Brad Marchand Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Might have seen the last of Davies in a Caps uniform: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 2018-07-14 at 11:34 PM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I think you’re right that the Netherlands to England path might be better for him, especially in terms of his coaching and development. And it could also prove over the long term to be the more lucrative route for VWFC, if they received a sell-on option and a percentage of any future transfers. But I see the Caps going simply highest bidder and chasing the quickest buck, which likely means one of the bigger clubs will put in the winning bid to become the winner of the Davies Derby. Regardless, it will be fun to see where he ends up. Hopefully he lives up to his billing. Canada could certainly use “the best footballer in the world for his age group” for international duties over the next decade or two. Wow headed to Bayern Munich for 12 million US. Wonder if they would loan him to Borussia Dortmund to play with Pulisic? Could be great for his development. Dortmund has a reputation of providing a good developing place for young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Sounds like it’ll be closer to 14 or 15 million US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Wonder how good the unnamed sources are for this rumour? Seems like all the chatter tracks back to that one Athletic story from Dyer. Not saying it won’t happen. Just gonna have to wait and see where things shake out. If it’s $12 million (or 14-15), I hope there’s also a sell-on clause attached. It’s a record sum for MLS, but a similar quality young player from a more established county/league might easily command $25 million or more. Also, as far as I understand FIFA regulations, Davies can’t actually be transferred until this November when he turns 18. http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-fifa/story/2786732/fifa-transfer-regulations-article-19 This doesn’t prevent them from working out the details now, but I don’t think an international transfer can go through until the player is 18. So hopefully that means Davies finishes out the season with VWFC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Yup, and he's not in the lineup today. Perhaps things are afoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralus91 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 19 hours ago, Chip Kelly said: Wow headed to Bayern Munich for 12 million US. Wonder if they would loan him to Borussia Dortmund to play with Pulisic? Could be great for his development. Dortmund has a reputation of providing a good developing place for young players. That wouldn't make any sense for us. Thankfully, we are not in the position anymore where we have to develop players for one of our biggest rivals. Hearing we're considering an offer ourselves. Though Bayern is the favourite to sign him according to German media. Don't think a move would be the right thing for him now as both Dortmund and Bayern are pretty stacked with wingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 So how does that 12 million get split up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, DeNiro said: So how does that 12 million get split up? Davies is “homegrown” so I believe VWFC will get 100% of the fee. It has to be used for “soccer operations” and according to @GlassCityFC (who’s usually pretty solid), the club plans to put the full amount toward player acquisitions. https://twitter.com/GlassCityFC/status/1020740230599458816?s=20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Davies is “homegrown” so I believe VWFC will get 100% of the fee. It has to be used for “soccer operations” and according to @GlassCityFC (who’s usually pretty solid), the club plans to put the full amount toward player acquisitions. https://twitter.com/GlassCityFC/status/1020740230599458816?s=20 so in theory they can use all those proceeds for the operating expenses of the entire club next season and simply pocket all the other revenues the team earns from ticket sales, etc.??? so it appears there really are very few meaningful controls in place "player aquisitions" does not mean the team is raising the team salary cap substantially and i really do not get why this deal has to be done now immediately! the kid is still 17will he really be worth less at the end of the caps current season? and only was just showing flashes of how special he really might be maybe with a number of other flashes of brilliance he could have been sold for more ? and entertained the locals a wee bit longer who is going to want to watch this team moving forward they just sold their best player for cash and no realistic replacement in sight he and kamara were the only reasons to watch this team and kamara will not be as productive without him i wonder if i can get a refund on my sept 1 tickets ? Edited July 22, 2018 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, coastal.view said: so in theory they can use all those proceeds for the operating expenses of the entire club next season and simply pocket all the other revenues the team earns from ticket sales, etc.??? so it appears there really are very few meaningful controls in place "player aquisitions" does not mean the team is raising the team salary cap substantially and i really do not get why this deal has to be done now immediately! the kid is still 17will he really be worth less at the end of the caps current season? and only was just showing flashes of how special he really might be maybe with a number of other flashes of brilliance he could have been sold for more ? and entertained the locals a wee bit longer who is going to want to watch this team moving forward they just sold their best player for cash and no realistic replacement in sight he and kamara were the only reasons