لني Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I just laugh, sometimes. Considering the top-tier forwards Bieksa plays against every night, if they never made him look stupid once in a while, how the hell would other teams ever win? If Bieksa were as good as everyone seems to want him to be (unrealistic expectations), we'd never get scored on. You can add to that the fact that hamhuis is apparently "mistake free". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I am always criticizing Edler as well. He is a similar type of player as Bieksa. Both have great offensive potential but have brutal defensive breakdowns. Bieksa way more then Edler. I'll quote myself from a couple of pages back first.... The best forwards in the game play against the leagues best defenders and still put up 80+ points. That's who Bieksa plays against. What you guys have to get through your heads is Bieksa in not an elite d-man. Nor is he paid like one. Quit expecting him to play like one. Hamhuis isn't an elite d-man either and also has his blunders. (but we like him we'll ignore his) The Sedins have won back to back scoring titles while playing against the leagues best defenders. And they play against guys that are in fact elite d-men. Which must mean even the elite d-men do indeed get beat. Bieksa plays against the leagues best forwards including the elite ones. Guys that can beat actual elite d-men. Mistakes will happen. The fact that he's a plus player surely is an indicator that he must be pretty good at his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameer666 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 And Canucklelion. stop comparing Bieksa to other players using his yearly salary, use his cap hit. By your logic, Ehrhoff should be the best defender in the league, as he is getting paid 10 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 And Canucklelion. stop comparing Bieksa to other players using his yearly salary, use his cap hit. By your logic, Ehrhoff should be the best defender in the league, as he is getting paid 10 million. Canucklelion and Understand are the highlight of CDC for me. So much entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeneir Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Canucklelion and Understand are the highlight of CDC for me. So much entertainment. Lol, it's so true. It hurts my brain how absurd their arguments can be. Just wait, in a couple years, canucklelion will be comparing Bieksa's performance to his cap hit instead of his salary because his cap hit will be the higher value. Every game, Bieksa plays against the top forwards from the other team. These are the guys who are the best in the world at one thing: scoring goals. It is positively inane to expect Bieksa to play a flawless game against these players who have made a career out of exploiting the mistakes in team defense. In spite of all this, Bieksa is still a +5 and the Canucks are 3rd in the League. Obviously he must be garbage..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterShipwreck Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bieksa was Da MAN during this weekend's game. he stopped that empty net goal and then scored to tie up the game. HE did WIN that game. I'm happy to be wearing my Bieksa jersey while watching Canucks games at home. To all the naysayers - too bad. Don't wanna hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bieksa is once again proving to me that he's not only a playoff performer but he's a big-time clutch player. Sure it was a lucky bounce that lead to him winding up with the puck against Colorado, but he still managed to shoot through a thick screen and beat a goalie who was playing really well that game. Bieksa is a clutch player which is why he earns and deserves the big bucks. At the start of the season I was very skeptical about his contract but if he's going to perform to his best when it matters the most I'm happy for him to earn maybe a million more than he should be. There's lots of players out there like Dominic Moore, Hal Gill and Travis Moen who are excellent playoff performers but don't earn much money because they don't stand out during the regular season, but if anything they should be earning more than regular season producers who go quiet when it matters the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Bieksa's playoff stats from last 3 years: 47GP, 8G, 15A, 23Pt, +11, 2GWG 0.5 PPG from a guy who rarely sees the top PP unit is nothing short of fantastic. +11 for a guy who is on your shutdown pairing is also excellent. For comparison's sake, in the last few years, Kronwall is also +11, Keith is even, Orpik even, Salo -2, W. Mitchell -3, Letang -4, Kubina -4, Boyle -7, and Ehrhoff -16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameer666 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Great Statistical Analysis of our PK. Apparently Bieksa is our best pker, at least statistically speaking. Kudos KB3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCKLELION Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 After reading the last page of posts, I have to believe there must have been a big sale on Bxa love goggles. he is the least talented most error prone Canuck. His stats are bolsered by the most excellent guys he plays with who save his butt time after time. Not he least of which are Hamhuis, Lou + Raymond. Heck even the stanchion can be made to appear