all season," he said, and has a target weight of 195 by the end of the summer.

One thing the prospect won't need to work on is his skating, as he considers his "skating ability and my ability to move the puck, more than anything," to be his strongest suits.

The defenseman looks to a solid yet underrated pro for inspiration, and it doesn't hurt that he plays on McNally's favorite team.

"I love watching Mark Streit. I'm a big Islanders fan, and I like the way he plays," he said of the Swiss Olympian. "When I was younger, I loved Kenny Jonsson. He was the captain of the Islanders when I was young, and he played defense, so I looked up to him."

"Tom Poti comes to mind," said Cannata, when asked who McNally might compare to down the road. "Somebody else who comes to mind -- though the height isn't quite the same -- is Brian Rafalski, who's a guy that was probably one of the first of this new breed of post-NHL-lockout defensemen. Those types of guys, he's a poor-man's version of right now."

Cannata isn't impressed simply with his star's on-ice abilities; he's an asset in civvies, too.

"He's a super kid. I guess I would describe him as affable. He's a cheery kid, he's a friendly kid, he's a positive kid; he's not that defenseman that functions with a snarl, and he doesn't live that way either," praised the coach. "He's a good student, he's a real positive, energetic young man. He's a good lacrosse player. He's athletic, he's academic, he's a good kid socially. There's no question that that all adds to his package or intrigue as well."

McNally knows that he still has to focus harder on his defensive responsibilities, along with continuing to learn the more nuanced aspects of the game, like vision and "picking his spots," as Cannata put it.

But mostly, he's simply excited about hockey.

"I'm really excited to play for Coach [Ted] Donato, Coach [Patrick] Foley and Coach [Bobby] Jay: that's why I chose Harvard, because I really felt comfortable with the coaching staff. I liked each of them a lot, and I'm getting real excited to play for them."




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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:44 PM

hmm, i guess after reading an article like that its hard not to think that MG has hit another home run
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:47 PM

He seems like a good young player hopefully he turns out to be a huge steal for us in a couple years


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:48 PM

hmm, i guess after reading an article like that its hard not to think that MG has hit another home run


Yeah, I read that one a while back. It's a nice article and a good read but you have to take it for what it is.

Articles written about prospects around the time of their draft that rely on interviews with the player and his coaches tend to be very biased and extremely positive sounding.

I really like the McNally pick and I believe he has a good chance but he's many years away from playing professional hockey and so many things can happen during that time.

We won't know for quite a few years whether MG hit this one out of the park or simply whiffed on it. The good thing is that MG seems to swing for the fences and has a pretty good average so far.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:49 PM

Yeah, hopefully another steal by Gillis :D
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