masutheakita Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I respect you, but wow do I ever hate that phrase. So, when these 10 guilty men go free and get to destroy more innocent lives, that is "better". I've never understood that. I get that trials are put in place to ensure that innocent people do not become wrongly convicted. Yes, that would be terrible. But, when you have cases where the person is proven guilty and then gets a pathetic sentence, only to be released after a few years to live in our society and terrorize us once again...you have to admit that there is something very very flawed there. That's when justice is favouring those who have made selfish, harmful choices and the rest of the members of society who strive to live our lives being respectful to others get shafted. Look at how many times you read in the paper that someone has had "a lengthy criminal record". I cringe when I hear of people having been released when I know that it was only a little while ago that I was reading of their horrific crime. AAANNNDDD...if these people are to be released, where is THEIR support systems to make the right choices? The door opens and out they walk...no help or support for them. That's not right either, as those people who face challenges themselves and take it out on others don't have a chance, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EX_Bert_Worshipper Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 sentencing and parole have nothing to do with that phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I respect you, but wow do I ever hate that phrase. So, when these 10 guilty men go free and get to destroy more innocent lives, that is "better". I've never understood that. I get that trials are put in place to ensure that innocent people do not become wrongly convicted. Yes, that would be terrible. But, when you have cases where the person is proven guilty and then gets a pathetic sentence, only to be released after a few years to live in our society and terrorize us once again...you have to admit that there is something very very flawed there. That's when justice is favouring those who have made selfish, harmful choices and the rest of the members of society who strive to live our lives being respectful to others get shafted. Look at how many times you read in the paper that someone has had "a lengthy criminal record". I cringe when I hear of people having been released when I know that it was only a little while ago that I was reading of their horrific crime. AAANNNDDD...if these people are to be released, where is THEIR support systems to make the right choices? The door opens and out they walk...no help or support for them. That's not right either, as those people who face challenges themselves and take it out on others don't have a chance, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Are sentences too short? Personally I don't think so. Idont see how increasing sentences is realistically going to benefit society. It may give people peace of mind but that's very much different than on the ground results which is crime reduction. Stricter sentences do not act as deferents past a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Err on the side of public safety, not the criminals' rights? One reoffense by a released ex-con is one too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Ahhh but public safety wouldn't be protected. At least in the long run. Short term there might be some benefits but in the long run it would mean all citizens would have to worry. Innocent until proven guilty is critical to freedom. Stricter sentences don't reduce the threat. US would be a case in point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Ahhh but public safety wouldn't be protected. At least in the long run. Short term there might be some benefits but in the long run it would mean all citizens would have to worry. Innocent until proven guilty is critical to freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Anyways, one major benefit to long sentences is that it's much easier to get people to rat on each other, which in turn makes taking down major organizations much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Two Hell's Angels allegedly speeding to the funeral of Laura Szendrei at speeds of up to 160kph (see video) had their bikes seized: RCMP have seized the Harleys of two full-patch Hells Angels after they allegedly raced across the Lower Mainland at speeds of up to 160 kilometres an hour on their way to the funeral of slain teen Laura Szendrei. The two men were wearing their deathhead patches when they whipped past an unmarked police car on Highway 1 near 200th Street in Langley close to noon Wednesday. "Police were attempting to pace the bikes to determine speed but were unable to keep up with the motorcyclists as they rode side-by-side dangerously at extreme speeds from lane to lane and passing on shoulders," Sgt. Peter Thiessen said Friday. The RCMP's Air 1 helicopter was nearby and filmed the bikers as they continued along the Trans-Canada, eventually exiting on First Avenue in Vancouver. The video shows them passing cars all along the highway, often riding in tandem. The leather-wearing twosome was stopped by Burnaby RCMP near the clubhouse of the elite Nomad Chapter of the Hells Angels on Grant Street just east of Boundary. Thiessen said one of the drivers complied with police when they told him he had been speeding and that they were seizing his Harley for a week under the new excessive speed legislation. He was presented with violation tickets for excessive speed and riding in tandem. Thiessen said the other biker ignored police and disappeared into a crowd of Hells Angels in full colours on the street in front of the clubhouse. "He didn't heed to the police being there and he just walked right away," Thiessen said. But police ran the plate and found the registered owner close by. "He denied being the driver so he was charged under the registered owner legislation of the Motor Vehicle Act," Thiessen said. The large gathering of bikers can be seen on the helicopter surveillance video. Thiessen said he couldn't comment on why the Hells Angels was congregating outside the Nomads clubhouse just after noon Wednesday. But the Sun has learned they were preparing to