Convicted child murderer Allan Schoenborn has been granted “some community access” in the form of escorted day leaves

[justinkredabul]

they should amend the law then. Give him the treatment needed to fix whatever problem he has and when he's mentally healthy, LOCK HIM THE EFF UP for what he did. Either way, he should serve a full sentence.

[Wetcoaster]

If he is mentally ill enough to slaughter his own three children, that key shouldve been thrown away as soon as he was locked up.

I don't care about all this legal crap you're spewing wetcoaster, it is a known fact the legal system in Canada is a crock. The system works to protect criminals more so than the average citizen and its sickening.

You re-inforcing this already crock law only further shows lawyers are similar to a robot, heart-less and programmed to do one thing, in your case it's hold up a technicality of the law.

Insane or not, someone slaughters three people they ARE murderers. Being insane instantly becomes an excuse for any murderer, you see?

[Wetcoaster]

My problem is with the man being allowed to "get a coffee" or "swim at the pool" not the original ruling. It just seems like poor judgement because of the circus it has created, for one thing.

Although having looked over your last post I was surprised. This man seems to be a schizophrenic. Its a terrible affliction, and a commonly misunderstood one.

Unfortunately, his fleeing from authorities and desire for revenge make it sound like he was coherent, and consumed by jealousy. I would have guessed sociopathic tendencies based on that.

[Wetcoaster]

they should amend the law then. Give him the treatment needed to fix whatever problem he has and when he's mentally healthy, LOCK HIM THE EFF UP for what he did. Either way, he should serve a full sentence.

[masutheakita]

i hope that he is "cured" and doesn't kill again.

wetcoaster... would you invite mr schoenborn to stay over at your place?

[Wetcoaster]

i hope that he is "cured" and doesn't kill again.

wetcoaster... would you invite mr schoenborn to stay over at your place?

[masutheakita]

Since he remains a danger and is in secure custody, the question seems irrelevant.

[Wetcoaster]

you know very well the question was hypothetical.

ok i will set more parameters. assume he is declared no longer a danger and allowed back into the public.

will you invite him to stay over at your house?

[masutheakita]

I do not deal in hypotheticals.

[sakage.shinga]

A guy that should be put in jail now being offered coffee runs & health clubs. What a joke this is. It's exactly this type of thing that makes the death penalty seem like a good idea. Epic fail.

[Wetcoaster]

A guy that should be put in jail now being offered coffee runs & health clubs. What a joke this is. It's exactly this type of thing that makes the death penalty seem like a good idea. Epic fail.

[Wetcoaster]

i'm not as edumacated as you but that seems like a hypothetical.

[OgS.MVP]

These type of reports always make me wonder, why we do not have capital punishment.

This is one thing that I wish we had. Why waste our taxpayer's money on that scum, keeping them in jail, feeding them.

Just kill them and let families that suffered live their lives. It sickens me when I hear that a convicted killer is out in 2-3 years and the family now lives in fear.

Some will say, "But this will make us no better than them." - This is crap, those people killed innocent people, we are just getting rid of that garbage.

[Wetcoaster]

These type of reports always make me wonder, why we do not have capital punishment.

This is one thing that I wish we had. Why waste our taxpayer's money on that scum, keeping them in jail, feeding them.

Just kill them and let families that suffered live their lives. It sickens me when I hear that a convicted killer is out in 2-3 years and the family now lives in fear.

Some will say, "But this will make us no better than them." - This is crap, those people killed innocent people, we are just getting rid of that garbage.

[masutheakita]

Not a hypothetical - an 11 year old was in fact tasered.

[Wetcoaster]

iirc you were a border agent.

since border agents do not carry tasers, you put yourself in a hypothetical situation.

[Wetcoaster]

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[ManUtd]

The junior RCMP member (1.5 years on the job) who deployed the CEW has been reassigned to administrative duties as the investigation proceeds.

West Vancouver police spokesman Cpl. Fred Harding told a press conference Monday in Prince George he expects the detectives' report will be made public and could include a recommendation of criminal charges against the officer involved. Harding was unable to say whether the boy was armed at the time or what other measures the officer took to de-escalate the situation.

The junior Prince George RCMP officer who Tasered an 11-year-old ward of the state has been pulled out of circulation while his actions are investigated by an outside police force.

Two detectives from the West Vancouver Police Department arrived in the city Sunday night and are speaking to witnesses and others involved in last Thursday's incident.

West Vancouver police spokesman Cpl. Fred Harding told a press conference Monday in Prince George that the officer in question has 1.5 years' experience and has been reassigned to administrative duties for "procedural reasons."

The incident unfolded last Thursday when Mounties were called out to a report of a stabbing in a rural area outside the city. The 11-year-old boy apparently fled from the home where the stabbing took place, but was discovered by police in a nearby building.

As the boy exited the building, he was jolted with the Taser and taken into custody. Harding was unable to say whether the boy was armed at the time or what other measures the officer took to de-escalate the situation.

The stabbing victim was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, while the boy, who cannot be charged as he is under the age of 12, was "rendered as uninjured," Harding said, and remains in the care of the Ministry of Children and Family Development.

Police are not releasing the name or address of the facility where the incident took place. Harding said that decision was made in consultation with the MCFD because, "we don't want to stigmatize anybody."

A ministry spokesperson clarified by e-mail that the boy was not in a group home, but rather "a staffed residential resource."

"This is a very different thing. He was in a resource developed for his special needs. There are no other children in the resource, and there are three dedicated staff for him 24 hours" a day.

West Vancouver police Sgt. Paul Skelton, one of two spokesperson sent to Prince George with the two detectives, acknowledged that anytime police investigate other police, there is "always a bit of cynicism, but as police officers we want to do a very good job on this."

The detectives' report, which Harding expects will be made public, could include a recommendation of criminal charges against the officer involved.

Prince George RCMP Supt. Brenda Butterworth-Carr said the circumstances surrounding the incident triggered an internal policy that prompted her to inform the force's B.C. headquarters, which initiated the probe.

"Certainly the age (of the Taser victim) was definitely a factor in that decision," she said.

http://www.bclocalne.../119636674.html

[Red Light Racicot]

There was someting else about this case I found difficult to understand. Apparently, in the past mister Schoenborn had been perscribed medication for his condition, and refused to take them.

This was kind of alarming to me. In the courtroom mister Schoenborn was described as calm, tranquil. It would seem that whatever medication he is taking now is making a difference.

If you are prone to angry outbursts and violent behavior that can be managed with the right medication, doesnt mister Schoenborn have a responsibility to take those medications? And if not, why not? This tragedy could have been avoided.

Theres three kids in the house with a man who is at risk of completely losing his mind... this is no good.

[EX_Bert_Worshipper]

At what point do these laws actually serve to protect those who were meant to be protected? It seems that with all the legalities and lawyers keen on finding loopholes, common sense is thrown to the wayside.

Am I to buy that he was insane enough to kill his own children and pose them for his wife to find, but that he is okay now?

What a slap in the face over and over and over again to grant him anything.

And if he is troubled or mentally unstable, I get that. I know people who have struggled with mental issues. So, if that is the case with Schoenborn, continue to get this man some help, but for goodness sake, he doesn't need to have day passes.