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#9421 RandyLahey

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:56 PM

Bieksa
28:05 mins, 2 assists, -1, 0pm

Not his best game but considering there wasn't a period of over 30 seconds when Bieksa was on the ice with anybody but Boston's top two lines I think he did alright.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:07 AM

You know what? I totally agree that was a horrible play by Bieksa. But the entire defense made tons of bad plays all game, you must admit. Also it is kind of hypocritical for you to cherry pick plays when your talking about "large sample sizes".

Also, Hamhuis fault on the 3rd goal? But I dont see you calling him out....


On the 3rd goal, Hammer had his hands full with 2 guys and what was Bxa doing? Not playing D, surprise surprise. By the way, he exhibited the skill of a stanchion on his 2 second assists. lol
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:09 AM

<br /> On the 3rd goal, Hammer had his hands full with 2 guys and what was Bxa doing?  Not playing D, surprise surprise.  By the way, he exhibited the skill of a stanchion on his 2 second assists. lol<br />

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Yep .. even when he has a bad game he exceeds your expectations .. sad huh?...:P
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:30 AM


 	 Player	Team	 Pos	 GP	 G	 A	P	 +/-	 PIM	 PP	 SH	 GW	 OT	 S	 S%	 TOI/G	 Sft/G	 FO%



1	Erik Karlsson	OTT	D	42	5	34	39	+2	24	1	0	0	0	147	3.4	25:35	27.4	0.0

2	Brian Campbell	FLA	D	41	3	30	33	+2	4	1	0	0	0	67	4.5	26:21	28.6	0.0

3	Shea Weber	NSH	D	37	9	21	30	+12	26	5	1	1	0	114	7.9	26:19	29.8	0.0

4	Dennis Wideman	WSH	D	39	8	21	29	-2	10	4	0	2	1	82	9.8	24:02	27.9	0.0

5	Alexander Edler	VAN	D	42	6	23	29	+2	16	3	1	0	0	117	5.1	23:03	29.1	0.0

6	Dion Phaneuf	TOR	D	41	7	21	28	+2	47	5	0	0	0	116	6.0	25:13	31.6	0.0

7	Zdeno Chara	BOS	D	36	7	18	25	+27	49	5	0	0	0	110	6.4	24:28	27.6	0.0

8	Keith Yandle	PHX	D	42	5	20	25	+3	28	0	0	2	0	107	4.7	22:01	25.0	0.0

9	Kevin Bieksa	VAN	D	42	4	21	25	+7	49	2	0	0	0	89	4.5	23:21	28.4	0.0

10	Kimmo Timonen	PHI	D	39	1	24	25	+12	24	1	0	0	0	57	1.8	21:50	28.4	100.0


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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:40 AM

On the 3rd goal, Hammer had his hands full with 2 guys and what was Bxa doing? Not playing D, surprise surprise. By the way, he exhibited the skill of a stanchion on his 2 second assists. lol

Then he chose poorly. He should have taken the guy going to the net. You know, the one that came from his side to score the goal.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 02:16 AM

On the 3rd goal, Hammer had his hands full with 2 guys and what was Bxa doing? Not playing D, surprise surprise. By the way, he exhibited the skill of a stanchion on his 2 second assists. lol


If you can't admit Hamhuis is at fault for that goal, then your just showing how thick the lenses are on your homer glasses.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:32 PM

If you can't admit Hamhuis is at fault for that goal, then your just showing how thick the lenses are on your homer glasses.


lol, Hamhuis is at fault? To say that would be tantamount to blasphemy to the Hockey gods.


A guy can only do so much, Hamhuis is not super human nor a magician. I can understand why you think he might be, after creating the illusion Bxa is a shut down guy.It's kinda like changing water into wine or something eh?

Here is what Ed Willes said about Hammer in this mornings column....

There are a number of guys who can make this claim — Patrick Sharp, Max Talbot, Niklas Kronwall —but after watching him for a season and a half, the belief here is Dan Hamhuis is the most under-rated player in the NHL.



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Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:48 PM

lol, Hamhuis is at fault? To say that would be tantamount to blasphemy to the Hockey gods.


A guy can only do so much, Hamhuis is not super human nor a magician. I can understand why you think he might be, after creating the illusion Bxa is a shut down guy.It's kinda like changing water into wine or something eh?

Here is what Ed Willes said about Hammer in this mornings column....




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Dear Canucklelion,

A smarter, bigger man can give an unbiased opinion. I felt Bieksa looked "terrible" on the opening goal by Marchand. Yes, because he had pinched he likely deserved a little more help form his D-partner or other forwards however I didn't feel he acted with enough urgency to chase down or interfere with Marchand on the goal.

I disagree with you on the 3rd goal. This one in my opinion is on Schneider for very poor rebound control. Although it appears Bieksa arrives too late I believe he was coming on after a late change (I could be wrong). See how I said I could be wrong...

