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I think he'll likely start on the third line.

Something like (if Coho is sent down, which I am kind of doubting):

Sweatt - Hodgson - Haydar

Rodin - Schroeder - Mancari

Archibald - Doell - Anthony

Miller - Schneider - Duco

Davies, Pinner

The Wolves or Canucks might make one more top-6

signing (well, a center to be specific).

i think id put Ebbett as the 3rd liner for the Wolves

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Very rarely do I post here and not trying to spam/promote my video. Just genuinely posting this here because I think you guys will enjoy it. I made a video of Darren Archibald's 2010-2011 highlights; compiled them from Rogers TV and TV Cogeco clips. Mainly goals, some assists here and there and one PK shift. Hope you guys like it.

And i also made a Polasek one, but couldn't really find his thread. Anyways, you can find it if you really want to. :)

Edit: NEW LINK because it was really small before. You won't really notice it in the embedded player, but on the youtube page, its larger. I have removed the previous one.

Soo many power moves frantics.giffrantics.giftowel.gif

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Here is an article from Angus about Archibald. (the guy that originally said that Bieksa would aign for 4.5 and that Mac T would be the Wolves coach more then two weeks before darren dreger) http://thehockeywriters.com/darren-archibald-the-road-less-traveled/

It is rare for a player who was passed over three times to make an immediate impact as a prospect at the NHL level. The odd college player will sneak through because the NCAA (up until recently) wasn’t scouted as heavily as the CHL. Some examples of this include Joey Mullen, Adam Oates, and more recently the likes of Dustin Penner, Chris Kunitz, Rich Peverley, and Teddy Purcell, to name a few. The list of undrafted CHL players who made it to the NHL is not nearly as impressive. CHL graduates who slip through the draft three times are by and large ignored by NHL teams, unless a late growth spurt or rapid improvement takes place.

Former Niagara Ice Dog Darren Archibald is an intriguing player for many reasons. 30 teams passed on him a combined 21 times at the 2008, 2009, and 2010 NHL Entry Drafts (seven rounds each year). Looking at his size (6-foot-3), skating speed (well above average), goal scoring ability (great wrist shot, solid offensive instincts), and intangibles (tough as nails, momentum-swinging hits and fights), it is hard to see why.

Before joining Barrie back in 2008, Archibald played on a Tier II team in Stouffville, Ontario. A few of his teammates on that team were high draft picks – Ethan Werek (a New York Rangers 2nd round pick from 2009) and Corey Trivino (a New York Islanders 2nd round pick from 2008). It must have been frustrating for Archibald see two of his former teammates get picked while he was overlooked numerous times by the entire league. He took whatever anger he had from not being drafted and used it to develop into arguably the most imposing power forward in the entire Ontario Hockey League.

Archibald dominated the OHL in 2010-11 as an overager (each CHL team can have up to three players aged 20), splitting time with Barrie and Niagara. He finished the season with 41 goals in 61 regular season games split between the two teams, and added 10 goals in 14 games with Niagara in the postseason. He scored numerous highlight reel goals in all situations – penalty kill, even strength, power play. You name it, and Archibald played it.

His offensive numbers have trended upward each season, as well. His OHL debut in 2008-09 saw him finish with 49 points. He recorded 59 the season after, and ended up with 66 this past season. Not a huge progression from year to year, but an encouraging sign as it shows a player improving relative to the competition he faces.

Offensive consistency has been an issue with Archibald. He recorded 20 points in only 11 games in November of last year – almost one-third of his entire production for the season. However, he was still able to contribute with his physical play and fighting ability. His balanced game will likely enable him to stick on a third or fourth line at the NHL level if he is unable to transfer over his offensive game.

The Canucks likely have only one or two openings at training camp this season, and both of them are on the fourth line. However, Alain Vigneault has shown in the past that he is willing to give roster spots to the players who earn them, regardless of age, history, or contract situation. The Canucks will likely send Archibald down to Chicago, where he’ll line up with either Andrew Ebbett or Cody Hodgson in the top six. Vancouver hasn’t had a prototypical power forward prospect/player since Todd Bertuzzi before the massive contract extension/sideshow. To find the last power forward the team has developed internally… you’d have to dig very deep.

Looking forward a few years, and it is easy to see why Archibald is something worth watching. Both Mason Raymond (restricted) and Mikael Samuelsson (unrestricted) are free agents in the summer of 2012. Only Daniel, Henrik, Alex Burrows, and Ryan Kesler are top six forwards locked up for more than one season. Cody Hodgson and Jordan Schroeder are more well-known than Archibald because of their pedigrees and the 1st round draft pick status, but neither has done a whole lot at the professional level to rise above the other prospects. Look for Archibald to get a real look at a roster spot heading in to the 2012-13 season.

