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#1 Shaelon

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 03:06 AM

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I am providing you day to day updates on the NHL's Playoff Status through this chart. Changes from my Magic Number Chart includes:

Rows Removed:
PTP = Point Pce
Magic # = Magic Number
Magic Change = Change in Magic Number.

Rows Added:
MAX = Total Possible points that a team can finish with at the end of the regular season
PTC (X) = Points needed to Clinch a Playoff seed.
PTC (Y) = Points needed to Clinch a Division seed.
PTC (Z) = Points needed to Clinch a Conference seed (Applies to Eastern Conference only)

Example:
DET has 98 Points. They can achieve a final max point total of 108 Points. They currently need 2 Points to clinch a playoff seed (An extra point is added to eliminate tie-breakers unless specified by the NHL itself.)

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Light Gray = Vancouver
Lighter Green = Division Leader who has clinched a playoff spot but has not clinched the division.
Green = Division Leader
Yellow = In Playoff Spot
Orange = Clinched Playoff Spot but in non-division seed.
Blue = Out of Playoff spot/in Contention
Purple = Eliminated from Post-Season Contention!

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Edited by Shaelon, 10 April 2011 - 06:30 PM.

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#2 ajhockey

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 03:20 AM

so what does the magic number mean?
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 03:35 AM

so what does the magic number mean?

Number of wins it would take to be ranked higher than the opponent in the standings. This magic number thing has been done every year almost.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 03:38 AM

A bit too early for the magic number thread?
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 03:57 AM

No, not really. I was going to start one as early as the beginning of the season but I think people prefer too see it dwindle down right from the get go.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 04:47 AM

No, not really. I was going to start one as early as the beginning of the season but I think people prefer too see it dwindle down right from the get go.


The effort is appreciated as always!
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 05:09 AM

Number of wins it would take to be ranked higher than the opponent in the standings. This magic number thing has been done every year almost.


So that is if they win all their games.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 08:32 AM

its the number of game we need to win to guarantee our placement above them at the end of the season.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 09:08 AM

I'll appreciate this a lot more near the end of the season but thanks anyways!
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 09:34 AM

Fix your title your missing the "r" in Chart.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:02 AM

i think its to early to be predicting how a team will finish, trades play a big role in how well a team does and teams today will be different down the road. Even our team has a few trades in its future, when salo returns, trade deadline, etc. Injurys change how a team plays aswell.
It is fun to see the lames chances looking so dismal though =)
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:23 AM

So Detroit has 47 games to clinch a playoff spot?

Your chart is too complicated.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:37 AM

It just means that if we need 47 more wins (or every single game) in order to guarantee more points than Detroit.

The magic number system has been posted for years now, it's not very hard to understand. However, I feel it's a bit early to show it since we're nowhere near reducing any of the magic numbers to zero (not even Edmonton).
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:38 AM

I get it. If Detroit wins their every game from now until the end of the season, and Canucks do the same, Canucks will be #1. Amirite? :)
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 01:52 PM

guys.... CBJ has a magic number of 40

we need a combined total of 40 (van wins + cbj losses)... ie if we get 23 more wins and cbj get 17 reg losses... we could lose every other game to be ahead of them in standings

the calculations might be complicated but its pretty simple to figure out
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 08:07 PM

I cant seem to fix the topic title, but yes thats pretty much how it works. With the new shootout rule, a shootout win calculates the same as a OT/SO Loss. it wont be too long before we see teams below us eliminated at the pace we're going at.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 08:09 PM

Makes me feel like it's March already.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 09:37 PM

December 29th, 2010:
I have updated the Magic Number chart for the end of December 29th, 2010's games. Phoenix and Los Angeles are still in game duration but with a 6-3 lead, its well clear the Coyotes will win.
I have also added a S/O Column and a Magic Number Change column too add more depth to the chart.

Dallas, Los Angeles and San Jose all dropped one number tonight!
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:10 PM

Dallas, Los Angeles and San Jose all dropped one number tonight!


