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Are you happy we drafted Patrick?

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#631 DeNiro

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:56 PM

They traded for Kassian who has been taken into police custody for fighting at bars. I don't think they mind if someone cheated on a test.


Yea, cause 19 and 20 year old kids never make mistakes.

I don't think they're going to avoid players cause they made a mistake in their life. As long as it's not a pattern, they realize that they're human.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

is Gillis going to sign McNally now that the lockout is over?
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

is Gillis going to sign McNally now that the lockout is over?

http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog.com/2012/12/10/3752854/ecac-hockey-harvard-removes-4-players-according-to-report

sounds like he'd be eligible to go back to harvard next year, so that would probably be what happens
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

http://www.westernco...rding-to-report

sounds like he'd be eligible to go back to harvard next year, so that would probably be what happens


Would ruin his development if he missed a full season now though. It all depends on what his priorities are. Hopefully he was just waiting for the lockout to end so the Canucks could sign him right away and Throw Him To The Wolves.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

is Gillis going to sign McNally now that the lockout is over?

probably
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:52 PM

Would ruin his development if he missed a full season now though. It all depends on what his priorities are. Hopefully he was just waiting for the lockout to end so the Canucks could sign him right away and Throw Him To The Wolves.


While I agree it wouldn't be ideal to miss a season, his defense isn't good enough to play pro right now
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:14 PM

While I agree it wouldn't be ideal to miss a season, his defense isn't good enough to play pro right now


Would still be better than him missing a full year though IMO.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

Would still be better than him missing a full year though IMO.

agreed. i'd rather im play in the ECHL or in europe than have him miss a year.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:23 PM

agreed. i'd rather im play in the ECHL or in europe than have him miss a year.


ECHL is a prospect graveyard though, there isn't more than a handful of quality nhl'ers to come through there
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

ECHL is a prospect graveyard though, there isn't more than a handful of quality nhl'ers to come through there

you know what's a bigger prospect graveyard? not playing hockey, at all.

Edited by avelanch, 06 January 2013 - 11:25 PM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:37 PM

you know what's a bigger prospect graveyard? not playing hockey, at all.

It could be thought of like an injury situation, just like tearing a knee, but instead he can use the time to bulk up
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:42 PM

It could be thought of like an injury situation, just like tearing a knee, but instead he can use the time to bulk up

losing a year right now is not going to make his game any better, even if he "bulks up" right now.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:46 PM

losing a year right now is not going to make his game any better, even if he "bulks up" right now.


Getting benched in pro hockey because he can't play defense is going to hurt his game, you need confidence to play your best
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

Hopefully this radification gets done quickly, I would actually like to see Patrick play with the Wolves for a game or 2 (before they probably send him down)

It would be nice to be able to see him play live for myself.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:48 PM

Getting benched in pro hockey because he can't play defense is going to hurt his game, you need confidence to play your best

who the hell said he can't play defence anyway? just because he's a offensive defenceman? the kid was +2 this year before he was booted (+3 if you count his game against McGill)

Edited by avelanch, 06 January 2013 - 11:52 PM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:57 PM

who the hell said he can't play defence anyway? just because he's a offensive defenceman? the kid was +2 this year before he was booted (+3 if you count his game against McGill)

-7 last year even while playing with the team's best defensive defenseman, and being one of the top scorers http://www.hockeysfu...y-ticket-to-nhl

Every article I've found about him all say the same thing, great offensive skills and skating, needs to focus on defense though.

Also, both hockeydb and eliteprospects have him as a 0 not a +2
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:17 AM

-7 last year even while playing with the team's best defensive defenseman, and being one of the top scorers http://www.hockeysfu...y-ticket-to-nhl

Every article I've found about him all say the same thing, great offensive skills and skating, needs to focus on defense though.