to watch this team and kamara will not be as productive without him i wonder if i can get a refund on my sept 1 tickets ? I hear ya. Davies was pretty much all that’s been keeping me invested lately. Such a frustrating season (other than watching Fonzy). And tonight certainly didn’t help. Wish they were somehow selling Juárez instead. What an idiot. And while the $12M sounds like a lot, I think it’s a bit of a lowball personally. Especially with the recent rumours Bayern is still haggling on the price. You’d think they’d just pay the $12M and race out of town like this lady: But hopefully there are bonus clauses and a sell on percentage. Regardless, your point is well taken about VWFC possibly just using the fee to pay down current salaries and not splashing money around on new players. Hopefully that’s not gonna be the case. The fans deserve better. I’m trying to be optimistic that this windfall means we’ll see some big names added to the future roster. Edited July 22, 2018 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I hear ya. Davies was pretty much all that’s been keeping me invested lately. Such a frustrating season (other than watching Fonzy). And tonight certainly didn’t help. Wish they were somehow selling Juárez instead. What an idiot. And while the $12M sounds like a lot, I think it’s a bit of a lowball personally. Especially with the recent rumours Bayern is still haggling on the price. You’d think they’d just pay the $12M and race out of town like this lady: Bayern has a recent history of being a bit cheap on the transfer market, so this shouldn't surprise you much. Almost reminds me a bit of the Caps ownership. Meanwhile, the Caps have become way too reliant on counterattacking to produce offence. The Sounders figured this out last year and now just sit players back and make the Whitecaps generate chances through build-up play, which they don't have the personnel or training to do consistently against properly organized defences like Seattle. They could try to sell Juarez, but probably wouldn't get more than a bag full of balls the way he's playing. Edited July 22, 2018 by Brad Marchand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkNuk Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Davies is “homegrown” so I believe VWFC will get 100% of the fee. It has to be used for “soccer operations” and according to @GlassCityFC (who’s usually pretty solid), the club plans to put the full amount toward player acquisitions. https://twitter.com/GlassCityFC/status/1020740230599458816?s=20 When you think about it, 12 million isn't really a lot. The Caps could sign a 4 million dollar player for three years. And the money is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralus91 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I think the problem here is mostly his contract, which runs out at the end of this year. It's the choice between 12m now or nothing next year. Price would probably be a lot higher if he had a longer contract. Haven't seen a lot of him, but it would probably benefit his development if he stayed at least another year in the MLS and then look for a upper-mid table European side to set foot in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 15 hours ago, UnkNuk said: When you think about it, 12 million isn't really a lot. The Caps could sign a 4 million dollar player for three years. And the money is gone. There will probably be added clauses and a sell on fee included in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizarre Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: There will probably be added clauses and a sell on fee included in the deal. Hopefully yes, honestly I would rather see him sold to a "smaller" club in one of the top leagues with a sell on fee included. Itll be sad to see him go, but also the best thing for the kid and Canadian soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Seems a bit strange to sell Alfonso, then use the money to try to replace Alfonso. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 They better get some good players for alll this money they getting for davies, if not , people need to boycott the whitecaps, cause if they dont buy new players, than what they gonna do with all that money sit on Bob Lenarduzzi lap? lol as it stands our team cant score, think we goalless in 3 games now? in any regards, we need a superstar like toronto has with givinco and altidore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 12 hours ago, ReggieBush said: There will probably be added clauses and a sell on fee included in the deal. Yeah, seeing rumours now that the Caps are asking for an additional $6 million in bonuses plus a 15% sell on. Also some recent reports in the UK papers saying the fee may go as high as £15m (~$20m USD). Those numbers sound a bit better. But it all depends on how VWFC actually spends that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Davies is back training with Caps today. All the transfer talk seems to be about a pre-transfer negotiation, with the actual transfer coming in January. So Davies should remain with VWFC through the end of the MLS season. Then he’ll start 2019 in Europe. These appear to be the details: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Davies is back training with Caps today. All the transfer talk seems to be about a pre-transfer negotiation, with the actual transfer coming in January. So Davies should remain with VWFC through the end of the MLS season. Then he’ll start 2019 in Europe. These appear to be the details: so will they hold him out of competition for the rest of the season now ? 21 hours ago, gurn said: Seems a bit strange to sell Alfonso, then use the money to try to replace Alfonso. because they won't that much is clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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