No one disagrees that Hamhuiis allows Bieksa to play the game which gives him more success. What most disagree with is the "blinders" you have on for Bieksa's play and your failure to realize a lot of his poor play can be attributed to two major injuries. He was much better last year and showing it was no fluke this year. He has no more turnovers than most defenceman and honestly he is much sounder defensively than "Errorhoff" who you seem to have a man-crush on. Errhoof was poor defensively and is why SanJose made him a salary cap dump in the trade with the Canucks. Some good offensive skills particularly on the PP with the Sedins but not so good in our zone.

Again, take the blinders off and stop your ridiculous posts because you have become a complete and utter joke to most of the people on the CDC.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 10:53 AM

Dear Canucklelion,

A smarter, bigger man can give an unbiased opinion. I felt Bieksa looked "terrible" on the opening goal by Marchand. Yes, because he had pinched he likely deserved a little more help form his D-partner or other forwards however I didn't feel he acted with enough urgency to chase down or interfere with Marchand on the goal.

I disagree with you on the 3rd goal. This one in my opinion is on Schneider for very poor rebound control. Although it appears Bieksa arrives too late I believe he was coming on after a late change (I could be wrong). See how I said I could be wrong...

No one disagrees that Hamhuiis allows Bieksa to play the game which gives him more success. What most disagree with is the "blinders" you have on for Bieksa's play and your failure to realize a lot of his poor play can be attributed to two major injuries. He was much better last year and showing it was no fluke this year. He has no more turnovers than most defenceman and honestly he is much sounder defensively than "Errorhoff" who you seem to have a man-crush on. Errhoof was poor defensively and is why SanJose made him a salary cap dump in the trade with the Canucks. Some good offensive skills particularly on the PP with the Sedins but not so good in our zone.

Again, take the blinders off and stop your ridiculous posts because you have become a complete and utter joke to most of the people on the CDC.


The only guy wearing blinders is you. Taking the position that Bxa can play D is indefensible, watch Marchand's goal again, Bxa was out skated by a rat. But then who hasn't beaten Bxa one on one, it doesn't matter if its a 1st liner or a 4th liner, Bxa stops no one. Bxa can't skate backwards, take the blinders off.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 10:59 AM

I still prefer Juice on our team than not.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:05 PM

I still prefer Juice on our team than not.


Maybe, but he should not have a 5 yr NTC and definitely should not be the highest paid guy, and I still find it hard to believe he has been the highest paid Canuck Dman for Four of the last 5 years. He has never lived up to his billing. How do you spell over rated and over paid? B-I-E-K-S-A.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:09 PM

Damn, I guess I'm the only guy here that LIKES Bieksa, apparently Posted ImagePosted Image

He's not perfect. But.....

I think its too easy to pick apart each player. Luongo is on the receiving end of this a lot. Admittedly, I do not think Luongo or Bryz (from the Flyers) are playing up to what they are being paid. But, I see many good plays by Bieksa every game. He doesn't deserve this...

Also, I am admittedly of previously guilty of complaining about #5 Coburn (on the Flyers) - he is also a defenseman. However, I've seen him make some good plays recently, and my opinion of him is changing.

Granted, this IS a Canucks Forum. So, like any hockey forum, it brings out the people who will comb thru each and every game. That's the fun of these forums sometimes. But, give the guy a break, I say...

So, I'll keep wearing my Bieksa jersey

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:14 PM

Damn, I guess I'm the only guy here that LIKES Bieksa, apparently Posted ImagePosted Image

He's not perfect. But.....

I think its too easy to pick apart each player. Luongo is on the receiving end of these. Admittedly, I do not think he or Bryz (from the Flyers) are playing up to what they are being paid. But, I see many good plays by Bieksa every game. Also, I am admittedly of previously guilty of complaining about #5 Coburn (on the Flyers) - he is also a defenseman. However, I've seen him make some good plays recently, and my opinion of him is changing.

Granted, this IS a Canucks Forum. So, like any hockey forum, it brings out the people who will comb thru each and every game. That's the fun of these forums sometimes. But, give the guy a break, I say...

So, I'll keep wearing my Bieksa jersey

I also like Bieksa. Too many Canucks fans are too quick to criticize our own players.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:26 PM

<br />I also like Bieksa.  Too many Canucks fans are too quick to criticize our own players.<br />

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I like Bieksa too!
Especially his attitute XD
and he ALWAYS stands up for our guys!
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:05 PM

The only guy wearing blinders is you. Taking the position that Bxa can play D is indefensible, watch Marchand's goal again, Bxa was out skated by a rat. But then who hasn't beaten Bxa one on one, it doesn't matter if its a 1st liner or a 4th liner, Bxa stops no one. Bxa can't skate backwards, take the blinders off.


With this response it is clear you are nothing more than a troll. And a troll with a limited capacity for hockey intelligence or fair comment.

How can I be wearing blinders when I can recognize when a player makes a bad play and when they play well and choose to comment?