ride in formation to the funeral of Szendrei, the 15-year-old girl beaten to death in North Delta Sept. 25. Delta police confirmed Thursday that Hells Angels were at the funeral because some bikers are friends with the teen's father. "We were aware that there were members of the Hells Angels at this funeral. They were there to pay tribute to a friend whose daughter was tragically taken from him," Sgt. Sharlene Brooks said. The two bikers ticketed in Wednesday's police incident were 35-year-old Gaston Methot and Mike Robatzek, a 40-year-old Hells Angel from the Vancouver Chapter. Thiessen said the bikers were at times doing twice the legal limit in a construction zone. "There is considerable construction along Highway 1 and the public needs to be aware of construction site speed limits, for their own safety and the safety of those working at these sites," Thiessen said. "For those who ignore those speed limits, Air 1 continues to be a valuable tool for police in the Lower Mainland, allowing us to track drivers without putting the public at further risk." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerGenuineDraft Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 We're selling "I <heart> L.S." shirts at our school, 10$ each, the money going to the charity that Laura's parents are supporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Delta Police will provide an update on Friday morning on the investigation into the murder of 15-year-old Laura Szendrei, officials said this evening. http://www.vancouversun.com/Update+Laura+Szendrei+murder+investigation+coming+Friday+police/3640615/story.html#ixzz11jEpjUxW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Not all that much of an update from Delta Police: Delta police say they may have identified a person of interest in Laura Szendrei’s murder — but they have not yet talked to him. At a news conference Friday near Szendrei’s memorial on the border of North Delta’s Mackie Park, police spokeswoman Sgt. Sharlene Brooks said public tips have lead to the possible identification of a suspicious person in the case. He was seen walking from the park at about the time of Laura’s attack, and is described as 16 to 25 years old, with a medium build, wearing a white short-sleeved shirt and cargo-style shorts to the knees. Police have not interviewed the person, Brooks said. Asked to explain further, Brooks said only that the person has not come forward, and that police are still going through information about him. She would not say if he is a local high school student. Fifteen-year-old Szendrei was found badly beaten in Delta’s Mackie Park on Sept. 25. She died the next day in hospital, surrounded by her family. Brooks renewed her plea to the public to call in tips and, in particular, for anyone in the Mackie Park area on the day of the murder who may have seen or heard anything suspicious to call police. In the backdrop of the news conference — a location purposefully chosen to “jog” the public’s memory — was a growing memorial to the dead teen, with fresh piles of yellow roses, a balloon and photos of her smiling with friends. Brooks said about 55 officers are currently working the case and additional help may be called in. To date, police have fielded more than 350 tips, but they’re still not ready to say whether they believe the killing was random or targeted, Brooks said. A pepper-spray incident between Szendrei and her friends and another group of teenagers a week prior to her murder has been ruled out as motivation for her murder, she added. Police are continuing to probe a number of attacks on women running or jogging near the area of the murder in previous months, Brooks said. They are asking those in the community to continue walking in groups, and are warning joggers not to run wearing headphones. At the news conference, a group of girls who identified themselves as Szendrei’s best friends said they were disappointed because they were yearning to hear something “more positive” about the investigation. Nicole Yuen, 15, said Szendrei’s friends are certain the killing was random. “No way it was targeted,” Yuen said while trying to contain her emotions. “No one would hurt Laura. No one.” The girls and some male teens with them said they are still in fear, and always walk in groups. Brooks said police will be reopening the entire park to the public, but stressed that the move is not a sign that the investigation is being scaled back.http://www.theprovince.com/news/Delta+police+target+person+interest+Laura+Szendrei+murder/3640884/story.html#ixzz11o1wZ1vS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I wish there was SOME movement on this. They really need to catch this creep. I hate seeing my girlfriend be too afraid to go running in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerGenuineDraft Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 My buddy made a song for Laura, that caught the media's attention. I think you guys should really check it out. http://www.myspace.com/lilfrak No Respect (LS Tribute) There's a lot of meaning in this song, especially in regards to the past 2 months. http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=1620214365 Starting at 33:22, interview with him. http://www.theprovince.com/Teen+raps+tribute+dead+friend/3697760/story.html RIP Laura Szendrei <3 I'll love you forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmy_Canuck Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 It was likely a highschool dispute. The murderer is more than likely a minor and will be caught. Sadly, if the killer is a minor, the sentence will be lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 In the US we are starting to up the penalty for minors in cases like this. It is sad, these teenagers know right from wrong and I am sorry but they should be tried as an adult minus the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Sounds like not much headway being made in the investigation of the murder. North Delta residents are organizing a Walk, Run and Roll in memory of Laura Szendrei on Sunday, April 10, 2011. Nearly five months after popular teen Laura Szendrei was murdered in broad daylight, Darlene McLean's daughter still won't go for a jog outdoors. "Neither will her friends, because it's a matter of them feeling safe," McLean