Wetcoaster Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 He did not argue that point successfully, however. Regardless, the GC allows for those that do not wear uniforms to still be protected (much like a french resistance or dutch resistance fighter) if they carry arms openly and abide by the laws and customs of war. AQ/Taliban/whatever you want to call it today does not. They are not, in the eyes of the law, civilians. Regardless, I agree with the writer that these folks should have been tried by Afghan civilian courts. The alleged crimes occured there afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Even after dad was dead she was recorded as saying they are an Al Quada family and was proud of her son's actions. Seems to me that she had no problems whatsoever with him going to that camp then. As such, what makes you think that only the dad is responsible for him being there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I call yet another bizarre tangent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Khadr is obviously a victim of his crazy family and their jihadist ideology. He never had much of a choice in the matter with the way he was raised. He isn't Adam Gadahn who chose the radical way as an adult. Also Canada can't choose which of its citizens get rights and which don't. Omar Khadr can still be rehabilitated. His family should not be allowed contact with him. They brought him into the mess and will frack up his life again if he returns to them. It would be better letting him live with the Manson family than if he were returned to the Khadr family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Nope. Will check out video later. Maybe first intermission or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 If the parents can be charged for abusing their child by sending him off to war (seems reasonable) I was wondering why the mother wasn't charged. If you thinks that's irrevelant so be it. What are you, the leader of a focus group? Who cares if it's a tangent, it's still something relevant to the discussion. After all, the blame for his actions lies on the parents doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Yeah, I guess I kinda was eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 If the parents can be charged for abusing their child by sending him off to war (seems reasonable) I was wondering why the mother wasn't charged. If you thinks that's irrevelant so be it. What are you, the leader of a focus group? Who cares if it's a tangent, it's still something relevant to the discussion. After all, the blame for his actions lies on the parents doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Canadians split over Khadr's return: poll By MIKE DESOUZA, Postmedia News November 2, 2010 Canadians are split on the Harper government's decision announced yesterday to honour an agreement allowing confessed killer Omar Khadr to return to Canada, according to results of a poll conducted exclusively for Postmedia News and Global National. The Ipsos Reid survey found that 49 per cent of the population did not want the Toronto-born Khadr, who confessed to the 2002 killing of a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, to serve any part of his sentence in Canada. But Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said the government would allow Khadr, who was 15 years old at the time of the crimes, to be repatriated. "The U.S. government has accepted that Omar Khadr return to Canada and we will implement the agreement reached between Mr. Khadr and the United States," said Cannon in the House of Commons in response to questions from Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe. The decision follows years of court battles in which Harper's government refused to repatriate Khadr, maintaining that he was facing charges of "serious crimes." According to the poll, 25 per cent believe Khadr should serve all of his sentence in Canada, while 26 per cent believe he should serve some of it in the country. It adds up to 51 per cent who believe he should be repatriated. A majority of Canadians in Atlantic Canada (61 per cent), Saskatchewan and Manitoba (59 per cent) as well as in Quebec (57 per cent) said they want him to return to Canada, while a majority of Albertans (58 per cent), British Columbians (54 per cent) and Ontarians (52 per cent) said they do not believe Khadr should serve any part of his sentence in the country. John Wright, senior vice-president at Ipsos Reid, said he couldn't explain the regional breakdowns, but believes the numbers suggest Canadians are closely following developments in this story and do not have a favourable opinion of Khadr, who recently pleaded guilty to the crimes, after initially maintaining his innocence. More than two-thirds of respondents in the survey or 69 per cent said that "Khadr probably is guilty and this plea bargain is too generous, and that the Canadian government was right not to have offered him any assistance up to this point." Only 31 per cent said he should have been offered more government assistance because he was probably "not guilty and was forced into this plea bargain as his only option to be released someday after serving his sentence." © Copyright © The Montreal Gazette Read more: http://www.montrealg...l#ixzz14B20RmOs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I haven't been here in a while. I don't agree with Ron either but what is the point of flipping out at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Sorry if it is has been posted but I am not going to reread the entire thread. I stopped after the third page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I was pissed off and furthermore, it was a week ago. What's it to you after all this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarthButcher Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 That's a great interview with Khadr's sister. That host represents all the close minded sheep that tow the right wing establishment's line without any attempt at independent thought. It's pretty entertaining to see that little mouse spinning on a wheel in his head as he's owned and destroyed by that gal. Although the family has said some controversial things in the past, it's clear that they're being lynched by the media and are not being given a chance to explain themselves. Nice post! By the way, I ask again, who changed the title of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 They didn't send him off to war...***! Where do you get this nonsense from?! It's the same old B.S. coming out of you all the time. Go research and read up. I gave you a vid to watch to give you some perspective from the sister's mouth and you still talk in the the same drivel laced language. Show me the article or interview clip that says for a fact that Omar left Canada to go to war as a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Not even this version? You sad sack of ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAH Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 The only reason it did not succeed was because the US bastardized the law and provided made up definitions to try to get around the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 That's a great interview with Khadr's sister. That host represents all the close minded sheep that tow the right wing establishment's line without any attempt at independent thought. It's pretty entertaining to see that little mouse spinning on a wheel in his head as he's owned and destroyed by that gal. Although the family has said some controversial things in the past, it's clear that they're being lynched by the media and are not being given a chance to explain themselves. Nice post! By the way, I ask again, who changed the title of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I see you haven't watched the video and taken the time to reflect on what's said in it through the discourse. Seriously Ron, are you that entrenched in your opinions that you ignore everything else??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 It is not relevant to the subject of this thread - Khadr's guilty plea before an illegal military tribunal and the disregard for domestic and international law by the US government and military ably abetted by the Canadian government, it is yet another bizarre tangent. And yet off again you go. As well as being an issue with trying to keep a rational debate on track it is also contrary to the Board Rules which direct - "Effort should be made to stay on topic with the original post..." I have no idea if the blame rests on his parents - perhaps you should consider posting a thread on that subject so we can get back to the real substance of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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