Yea good results tonight. Dallas losing meant Detroit winning but what can you do..
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:55 PM

You can tell that S/Os play a major factor b/c Minny's magic no. is actually higher than Chicago's and as high as SJ's - even though the Wild have a lower P%. It's no coincidence that it's due to the fact that their S/O record is a dysmal 0-4, and hence they have the tiebreaker over anybody else in that regard.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:58 PM

You need to double check your numbers. This is the formula I use: Team's games remaining - (points differential/2) + 0.5 (to ensure that the Canucks end up with more points, avoids tiebreakers).

For example, Dallas's number is at 42, but it should be 44 (44-0.5+0.5). Say the Canucks won 42 games, the Stars could win all 44 and pass the Canucks.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 12:55 AM

You need to double check your numbers. This is the formula I use: Team's games remaining - (points differential/2) + 0.5 (to ensure that the Canucks end up with more points, avoids tiebreakers).

For example, Dallas's number is at 42, but it should be 44 (44-0.5+0.5). Say the Canucks won 42 games, the Stars could win all 44 and pass the Canucks.


Actually considering that they have 4 Shootout wins, that automatically means that Dallas needs to have 4 wins higher than Vancouver's to beat them out. The reason behind that is because of the new shootout rules. It essentially works the same as a OT/SO Loss.

Dallas has 48 Points with 44 Games remaining (thats 88 Points). Assume Dallas finishes the season 66-12-4 and Vancouver finishes the season 65-11-6. Because Dallas has 4 Shootout wins, it'd be saying that dallas has a record of 62-12-8 while Vancouver has a record of 64-11-7. you see the difference?

So for every Shootout win TEAM B has, I take off 0.5 points, but for every shootout win vancouver has, I add 0.5 Points. As well I consider 0.0 still active in the race. As soon as the magic number hits -0.5, then they become eliminated. It works the same way.

Edited by Shaelon, 30 December 2010 - 12:59 AM.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 03:52 AM

Actually considering that they have 4 Shootout wins, that automatically means that Dallas needs to have 4 wins higher than Vancouver's to beat them out. The reason behind that is because of the new shootout rules. It essentially works the same as a OT/SO Loss.

Dallas has 48 Points with 44 Games remaining (thats 88 Points). Assume Dallas finishes the season 66-12-4 and Vancouver finishes the season 65-11-6. Because Dallas has 4 Shootout wins, it'd be saying that dallas has a record of 62-12-8 while Vancouver has a record of 64-11-7. you see the difference?

So for every Shootout win TEAM B has, I take off 0.5 points, but for every shootout win vancouver has, I add 0.5 Points. As well I consider 0.0 still active in the race. As soon as the magic number hits -0.5, then they become eliminated. It works the same way.

But their number could go down to zero and they would still be able to pass us, which defeats the purpose. It doesn't matter who has more shootout wins if one team has more points than the other. That's why I add 0.5 points regardless, that way you don't need to worry about tiebreakers.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 04:43 AM

Thursday, December 30th, 2010:
I have revised the formula. Thanks to ghettoastronaut!

N = ((B+RPTS) - A / 2) + 0.5

Edited by Shaelon, 30 December 2010 - 05:01 AM.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 11:45 PM

Thursday, December 30th, 2010:
Update: New Chart is up!
LAK, CHI lost 1.0 Magic Points!
EDM Lost 0.5 Magic Points!
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 10:35 PM

Friday, December 31st, 2010:
HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!
Magic Number Chart has been updated. Vancouver winning means -1.0 Points being dropped for every other team. Further point drops are indicated :)

Biggest Losers: Phoenix, Minnesota and Detroit!
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 11:30 PM

thanks, ive always loved magic number threads!
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Posted 02 January 2011 - 12:00 AM

Saturday, January 1st, 2011:
Magic Number Chart has been updated!
Los Angeles and Edmonton with one point losses!
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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:28 AM

I think its easy to look at it this way, in 19 more wins, the canucks make the playoffs, in 25 more wins they will win the division and in 30 more wins maybe even the conference.
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Posted 02 January 2011 - 11:38 PM

Sunday, January 2nd, 2011:
Magic Number Chart has been updated!
All teams lost at least 1.0 points!
DET,STL, COL, CBJ, CHI with 2.0 point losses!
PHX With a 1.5 point loss!
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