said. "I was angry about that, that they'd run on a treadmill inside instead of going outside to get their exercise." To help make North Delta a safer place, McLean and others are organizing a Walk, Run and Roll in memory of Laura Szendrei on Sunday, April 10. The event began life several months ago as a "take back the streets" rally, but police and politicians were concerned the message was too aggressive. Organizers agreed, giving the event a "Walk, Run and Roll" title and a goal of raising funds for two sports scholarships in Laura's name. "Our goal is to bring the community together, that's what we want to happen," said McLean, whose job is to attract sponsors to what could become an annual event. "Excitement is building, and people are getting into it," she added. As of Monday, more than 1,700 Facebook users indicated they'd attend the event, which will start and finish at the soccer field at Burnsview Secondary and weave through the streets of North Delta along two routes (one five kilometres, the other 10). Laura, 15, studied at Burnsview and was an active soccer player until her death in hospital on Sept. 25. A day earlier, she was walking through Mackie Park to meet a group of friends when an attacker viciously beat her. The murder remains unsolved, the investigation "active and ongoing," Delta police Sgt. Sharlene Brooks said Monday. "This is a priority for our department, without question." The Szendrei family is involved in planning the memorial event, said Brian White, a North Delta realtor who heads the organizing committee. "They are totally supportive," White said. "Before we do anything, it gets OK'd by the family first." Laura would have turned 16 this coming April 2, and the memorial event will be held during National Victims of Crime Awareness Week. To get younger people involved, organizers are holding a poster-design contest in local schools and will host open registration events at Scottsdale Centre mall on Feb. 18 and 27, White said. "People need to pre-register for this, because we can't have thousands of people show up on that day," he said. The fee to register is $5 until the week before the event, when the fee rises to $10. Organizers are also selling related merchandise, including T-shirts, water bottles, baseball caps, pins and pendants. Money raised will go to the newly formed Laura Szendrei Memorial Scholarship Foundation Society, which will present two sports scholarships to students from Delta secondary schools every year. To get involved, call 778-435-3004 or visit www.lswalkrunroll.com.http://www.theprovince.com/business/Delta+residents+plan+memorial+walk+slain+teen+Laura+Szendrei/4286603/story.html#ixzz1E4Vjg6Ot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Going to talk to the fiance about going to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 An arrest has been made in the murder of Laura Szendrei. Delta police announced that a 18-year-old has been charged with first-degree murder in the slaying of Laura Szendrei. Szendrei's parents cried as Delta police officer Sharlene Brooks spoke at the news conference. The girl was viciously attacked near a park last September.http://www.vancouversun.com/year+charged+slaying+North+Delta+Laura+Szendrei+last+fall/4320641/story.html#ixzz1EcWaNqQw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Province reporter Jennifer Saltman from the press conference announcing the charges: DPD have arrested and charged an 18-year-old male. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:03:27 PM10:03 AM Cannot name him because he was 17 at the time of the crime. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:03:56 PM10:03 AM Suspect charged with first-degree murder. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:04:18 PM10:04 AM Mike Szendrei: Didn't think police would come through at first, but they did. Thanking everyone who helped them. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:06:19 PM10:06 AM Rachael Szendrei: Laura's gravestone unveiled yesterday. Here with mixed feelings today. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:06:52 PM10:06 AM Rachael Szendrei: "so thankful" for arrest. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:07:44 PM10:07 AM No name, because the suspect was under the age of 18 at the time of the crime. by theprovince at 2/21/2011 6:07:59 PM10:07 AM No evidence to show Laura knew her attacker: Sgt. Sharlene Brooks by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:09:23 PM10:09 AM Brooks: Man originally described by police was not related to crime. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:10:18 PM10:10 AM Brooks: hard to say if random or targeted, believed attacker took advantage of an opportunity by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:11:00 PM10:11 AM Brooks: Accused will appear in court sometime today in Surrey. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:11:34 PM10:11 AM Brooks: Arrest made without incident yesterday on Surrey/Delta border. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:12:08 PM10:12 AM Brooks: suspect not known to police. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:13:38 PM10:13 AM Brooks: Investigation far from over. But no evidence anyone else involved. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:14:39 PM10:14 AM @Lisa Under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, we cannot name him as his case goes through the legal system. by theprovince at 2/21/2011 6:16:34 PM10:16 AM @Lisa if the suspect is found guilty and sentenced as an adult we can release a name. by jensaltman via iPhone at 2/21/2011 6:17:39 PM10:17 AM We're also getting lots of questions about Sgt. Sharlene Brooks' comment that the attacker took advantage of an opportunity, and whether that fits with a first-degree murder charge which is defined by motive and premeditation. We won't likely be able to answer that without access to the evidence that police have gathered and the Crown intends to submit. They decide on the charge based on their evidence, but it won't become public until there is a trial. by theprovince at 2/21/2011 6:36:17 PM10:36 AM http://live.theprovince.com/Event/Delta_Police_news_conference_Feb_21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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