A glimpse of his offensive ability:

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I hope he gets to play along side the Sedins for 1 preseason game, and maybe shine!

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his between the legs playoff goal was ranked as the 3rd best goal in the OHL this season.

here it is again, in case anyone missed it:

That's pretty unreal in a game situation. Like you'd see it in the shootout, but during full speed action!! wow.

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That's pretty unreal in a game situation. Like you'd see it in the shootout, but during full speed action!! wow.

Hands and size, I like.

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Clearly the best player for the canucks last night. great showing by Archibald.

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Archi did fine in his debut,turned some heads.

Schroeder was flying all night long and means business.

Lessard was moving in the first two periods.

Polasek,Hannay,Erixon and Corrado all played well on the rear end in their debut.

Erixon showed some real poise.

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what happened to Joe Cannata? Hobey baker finalist last year, why is he not in young stars? is it bc of NCAA rules or is he crap now? Honzik was bad.

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what happened to Joe Cannata? Hobey baker finalist last year, why is he not in young stars? is it bc of NCAA rules or is he crap now? Honzik was bad.

every player in the NCAA is already in class and cannot compete (you miss class you lose your scholarship and are kicked off the team) plus the players playing in the tourney get free transportation and lodging at whatnot that would violate the ncaa gift clause and would make them ineligible.

It's not just Cannata, it's all our NCAA players.

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Had some good shifts and managed to get on the board a couple times. Only a rookie tourny but he seemed most competitive out of our guys.

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He'll definitely never be the fastest player on a team, but he still had okay speed for a player his size. I liked how he used his body around the net to shield the puck, and even tried to do some power moves. Given further time and development, he could be a very promising power forward.

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Archibald was the best player last night. Jensen was second IMO.

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If both Columbus and especially Detroit have past on Darren Archibald, he will be a long shot to make the Canucks.

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If both Columbus and especially Detroit have past on Darren Archibald, he will be a long shot to make the Canucks.

Because players have never developed past the age of 20 right? :rolleyes:

Detroit has given up on lots of players that have went on to do well, Ville Leino being one of them. I'm sick of people pretending like Detroit are the masters of scouting. They have made some pretty bad moves to go along with their good moves, just like every other team.

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Because players have never developed past the age of 20 right? :rolleyes:

Detroit has given up on lots of players that have went on to do well, Ville Leino being one of them. I'm sick of people pretending like Detroit are the masters of scouting. They have made some pretty bad moves to go along with their good moves, just like every other team.

Detroit does have master scouting, just not flawless.

However, your point stands. It was hard to get a grasp on Archibald at the time (when he was at Detroit's camp) he did well, but he was big and on a team that went 57-9-2. Very hard to tell if it was him or the team being successful, so the only time he had to prove himself was at camp.. Fast forward one year and he is on a very weak team (I don't know what their record was when he was traded, but they finished the year 15-49-2).. And Archi was still putting up the points (18 goals and 30 points in 24 games). Which is when we signed him. After that he played very well for the Ice Dogs after the first game or two of adjustment and had a PPG playoff.

To think Archibald is a 'long shot' because Detroit passed on him doesn't really deserve any merit, he's had two really good seasons in a row and he's looked great so far amongst our other 'YoungStars'.

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Detroit does have master scouting, just not flawless.

However, your point stands. It was hard to get a grasp on Archibald at the time (when he was at Detroit's camp) he did well, but he was big and on a team that went 57-9-2. Very hard to tell if it was him or the team being successful, so the only time he had to prove himself was at camp.. Fast forward one year and he is on a very weak team (I don't know what their record was when he was traded, but they finished the year 15-49-2).. And Archi was still putting up the points (18 goals and 30 points in 24 games). Which is when we signed him. After that he played very well for the Ice Dogs after the first game or two of adjustment and had a PPG playoff.

To think Archibald is a 'long shot' because Detroit passed on him doesn't really deserve any merit, he's had two really good seasons in a row and he's looked great so far amongst our other 'YoungStars'.

They do have really great scouting don't get me wrong. It just gets annoying that everyone seems to think that everything they touch turns to gold.

Since they drafted Datsyuk and Zetterberg in late rounds, it's like every pick or player they sign is going to be an automatic star. When in reality, the draft is just as much of a crap shoot for them, as it is for every other team.

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Archi was a no show tonight.

Thought I would see more but it is what it is.

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