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Hamhuis has gambled a lot more this year as well. Which has also led to odd man rushed Bieksa has had to cover for. But it's also led to more points for Hamhuis as well.

lol, an odd man rush Bxa can't cover is a one on two. The guy is horrible defensively.

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You do realize every post you make has nothing new to offer, right? You complain about his game, then you say something about how lucky he got offensively(which I am sure the chances of putting up 35 points by fluke as a d-men are REAL high), then you talk about how Hammer bailed him out.

Do me a favor.... for the next few games you watch, focus hard on Hammer, like you focus hard on Bieksa. I am sure you will discover for almost every time Hammer bails out Bieksa, Bieksa returns the favor. I saw 3-4 occasions of this happening last night. That is what makes the pairing so effective, they always have each others back.

Ha, Ha, check out this recent poll just to confirm you are in the minority and definitely wearing Bxa love goggles...

http://forum.canucks.com/topic/324657-hamhuis-vs-bieksa/

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Ha, Ha, check out this recent poll just to confirm you are in the minority and definitely wearing Bxa love goggles...

http://forum.canucks.com/topic/324657-hamhuis-vs-bieksa/

You are inconceivably immature in the manner with which you approach debate. You refuse to address valid points raised by those who oppose your point of view and consistently tear off on tangents unrelated to issues that people present. Now I'm calling you out on your crap.

I asked you this question 3 months ago:

Would you rather contend for the President's Trophy each year, or the Stanley Cup?

Answer it.

If you want the Cup to come to Vancouver, then Bieksa is one of the guys who can make it happen, and *anybody* can present evidence to support the fact that Bieksa raises his game in the playoffs and makes a difference. Don't just sit there and say "what did he do haha in game 7? Lol."

Answer the question. No hahas, no lols, no dodging the topic.

President's Trophy, or Cup?

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I am convinced that Canucklelion is really Kevin Bieksa trolling hard so he gets compliments shoved into his face. Who else could be so shameless?

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Ha, Ha, check out this recent poll just to confirm you are in the minority and definitely wearing Bxa love goggles...

http://forum.canucks...huis-vs-bieksa/

Hey did you see Hammers great blind pass behind the net to NOBODY the other night that resulted in a goal against? Seems to me you went ballistic over Bieksa doing that when it didn't result in a goal.

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lol, an odd man rush Bxa can't cover is a one on two. The guy is horrible defensively.

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Makes about as much sense as you....LOL

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Brutal 5 - 2 loss to Dallas tonight.

All the Dmen were struggling, it kinda made Bxa appear normal. lol

Yeah actually he was the only D-man that was a + today.

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Ok so getting back to the Ehrhoff vs Bxa debate, and why I feel MG made a mistake in not giving Ehrhoff a reasonable counter offer to his 5.2 request to play for the Nuck's.

currently the Nuck's #1 point producers have regressed back to their 80 pt pace of the pre Ehrhoff era. an era where the team had Bxa, Edler + Salo, but the Twins couldn't break the point per game barrier as an average.

So in comes Ehrhoff, already a 40+ pt per game guy from SJ, he picks up an amazing 95 pts in 2 seasons with the Nuck's, the Twins bust 100 points on a season for the first time in their careers.

In the summer, MG overpays for Bxa, thus cannot afford to sign Ehrhoff at the discounted 5.2 rate and so without the slick puck moving Hoff to get them the puck the Twins regress back to their 80 pt paces.

meanwhile in 58 games this year, Ehrhoff now with Buf, has 30 pts, easily if he played 82 games, a 40 pt + pace.

So I ask, who's point production misses who more? Do the Twins miss the Hoff or does the Hoff miss the Twins?

Signing Bxa with the biggest cap hit among the D and a 5 year NTC before inking Ehrhoff to a deal was a huge mistake by MG

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Ok so getting back to the Ehrhoff vs Bxa debate, and why I feel MG made a mistake in not giving Ehrhoff a reasonable counter offer to his 5.2 request to play for the Nuck's.

currently the Nuck's #1 point producers have regressed back to their 80 pt pace of the pre Ehrhoff era. an era where the team had Bxa, Edler + Salo, but the Twins couldn't break the point per game barrier as an average.

So in comes Ehrhoff, already a 40+ pt per game guy from SJ, he picks up an amazing 95 pts in 2 seasons with the Nuck's, the Twins bust 100 points on a season for the first time in their careers.

In the summer, MG overpays for Bxa, thus cannot afford to sign Ehrhoff at the discounted 5.2 rate and so without the slick puck moving Hoff to get them the puck the Twins regress back to their 80 pt paces.

meanwhile in 58 games this year, Ehrhoff now with Buf, has 30 pts, easily if he played 82 games, a 40 pt + pace.

So I ask, who's point production misses who more? Do the Twins miss the Hoff or does the Hoff miss the Twins?

Signing Bxa with the biggest cap hit among the D and a 5 year NTC before inking Ehrhoff to a deal was a huge mistake by MG

Yup. Ehrhoff is the reason the Sedins became 100point players, you got it!

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Answer the question, CANUCKLELION, I'm just gonna keep coming back and posting it until you do.

What would you rather contend for each season, the President's Trophy or the Stanley Cup?

If you want to justify your hard-on for Ehrhoff and hate for Bieksa, just say you want the Canucks to keep winning the President's trophy while going Cup-less, and I will leave it alone.

By the by, the Sedins were on pace to repeat 100 point performances this year until this significant slump in production. I think calling Ehrhoff the answer is oversimplifying the situation.

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Answer the question, CANUCKLELION, I'm just gonna keep coming back and posting it until you do.

What would you rather contend for each season, the President's Trophy or the Stanley Cup?

If you want to justify your hard-on for Ehrhoff and hate for Bieksa, just say you want the Canucks to keep winning the President's trophy while going Cup-less, and I will leave it alone.

By the by, the Sedins were on pace to repeat 100 point performances this year until this significant slump in production. I think calling Ehrhoff the answer is oversimplifying the situation.

The answer is simple, the Nuck's get neither without Ehrhoff, and all they get with Bxa is the 'same old 'same old' , 6 yrs and no cup.

Bxa is not good enough to be a top 4 Dman on a Stanley Cup winning team. He is a liability.

As far as simplifying goes I will try to keep it simple so you might understand.

Ehrhoff gets his 40+ points in 82 games whether he is with the Twins or not. The Twins never even got near 100 points until and only if they have a guy like the Hoff to move the puck. The Nuck's did not replace him, that is tough to do. Your grandma could probably play better D than Bxa.

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The answer is simple, the Nuck's get neither without Ehrhoff, and all they get with Bxa is the 'same old 'same old' , 6 yrs and no cup.

Bxa is not  good enough to be a top 4 Dman on a Stanley Cup winning team. He is a liability.

As far as simplifying goes I will try to keep it simple so you might understand.

Ehrhoff gets his 40+ points in 82 games whether he is with the Twins or not. The Twins never even got near 100 points until and only if they have a guy like the Hoff to move the puck. The Nuck's did not replace him, that is tough to do. Your grandma could probably play better D than Bxa.

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Ehrhoff gets half his points on the powerplay and he's played on a pretty good powerplay dating back to his San Jose days

All high point-producing Dmen get at least half their points on the PP no matter who they're playing with. Speaking of PPs, Ehrhoff on our point would look pretty good about now.

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