Louis Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 You're right, some idiots probably got frustrated that they couldn't understand what you were talking about and gave you minuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckwit Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 You're right, some idiots probably got frustrated that they couldn't understand what you were talking about and gave you minuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_City123 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Wow that is so hard to believe how we have our destiny in our own hands at this part of the season. Go Canucks Go.What a magical season thats for damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTW Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 <br />Five more points, earned by us or lost by the Flames and Wild, and the division title is ours.<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieksa's Quote Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> All those other teams have games against each other so it might not be possible for enough teams to catch the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrudeauVoter Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 if canucks win 2 more games they will clinch the division, thus getting a playoff spot too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboard888 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Let's settle this: Assuming all the opposition remaining games are 3-pointers: 9th Preds win all their remaining games: 106 pts8th Lames win all their remaining games (nothing vs. Preds): 103 pts7th Yotes win all remaining games except vs. Lames (nothing vs. Preds): 106 pts6th Kings win all remaining games except vs. Yotes, Lames, Preds (1 each): 106 pts5th Hawks win all remaining games except vs. Yotes (nothing vs. others): 108 pts4th Stars win all remaining games except vs. ^teams: 105 pts3rd Sharks win all reaming games except vs. ^teams: 103 pts2nd Wings win all remaining games except vs ^teams: 111 ptsALL MORE THAN VAN HAS NOW (99 pts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kenobi Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Canucks can still fall as far as 11th in the conference, if you include OT wins. The key number is 103 points. Without OT wins, they can fall to 10th, ahead of Anaheim. Anaheim cannot catch Vancouver without pulling down one of the other teams. Red Wings win Hurricanes, Blues, Leafs, Canucks, Penguins, Jackets (108) Red Wings lose Preds(OT), Preds(OT), Wild(OT), Hawks(OT), Hawks(OT), Hawks(OT) Sharks win Blues, Stars, Stars, Ducks, Ducks (103) Sharks lose Flames(OT), Wild(OT), Coyotes(OT), Coyotes(OT), Coyotes (OT), Kings(OT), Kings(OT) Blackhawks win Capitals, Red Wings, Red Wings, Red Wings, Bruins, Lightning, Canadiens, Jackets, Blues, Panthers (105) Blackhawks lose Ducks(OT), Coyotes(OT), Stars(OT), Sharks(OT) Nashville win Bruins, Red Wings, Sabres, Oilers, Canucks, Avalanche, Thrashers, Bluejackets, Blues, Red Wings (103)Nashville lose Ducks(OT), Stars(OT), Kings(OT) Phoenix win Avalanche, Jackets, Blues, Hawks, Canucks, Oilers, Sharks, Sharks, Coyotes (103) Phoenix lose Kings(OT), Stars(OT), Sharks(OT), Flames(OT) Stars win Jackets, Avalanche, Flyers, Hawks, Preds, Coyotes, Ducks (102) Stars lose Sharks(OT), Sharks(OT), Ducks(OT), Kings(OT), Wild(OT), Kings (OT) Kings win Oilers, Canucks, Avalanche, Blues, Preds, Ducks (102) Kings lose Sharks(OT), Sharks(OT), Stars(OT), Stars(OT), Ducks(OT), Flames(OT), Ducks(OT), Coyotes(OT) Minnesota win Canucks, Sharks, Jackets, Canadiens, Leafs, Blues, Blues, Oilers, Lightning, Red Wings, Canucks, Oilers, (101) Minnesota lose Stars(OT) Ducks win Blues, Preds, Avalanche, Hawks, Stars, Stars, Flames, Kings, Kings, Flames (102) Ducks lose Kings(OT), Stars(OT), Sharks (OT), Sharks (OT), Coyotes (OT) Flames win Avalanche, Oilers, Blues, Avalanche, Oilers, Canucks, Coyotes, Ducks, Kings, Sharks Flames lose, Ducks (OT) (102) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Okay, let me spell it out for the ones this is going over the heads of: If Nashville wins all their remaining games, the teams they play will not get points in these games. Some of these teams will be above them in the current standing which means that they will slip. The site the guy used put all this into consideration and found that mathematically, it is not possible for the Canucks to finish below the top 8. It is not as simple as getting the games remaining from the cutoff team, multiplying them by 2, adding them to their current point total and comparing that to the amount of points we have. EDIT: Ok, the guy misunderstood how that site worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Belgian Canucks Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 10 done, 19 to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyDaTiger Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Stop jumping the freakin' gun, man. We don't clinch until we clinch. I don't think anyone really gives two-sh!ts about some simulation. The next thing we know, this guy will start running some simulation about who wins the Stanley Cup... If you want to do it the right way, then wait until the moment we get 108 points(I think)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Let's settle this: Assuming all the opposition remaining games are 3-pointers: 9th Preds win all their remaining games: 106 pts8th Lames win all their remaining games (nothing vs. Preds): 103 pts7th Yotes win all remaining games except vs. Lames (nothing vs. Preds): 106 pts6th Kings win all remaining games except vs. Yotes, Lames, Preds (1 each): 106 pts5th Hawks win all remaining games except vs. Yotes (nothing vs. others): 108 pts4th Stars win all remaining games except vs. ^teams: 105 pts3rd Sharks win all reaming games except vs. ^teams: 103 pts2nd Wings win all remaining games except