to have league leading stats, not to mention better mobility than Bxa, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 After reading the last page of posts, I have to believe there must have been a big sale on Bxa love goggles. he is the least talented most error prone Canuck. His stats are bolsered by the most excellent guys he plays with who save his butt time after time. Not he least of which are Hamhuis, Lou + Raymond. Heck even the stanchion can be made to appear to have league leading stats, not to mention better mobility than Bxa, lol Were you Kudas in a previous life here? You're really beginning to remind me of robot boy from another planet and his mindless over exagerated fantasy riddled Cloutier crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 After reading the last page of posts, I have to believe there must have been a big sale on Bxa love goggles. he is the least talented most error prone Canuck. His stats are bolsered by the most excellent guys he plays with who save his butt time after time. Not he least of which are Hamhuis, Lou + Raymond. Heck even the stanchion can be made to appear to have league leading stats, not to mention better mobility than Bxa, lol Really, C? Is that the best you can come up with? Disappointing to say the least. Should have stayed under your rock, dude....... er, "coach". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Errorhoff is proving he is not that good by himself and the truth is he will never be a 50 point D man EVER again. That is a guarantee . I am blown away at some who have been defending Erhoff it is quite comical actually. Yes KB has some bad games all players do, but his physical play and locker room presence more than outweigh Errohoffs lack of toughness and giveaways. KB 52GP 28P +5 more shots better shooting % also Errorhoff 41GP 19P -7 yah yah . 11 more games , but that is also my point . KB will take way more abuse and make diving catches in the outfield only to drive in a run on the same play i just threw up in my mouth after reading Canucklelion's post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 After reading the last page of posts, I have to believe there must have been a big sale on Bxa love goggles. he is the least talented most error prone Canuck. His stats are bolsered by the most excellent guys he plays with who save his butt time after time. Not he least of which are Hamhuis, Lou + Raymond. Heck even the stanchion can be made to appear to have league leading stats, not to mention better mobility than Bxa, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameer666 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Looks like the Bieksa haters have crawled back into their hole and gone into hiding! 7 points and +7 in the last 9 games, and is on pace for a career high in points! Keep it up KB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Bieksa has made some large,mostly defensive mistakes in the last few games,alone. However,he is putting the puck in the net so Long Live Dan Hamhuis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Looks like the Bieksa haters have crawled back into their hole and gone into hiding! 7 points and +7 in the last 9 games, and is on pace for a career high in points! Keep it up KB! Quick, kick the dirt in on top of them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNucksFan Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Errorhoff is proving he is not that good by himself and the truth is he will never be a 50 point D man EVER again. That is a guarantee . I am blown away at some who have been defending Erhoff it is quite comical actually. Yes KB has some bad games all players do, but his physical play and locker room presence more than outweigh Errohoffs lack of toughness and giveaways. KB 52GP 28P +5 more shots better shooting % also Errorhoff 41GP 19P -7 yah yah . 11 more games , but that is also my point . KB will take way more abuse and make diving catches in the outfield only to drive in a run on the same play i just threw up in my mouth after reading Canucklelion's post nice avatar oh, and KB3 rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 After reading the last page of posts, I have to believe there must have been a big sale on Bxa love goggles. he is the least talented most error prone Canuck. His stats are bolsered by the most excellent guys he plays with who save his butt time after time. Not he least of which are Hamhuis, Lou + Raymond. Heck even the stanchion can be made to appear to have league leading stats, not to mention better mobility than Bxa, lol Another mindless post with no bearing on reality. Bieksa and Hamhuis are our #1 shutdown pair and I see them bail each other out plenty of times however you just choose to view through your Bieksa-Hate goggles. Absolute troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Bieksa has 7 goals, 33 points, and is a +13. That's one more point than Cody Hodgson has. That's also the same number of goals as All-star Edler, only 6 points less, despite the fact that Edler gets almost twice the PP icetime on the top unit, while Bieksa mans the second. In fact, Bieksa doesn't have a powerplay point since the Boston game. He is also +8 up on AE. ------------------------ He's really heating up too. So far in February, his stats are: 9GP, 3G, 4A, 7Pts, +7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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