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#9631 CANUCKLELION

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

Time for a bump, no Bxa last night vs the Av's and guess what, no boneheaded plays by the D. Go figure eh? :lol:
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:06 PM

Time for a bump, no Bxa last night vs the Av's and guess what, no boneheaded plays by the D. Go figure eh? :lol:


Bieksa was in a few nights ago against the Kings and guess what, no boneheaded plays by the D. Go figure eh? :lol:
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:24 PM

Good to see the thread lIves on!
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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:45 AM

So after a 4 game hiatus Bxa returned to the line up, and returned to his brutal style of play, too bad eh.

Here was what Jason Botchford had to say..."If there was an unsung player award, and there is, Hamhuis should win in a walk. Not only has he upped his offense, he’s spent most of the year cleaning up Kevin Bieksa’s messes.
If there’s better defencemen at playing the 2-on-1, there arent’ many of them."


http://blogs.theprov...iss-excellence/
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:52 AM

This thread is like a zombie. I would somehow relate that to Juice, but really it is Henrik that refuses to die.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:53 AM

So after a 4 game hiatus Bxa returned to the line up, and returned to his brutal style of play, too bad eh.

Here was what Jason Botchford had to say..."If there was an unsung player award, and there is, Hamhuis should win in a walk. Not only has he upped his offense, he’s spent most of the year cleaning up Kevin Bieksa’s messes.
If there’s better defencemen at playing the 2-on-1, there arent’ many of them."


http://blogs.theprov...iss-excellence/


Botchford is an idiot. He knows little or nothing about hockey as do you. Hamhuis is good, his job is to allow Bieksa to pinch, take chances etc.. When you are the "offensive" D-man you are going to be in more vulnerable positions.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:21 AM

So after a 4 game hiatus Bxa returned to the line up, and returned to his brutal style of play, too bad eh.

Here was what Jason Botchford had to say..."If there was an unsung player award, and there is, Hamhuis should win in a walk. Not only has he upped his offense, he’s spent most of the year cleaning up Kevin Bieksa’s messes.
If there’s better defencemen at playing the 2-on-1, there arent’ many of them."


http://blogs.theprov...iss-excellence/


Can you please explain to me how when people use stats to try to prove you wrong, you say the stats are skewed, and then you come back and provide someones opinion as if it really means something significant?
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:18 AM

Love Hamhuis' game.

Bieksa's game is an adventure in wonderland.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:54 AM

The Province had been running a post game report card of sorts, by player for each game this season. Surprise, lol, the big revelation is that Bxa is no stud, Here is the recap and the info on Bxa.

2. Kevin Bieksa has a lot to prove this spring. He was a revelation as the team’s defensive leader in last year’s playoffs, but the nickname “Contract-year Kevin” returned when his game slipped drastically this season in the wake of his new five-year, $23-million deal. If the Canucks are to win it all this year, he’s the player who has to raise his game the farthest.

http://blogs.theprov...e-for-playoffs/
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:08 AM

Problem is Bieksa is trying to live up to expectations when he signed the big contract last year. In doing so, he trying to be more offensive this year. He pinches in and take more chances offensively than ever before and gets caught out of position most of the time. His offensive skills are not good enough to play that style. He's is not an elite offensive d-man that can finish on most offensive plays. When he plays outside of his comfort zone, he becomes a detriment to the team. He should stick to playing what he knows is his comfort zone and that is defence as his offensive skills are just average for a d-man.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

Bieksa is playing to instructions. When he moves up someone else covers. Where it has fallen down slightly is the mix 'n match formations at the back which is designed to sharpen everyone up but can lead to the odd faux pas.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:30 AM

Problem is Bieksa is trying to live up to expectations when he signed the big contract last year. In doing so, he trying to be more offensive this year. He pinches in and take more chances offensively than ever before and gets caught out of position most of the time. His offensive skills are not good enough to play that style. He's is not an elite offensive d-man that can finish on most offensive plays. When he plays outside of his comfort zone, he becomes a detriment to the team. He should stick to playing what he knows is his comfort zone and that is defence as his offensive skills are just average for a d-man.


I totally agree with your point about Bieksa trying to live up to his new found wealth. He does try to do too much, at times, and this sometimes hurts the team. His +12 this season, as compared to his +32 last season, is evidence of this. Interesting that Bieksa's points increased by 20 and his +/- decreased by 20... Hmmmm...

I disagree with the fact that KB3's offensive skills "are average for a d-man", however. His 44 points is well above average. It is actually 13th out of 297 defencemen, according to NHL.com's stats.

Bieksa, in my eyes, is worth the salary he is being paid based on his contributions, on and off the ice.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:50 AM

Problem is Bieksa is trying to live up to expectations when he signed the big contract last year. In doing so, he trying to be more offensive this year. He pinches in and take more chances offensively than ever before and gets caught out of position most of the time. His offensive skills are not good enough to play that style. He's is not an elite offensive d-man that can finish on most offensive plays. When he plays outside of his comfort zone, he becomes a detriment to the team. He should stick to playing what he knows is his comfort zone and that is defence as his offensive skills are just average for a d-man.