You on the other hand refuse to ever watch Bieksa fairly. I don't think I'll bother to respond to you again because it is like speaking to a rock.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:31 PM

The only guy wearing blinders is you. Taking the position that Bxa can play D is indefensible, watch Marchand's goal again, Bxa was out skated by a rat. But then who hasn't beaten Bxa one on one, it doesn't matter if its a 1st liner or a 4th liner, Bxa stops no one. Bxa can't skate backwards, take the blinders off.



Lol u make it sound like marchands the slowest player in the league and also indicating that bieksa is the only defenseman to he could blow by??? Hahahahaha +1 for ur bias story!! Please keep writing so I can use all ur comments for my jokes of the day =) thank you please write again lol
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:36 PM

Maybe, but he should not have a 5 yr NTC and definitely should not be the highest paid guy, and I still find it hard to believe he has been the highest paid Canuck Dman for Four of the last 5 years. He has never lived up to his billing. How do you spell over rated and over paid? B-I-E-K-S-A.


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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:47 PM

With this response it is clear you are nothing more than a troll. And a troll with a limited capacity for hockey intelligence or fair comment.

How can I be wearing blinders when I can recognize when a player makes a bad play and when they play well and choose to comment?

You on the other hand refuse to ever watch Bieksa fairly. I don't think I'll bother to respond to you again because it is like speaking to a rock.


He sticks his head in the freezer when BXA gets on the ice so he wouldn't notice anything good BXA...but how does he remember the bad things? Simple he made it up!!!
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:48 PM

With this response it is clear you are nothing more than a troll. And a troll with a limited capacity for hockey intelligence or fair comment.

How can I be wearing blinders when I can recognize when a player makes a bad play and when they play well and choose to comment?

You on the other hand refuse to ever watch Bieksa fairly. I don't think I'll bother to respond to you again because it is like speaking to a rock.


He sticks his head in the freezer when BXA gets on the ice so he wouldn't notice anything good BXA...but how does he remember the bad things? Simple he made it up!!!
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:33 PM

Maybe, but he should not have a 5 yr NTC and definitely should not be the highest paid guy, and I still find it hard to believe he has been the highest paid Canuck Dman for Four of the last 5 years. He has never lived up to his billing. How do you spell over rated and over paid? G-O-M-E-Z


Fixed. He gets a mil per goal.
Anyways I think Bieksa has had his ups and downs this year and I agree that he should be playing better. However, I think you're blowing things a bit out of proportion. He did make a few good plays against Florida last night. For example he made and excellent diving poke check with a florida player on an odd man rush, breaking up the play.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

Fixed. He gets a mil per goal.
Anyways I think Bieksa has had his ups and downs this year and I agree that he should be playing better. However, I think you're blowing things a bit out of proportion. He did make a few good plays against Florida last night. For example he made and excellent diving poke check with a florida player on an odd man rush, breaking up the play.


I agree Gomez is a worse deal than Bxa's, however I do not appreciate you editing my post and it is against the board rules to do so but nevertheless, that was an excellent poke check, after his horrible giveaway, but here is what I said about it on the GDT yesterday and I feel the same way today. Posted Image

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:33 PM

Yet again....ABSOLUTELY F***CKING BRUTAL. I counted 5 giveaways and on the ice for 2 or 3 goals against. I just won't be able to stand this for 5 years....
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:45 PM

Is Tampa Bay slipping Bieksa $$$$ under the table for the presents? Thanks to Schneider for bailing out Boo-Boo.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

I agree Gomez is a worse deal than Bxa's, however I do not appreciate you editing my post and it is against the board rules to do so but nevertheless, that was an excellent poke check, after his horrible giveaway, but here is what I said about it on the GDT yesterday and I feel the same way today. Posted Image



my bad, I'll keep that in mind..anyways he was god awful today. Who's idea was it to have him in the shootout?

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:50 PM

Yet again....ABSOLUTELY F***CKING BRUTAL. I counted 5 giveaways and on the ice for 2 or 3 goals against. I just won't be able to stand this for 5 years....


How about his mega laziness in OT? Man that pissed me off!!
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:51 PM

.. good GOD that was bad .. indifference all over his manner and attitude .. needs a kick in the arse to snap him out of it .. Hammy and Schnieds bailed him out all night ..
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:54 PM

Bieksa has looked quite bad defensively the last few games, hopefully he can get back on track soon!
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:56 PM

I really want to hear AV's explanation for Bieksa playing in the S/O..

Didn't do squat to earn his 26 minutes of ice time today.. Ballard had a better game than him and only played 15 minutes. Hopefully our D really picks it up soon, we're really beginning to dismantle without Salo.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:37 PM

terriblieksa.

Someone needs to fight him so he plays better.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:47 PM

Yet again....ABSOLUTELY F***CKING BRUTAL. I counted 5 giveaways and on the ice for 2 or 3 goals against. I just won't be able to stand this for 5 years....

As I said before you can just stop watching for the next 5 years.
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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.


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