vs ^teams: 111 ptsALL MORE THAN VAN HAS NOW (99 pts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kenobi Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Post above says you are wrong. That site wouldn't happen to be sports club stats? All they do is run simulations saying that there is a less than 1 in 10 million chance of the Canucks missing the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaDeuce Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Let's settle this: Assuming all the opposition remaining games are 3-pointers: 9th Preds win all their remaining games: 106 pts8th Lames win all their remaining games (nothing vs. Preds): 103 pts7th Yotes win all remaining games except vs. Lames (nothing vs. Preds): 106 pts6th Kings win all remaining games except vs. Yotes, Lames, Preds (1 each): 106 pts5th Hawks win all remaining games except vs. Yotes (nothing vs. others): 108 pts4th Stars win all remaining games except vs. ^teams: 105 pts3rd Sharks win all reaming games except vs. ^teams: 103 pts2nd Wings win all remaining games except vs ^teams: 111 ptsALL MORE THAN VAN HAS NOW (99 pts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboard888 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 thanks for this but to be honest..who believes that the nucks will lose all remaining games??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHouse Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 It really is as simple as some other posters are saying. The way the NHL calculates it, a team has clinched a playoff spot when they have earned enough points where if they were then to lose all of their remaining games, and the teams outside of the top 8 spots cannot earn more points than that team to displace them in the standings. Basically, a team gets an X beside their name when the probability of said team dropping to 9th place in the conference is 0. What Sports Club Stats has done is calculated that Vancouver's chances of dropping to 9th place are so close to 0, that they might as well be 0, given the remaining games to be played by the other clubs in the West. Unfortunately for Vancouver fans, this number still isn' t quite 0, so we still haven't really clinched a spot yet. It's still statistically possible for us to drop to 9th. Sports Club Stats is saying "Lets take every possible scenario of the outcomes of the remaining games to be played to calculate the odds of a given team making the playoffs. The NHL on the other hand, says "What is the best case scenario (i.e. Winning all of a teams remaining games) or worst case scenario (losing all of their remaining games) depending on what result we are looking to determine and use only those. Using every possible scenario instead of best and/or worst case skews the odds one way or the other just a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kchengc Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Let's settle this: Assuming all the opposition remaining games are 3-pointers: 9th Preds win all their remaining games: 106 pts8th Lames win all their remaining games (nothing vs. Preds): 103 pts7th Yotes win all remaining games except vs. Lames (nothing vs. Preds): 106 pts6th Kings win all remaining games except vs. Yotes, Lames, Preds (1 each): 106 pts5th Hawks win all remaining games except vs. Yotes (nothing vs. others): 108 pts4th Stars win all remaining games except vs. ^teams: 105 pts3rd Sharks win all reaming games except vs. ^teams: 103 pts2nd Wings win all remaining games except vs ^teams: 111 ptsALL MORE THAN VAN HAS NOW (99 pts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyDaTiger Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Hockey Gawds really hate these type of threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xshaw Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Canucks can still fall as far as 11th in the conference, if you include OT wins. The key number is 113 points. Without OT wins, they can fall to 10th, ahead of Anaheim. Anaheim cannot catch Vancouver without pulling down one of the other teams. Red Wings win Hurricanes, Blues, Leafs, Canucks, Penguins, Jackets (118) Red Wings lose Preds(OT), Preds(OT), Wild(OT), Hawks(OT), Hawks(OT), Hawks(OT) Sharks win Blues, Stars, Stars, Ducks, Ducks (113) Sharks lose Flames(OT), Wild(OT), Coyotes(OT), Coyotes(OT), Coyotes (OT), Kings(OT), Kings(OT) Blackhawks win Capitals, Red Wings, Red Wings, Red Wings, Bruins, Lightning, Canadiens, Jackets, Blues, Panthers (115) Blackhawks lose Ducks(OT), Coyotes(OT), Stars(OT), Sharks(OT) Stars win Jackets, Avalanche, Flyers, Hawks, Preds, Coyotes, Ducks (112) Stars lose Sharks(OT), Sharks(OT), Ducks(OT), Kings(OT), Wild(OT), Kings (OT) Kings win Oilers, Canucks, Avalanche, Blues, Preds, Ducks (112) Kings lose Sharks(OT), Sharks(OT), Stars(OT), Stars(OT), Ducks(OT), Flames(OT), Ducks(OT), Coyotes(OT) Phoenix win Avalanche, Jackets, Blues, Hawks, Canucks, Oilers, Sharks, Sharks, Coyotes (113) Phoenix lose Kings(OT), Stars(OT), Sharks(OT), Flames(OT), Nashville win Bruins, Red Wings, Sabres, Oilers, Canucks, Avalanche, Thrashers, Bluejackets, Blues, Red Wings (113) Nashville lose Ducks(OT), Stars(OT), Kings(OT), Minnesota win Canucks, Sharks, Jackets, Canadiens, Leafs, Blues, Blues, Oilers, Lightning, Red Wings, Canucks, Oilers, (111) Minnesota lose, Stars(OT) Ducks win Blues, Preds, Avalanche, Hawks, Stars, Stars, Flames, Kings, Kings, Flames (112) Ducks lose Kings(OT), Stars(OT), Sharks (OT), Sharks (OT), Coyotes (OT) Flames win Avalanche, Oilers, Blues, Avalanche, Oilers, Canucks, Coyotes, Ducks, Kings, Sharks Flames lose, Ducks (OT) (112) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kenobi Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 u can try playing with numbers but i just don't think that's possible anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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