Also, both hockeydb and eliteprospects have him as a 0 not a +2

well they are incorrect:
http://www.gocrimson...rickmcnallyxo41

and he was -6 as a freshman
http://www.gocrimson...neup&pos=sk&r=0

and he didn't play on the same pairing as Biega except on the PP, which is where the majority of his points came from.

Edited by avelanch, 07 January 2013 - 12:22 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:24 PM

echl isn't ideal, but neither was him getting the boot from harvard. If he wants to be a pro hockey player, hes gonna have to go unconventional route because of his situation. I would rather see him go international, maybe allsvenskan?
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:15 AM

ECHL isn't necessarily a prospect graveyard. If you put a good prospect down there it doesn't change the fact that he's a good prospect - he's still going to dominate given opportunity and some linemates to work with. Archibald really improved after his year down there.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:20 AM

ECHL isn't necessarily a prospect graveyard. If you put a good prospect down there it doesn't change the fact that he's a good prospect - he's still going to dominate given opportunity and some linemates to work with. Archibald really improved after his year down there.


Actually yeah I agree, I saw a number somewhere that 490 Players in the NHL have played in the ECHL.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

Getting benched in pro hockey because he can't play defense is going to hurt his game, you need confidence to play your best


And you gain confidence in your hockey game by bulking up and taking a year off? Makes sense to me...
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:06 AM

Yea, cause 19 and 20 year old kids never make mistakes.
I don't think they're going to avoid players cause they made a mistake in their life. As long as it's not a pattern, they realize that they're human.

That is not the issue.Of course,everybody makes mistakes.
However,Gillis is the 'character' GM and this event took place on his watch.
Kassian's dust up was a matter of testosterone or alcohol or bad judgement or whatever.
This was dishonesty.
So,you have no idea how the organisation views it.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

Found this tweet re: McNally

Farhan Devji @farhandevji 11m
I'm told #Canucks prospect Pat McNally has been skating with an Eastern Junior Hockey League team. Was removed from Harvard's roster in Dec.
Retweeted by passittobulis
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

Found this tweet re: McNally

Farhan Devji @farhandevji 11m
I'm told #Canucks prospect Pat McNally has been skating with an Eastern Junior Hockey League team. Was removed from Harvard's roster in Dec.
Retweeted by passittobulis
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Jeremie Blain just got recalled from the Idaho Steelheads to the Chicago Wolves. I wonder if it is Idaho or Kalamazoo he is skating with?
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:26 PM

Jeremie Blain just got recalled from the Idaho Steelheads to the Chicago Wolves. I wonder if it is Idaho or Kalamazoo he is skating with?


hes with an EJHL team according to that report, not ECHL.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

yeah, he's skating with a minor league team, meaning he's keeping his amateur status right now while he mulls over what to do. smart move to keep all option open.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:33 PM

I don't cheat at UBC... The only thing I have cheated on are the little problems worth 0.25% of your mark, and I think I learn better that way. Then again, my average is in the 60's so maybe I should cheat (kidding).


.... "I don't do A. I only do A a little bit when it has little effect..."

If this had been a test and he had cheated in some way it would be a different story, but generally speaking take home exams are a bit of a joke, especially if they are not essay's. I am under the opinion that the only take home exams should be essays, and complex problems (ie problems that require many hours of work, like many programming assignments).


Also PS. If you are seriously worried about your average, most graduate schools in Canada are only/mainly concerned with your upper year (300 and 400 level) courses.

I know for Math/Mathematical finance that none of the graduate schools I have looked at have CGPA requirements other then really low ones like 2.0-2.5, just make sure your GPA on major courses and your last four semester is good (assuming graduate school is a goal).
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

Yea, cause 19 and 20 year old kids never make mistakes.

I don't think they're going to avoid players cause they made a mistake in their life. As long as it's not a pattern, they realize that they're human.

I think he was just guilty of following the herd and he got caught in a dragnet.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

we need a cheater , we got 2 jolly gingers and bible thumping booth
it'll even things up

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