Disagree. I think playing KB3 more offensively this season is a move that was calculated by the coaching staff.

Everyone knew that with the departure of Ehrhoff, the offense from the back end was going to have to come "by committee" this season. I think Juice has been allowed to take more chances this season in an effort to bump up his offensive production over last season. Hammer has been covering for him because that's the way it was drawn up.

And it's worked. Yes, his +/- is down, but his point totals are up. Ahead of guys like Letang, Keith, Jack Johnson, Gonchar and Doughty. Maybe those aren't "elite" numbers to you, but I'd say it's pretty good.

Ask yourself this: If this wasn't a planned move by the coaching staff, why did they not have Juice revert to playing his 2010-2011 style? It's pretty obvious to me that no such attempt has been made this year. I believe the team has decided to live with a few defensive lapses this season in exchange for increased production. This incidentally is what was done with Bieksa early in his career when the team struggled to score at all.

It's the kind of season that had the no minds claiming that Bieksa "only plays well in a contract year". Now that he's playing the way he did back then, the complainers are doing a 360 and stating that they want the shut-down Bieksa back, even though they were all whimning about his lack of offense at the time.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:00 AM

Bieska is 2 million over-paid. :picard:
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:00 AM

** Bieksa, sorry
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

The Province had been running a post game report card of sorts, by player for each game this season. Surprise, lol, the big revelation is that Bxa is no stud, Here is the recap and the info on Bxa.

2. Kevin Bieksa has a lot to prove this spring. He was a revelation as the team’s defensive leader in last year’s playoffs, but the nickname “Contract-year Kevin” returned when his game slipped drastically this season in the wake of his new five-year, $23-million deal. If the Canucks are to win it all this year, he’s the player who has to raise his game the farthest.

http://blogs.theprov...e-for-playoffs/


Province blog. Just puked in my mouth a bit
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:30 AM

The Province had been running a post game report card of sorts, by player for each game this season. Surprise, lol, the big revelation is that Bxa is no stud, Here is the recap and the info on Bxa.

2. Kevin Bieksa has a lot to prove this spring. He was a revelation as the team’s defensive leader in last year’s playoffs, but the nickname “Contract-year Kevin” returned when his game slipped drastically this season in the wake of his new five-year, $23-million deal. If the Canucks are to win it all this year, he’s the player who has to raise his game the farthest.

http://blogs.theprov...e-for-playoffs/


So I guess your acknowledging the part that says he was the teams defensive leader last playoffs too right?
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:33 PM

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:38 PM

As usual Kevin Bieksa's play is being massively underrated.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

As usual Kevin Bieksa's play is being massively underrated.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:19 PM

Bingo - noticed since BXA has been back from his injury - that the Canucks have been on the skids. BXA is a cancer to this team and will get put on a barge and floated out to sea with Raymond, Mr. Dump & Run (Mahotra) and Lou - this summer. That will save us 16.314 Million next year. Imagine what we could do with that ????

Edited by RU SERIOUS, 14 April 2012 - 01:24 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:00 PM

Bieska is 2 million over-paid. :picard:


You obviously have no clue whatsoever about NHL salaries.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:07 PM

Bingo - noticed since BXA has been back from his injury - that the Canucks have been on the skids. BXA is a cancer to this team and will get put on a barge and floated out to sea with Raymond, Mr. Dump & Run (Mahotra) and Lou - this summer. That will save us 16.314 Million next year. Imagine what we could do with that ????


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:50 PM

Hmmmm, what was the problem with O'Brien? Oh yeah, undisciplined....and at half the price....

The problem was he called them a bunch of pretenders. He was right though. I liked SOB but he wasn't one of AV"s boys.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:15 PM

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:31 PM

Kevin why where you laying on Luongos leg for the wrap around, why did you interfere with Luongo, now Luongo is taking all the blame for that goal.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:09 PM

Kevin why where you laying on Luongos leg for the wrap around, why did you interfere with Luongo, now Luongo is taking all the blame for that goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Gb752V7jo


Bxa looks like he has been working out with the National swim team in the off season, you play the way you practise. ::D
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:00 AM

ballard/hamhuis/malhotra and luuu were beasting in that ot pk. wow. i'm so pumped for this season even after the loss.

Finally seeing some hits from this season. Teams better keep their heads up or they are going to get run over.

Hamhuis is the only consistent thing the Canucks have.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:05 AM

Bieksa has always been one of our worst defensive players, if he didn't play with Hamhuis he'd probably be the worst minus player on the team. If he's not scoring big goals or making the PP work he better stop stuffing around in his own zone.

This guy has been caught with terrible positioning in the LA series already, often gliding either towards an already-defended forward leaving his man wide open or caught in no-man's land.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

Bxa looks like he has been working out with the National swim team in the off season, you play the way you practise. ::D


I still support Bieksa I like the guy a lot, he has a lot of heart for this team, but yes he looked like he was swimming on that play, he does need to step up his game tonight, as does EVERY PLAYER ON THIS TEAM!

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