zombieksa Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 3 minutes and we know if we have the division... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTW Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <br />3 minutes and we know if we have the division...<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiCanuck Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 If you do the math, With a Calgary loss tonight regardless of Reg or OT, Canucks clinch a playoff spot because even if Minnesota won every single game Vancouver would hold all of the tie breakers, AND if and I mean IF Minny won every remaining game Vancouver could not finish below eigth place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTW Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <br />So if I am correct, if flames lose tonight they are out of the race of the NW division title, and cant finish anywhere higher then 3rd place. However Canucks can't clinch a playoff spot or the NW title due to the wild have a possibility to win all of their remaining 12 games, and finishing with 101 points and with 47 wins... Say however the wild win 2 of the games in SO while canucks lose their remaining 11 games in regulation, Canucks wouldd still clinch the NW title, due to the season series being tied or canucks winning the series or due to GF/ GA differential.. If the Canucks win tomorrow or lose in OT/ SO we clinch the NW title and a playoff spot no matter what and finish in the top 3 in the western conference.. btw flames are down 2-1 and its the end of 2nd period... BOOM<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiCanuck Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I hope they dont either, but we're not officially clinching anything till Minnesota loses or Canucks lose in OT/ SO, or Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latiser Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <br />Yeah, for presidents.<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty097 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 ok so basically after the flames loss tonight we need to get 1 point in our remaining 11 games to clinch the division....i think it's pretty safe to say we've clinched lol even though we haven't yet mathematically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieksa's Quote Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> Minnesota sucks hard in the shootout and probably won't get any wins that way. But yeah I'm more concerned about the Detroits magic number which is at eight right now, Vancouver needs any combo of wins and Detroit losses adding up to 8 in the next 11 games for Vancouver and 13 for Detroit. So in 24 games the Canucks need eight positive results to eliminate Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTW Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <br />Think of it this way ....in the 24 games Detroit would need A LOT more positive results to eliminate the Canucks. So far be it from me to assume that those 8 positive results in 24 games (1/3) isn't reasonably easy to attain.<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoShowWilly Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 ok so basically after the flames loss tonight we need to get 1 point in our remaining 11 games to clinch the division....i think it's pretty safe to say we've clinched lol even though we haven't yet mathematically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaDeuce Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 we have clinched. we are up 20 points on the flames and they have 10 games left. we have them beat on Regulation/overtime wins + head to head. Canucks are officially clinched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bob Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 we have clinched. we are up 20 points on the flames and they have 10 games left. we have them beat on Regulation/overtime wins + head to head. Canucks are officially clinched. Detroit, San Jose, L.A, Phoenix, Chicago, Dallas, Nashville, Anaheim and Minnesota can still all pass us. That's 9. As for "but they play each other" read this: That's right, sportsclubstats 'only' looks at 100 million possible ways the western conference could play out, when in fact there are about 10^60 (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) possible ways the conference could finish. One of those ways puts the Canucks in 11th place: All 3 point games: Canucks lose all games - 101 pts MIN wins all games - 101 pts but they have the tiebreaker CGY wins all games except against ANA - 102 pts ANA wins all games except against CGY, CHI, SJS - 102 pts NSH wins all games except against LAK, DET, ANA, DAL - 102 pts DAL wins all games except against CHI, ANAx2, PHX, LAK, MIN - 102 pts LAK wins all games except against ANAx3, CGY, SJSx2, PHX - 102 pts PHX wins all games except against CGY, SJSx3 - 102 pts CHI wins all games except against PHX, DETx2 - 102 pts SJS wins all games except against DALx2, MIN, CGY, ANA - 105 pts DET wins all games except against NSH, MIN, CHI - 113 pts The good news is I think the Canucks can no longer finish 12th, even though the Magic Number chart implies otherwise, there just aren't enough possible points left to spread around 12 teams. Magic Numbers are often (but not always) misleading in terms of worst case scenario and playoff clinching. Fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Tuesday, March 15th, 2011: Magic Number Charts have been updated! MTL, DAL, CGY, NSH and BUF Dropped 1 Point! CBJ Dropped 0.5 Points! NYR and BUF's Magic Number has reached 0! 0-10-1 Record needed to clinch a playoff spot and the Northwest Division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Detroit, San Jose, L.A, Phoenix, Chicago, Dallas, Nashville, Anaheim and Minnesota can still all pass us. That's 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bob Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thus win tommorrow and start the resting program... Remember the good ol' days when the goal was to win the division? A win tomorrow and we will knock Minnesota and Calgary out of potential of catching us. We are spoiled though. I'm looking at the magic number and am kinda saddened that we won't lower Colorado's magic number by 2 because it's already zero. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 A win tomorrow and we can all breathe easier. FOR NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoShowWilly Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 ???? minnesota! didn't even think about them.... i guess i'll go watch the canucks clinch tomorrow then. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaDeuce Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 sorry guys didn't mean to yell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman1661 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 we don't even need a win tomorrow to clinch, even an OT loss would reduce those numbers to 0 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@LUONGO@ Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Why is calgarys number still 0.5? It should be 0 we have them beat in all the tie breakers there is no way they can pass us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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