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an uncoachable player?

E. Kane wouldn't see the ice with AV.

There's no sarcasm with you people, is there?

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Yup, I seriously question his willingness to be a top player and good teammate after hearing so many things about him. Unless being in Don Hay's backyard is going to make him fall in line, I've switched to the side that regardless of his skill he isn't worth it.

Granted, if Winnipeg wants to give him up for not much in return, I'd think about it. In the meantime I'll stick with who we have, Jensen and Kassian coming up, Booth and Burrows already here, and Higgins, Hansen, etc. supporting them as top 9 forwards.

Evander Kane would be a massive pick-up. Put up 30 goals and 57 points in the NHL as a 20 year old.

I would trade a lot to get Kane to line up beside Ryan Kesler and Zack Kassian.

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Jensen was -1 with no points, 5 shots and 17:39 of ice time for AIK in a 4-3 win over Rogle BK yesterday. His next game is on Boxing Day against the Sedins' old team, MODO Hockey.

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Jensen was -1 with no points, 5 shots and 17:39 of ice time for AIK in a 4-3 win over Rogle BK yesterday. His next game is on Boxing Day against the Sedins' old team, MODO Hockey.

He had a goal waived off for 'kicking it in', the call wasn't very solid.

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He had a goal waived off for 'kicking it in', the call wasn't very solid.

That's what I heard. Shame. The important thing is we know he pretty much scored, whether he got credit for the goal or not.

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Would love to see us get Jenner from Columbus somehow. That guys a beast and a former teammate of Jensen's.

Imagine a line of:

Jensen - Jenner - Kassian

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Would love to see us get Jenner from Columbus somehow. That guys a beast and a former teammate of Jensen's.

Imagine a line of:

Jensen - Jenner - Kassian

If Gaunce works on his skating and becomes a higher end skater like Jenner is we won't have to worry about trading for him :P

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Would love to see us get Jenner from Columbus somehow. That guys a beast and a former teammate of Jensen's.

Imagine a line of:

Jensen - Jenner - Kassian

I take it you didn't see the highlight of Jenner's late hit in the Can/Swe WJC game yesterday morning. Jenner is a good player, no doubt, and I'm not saying to insinuate he's dirty, but that was his only memorable moment of the two warmup games as he was largely ineffective and with Canada already having only 1 forward that game, it wasn't particularly a smart play.

I think he'll find a spot in the NHL, but his recent offensive production in Junior has led some people to overrate him. He's still a 3rd line center in the NHL in my mind, perhaps with he ability to fill in on the 2nd line if he continues to improve, but not someone I'd envision being a future linemate for Jensen and Kassian unless those two don't live up to expectations (reasonable ones, not the overhyped ones).

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I take it you didn't see the highlight of Jenner's late hit in the Can/Swe WJC game yesterday morning. Jenner is a good player, no doubt, and I'm not saying to insinuate he's dirty, but that was his only memorable moment of the two warmup games as he was largely ineffective and with Canada already having only 1 forward that game, it wasn't particularly a smart play.

I think he'll find a spot in the NHL, but his recent offensive production in Junior has led some people to overrate him. He's still a 3rd line center in the NHL in my mind, perhaps with he ability to fill in on the 2nd line if he continues to improve, but not someone I'd envision being a future linemate for Jensen and Kassian unless those two don't live up to expectations (reasonable ones, not the overhyped ones).

Doubt you'd say that if he was a Canuck prospect.

I think Jenner has pretty good potential to be a good 2nd line center and a safe bet to be an NHL 3rd line center.

Curious as to how you project Gaunce, who is a poor man's Jenner. 4th liner with 3rd line potential?

IMO Gaunce is a 3rd liner with 2nd line potential - less than Jenner though.

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Doubt you'd say that if he was a Canuck prospect.

I think Jenner has pretty good potential to be a good 2nd line center and a safe bet to be an NHL 3rd line center.

Curious as to how you project Gaunce, who is a poor man's Jenner. 4th liner with 3rd line potential?

IMO Gaunce is a 3rd liner with 2nd line potential - less than Jenner though.

Well, there's what I'd like to see and what I think I'll see. I've always been pretty realistic about our prospects and would put Gaunce as a 3rd line center who could play 2nd line easily if his offence is consistent/effective enough. Jenner's similar, but doesn't have the leadership qualities. It'll take him more than one significant year (well, half a year so far) of offensive output to change my mind when he's made some bad decisions on a big stage like the WJC.

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Well, there's what I'd like to see and what I think I'll see. I've always been pretty realistic about our prospects and would put Gaunce as a 3rd line center who could play 2nd line easily if his offence is consistent/effective enough. Jenner's similar, but doesn't have the leadership qualities. It'll take him more than one significant year (well, half a year so far) of offensive output to change my mind when he's made some bad decisions on a big stage like the WJC.

How do you figure Jenner is a less of a leader than Gaunce? Jenner had the "C" on a far more competent team at the same age as Jenner. Belleville didn't exactly have too many options when they chose Gaunce, although I think he is captain material even if they did. I'm just saying that Jenner is just as much a leader as Gaunce.

And Jenner's still a better prospect who's more likely to be a 2nd line center than Gaunce - at least he has a half a year of significant offensive output while Gaunce has regressed this year in terms of tangible offensive production.

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Jensen update:

He went pointless tonight for AIK in a 2-0 loss to MODO Hockey. He finished the game with an even rating, 2 shots and 13:47 of ice time. Unfortunately, looks like his ice time is steadily going down every game. Can anyone who watches AIK comment on this?

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How do you figure Jenner is a less of a leader than Gaunce? Jenner had the "C" on a far more competent team at the same age as Jenner. Belleville didn't exactly have too many options when they chose Gaunce, although I think he is captain material even if they did. I'm just saying that Jenner is just as much a leader as Gaunce.

And Jenner's still a better prospect who's more likely to be a 2nd line center than Gaunce - at least he has a half a year of significant offensive output while Gaunce has regressed this year in terms of tangible offensive production.

Perhaps I overstated what I meant in regards to the leadership qualities. I do think Gaunce's attitude better reflects a leader, and Jenner's suspension(s) at the WJC don't show me he's thinking of the team and looking to play a controlled game like a captain should.

Gaunce's offensive production not improving similarly to Jenner's this year is a little disappointing, as I would have liked to see him develop a lot more rather than just play a role. I certainly wasn't expecting Jenner to come in and be lighting up the WJC's either, but he was almost unnoticeable in the two warm up games a few days ago.

He's a good player, and one I was hoping we'd look at taking in the draft that year, but he's got some growing still to do himself. It's just my opinion among a sea of others, but I think he's not going to turn into a solid top 6 guy in the NHL, which some people are thinking with his increased offence this year, but he still has a lot of the tools to be a very good 3rd line center.

Jensen update:

He went pointless tonight for AIK in a 2-0 loss to MODO Hockey. He finished the game with an even rating, 2 shots and 13:47 of ice time. Unfortunately, looks like his ice time is steadily going down every game. Can anyone who watches AIK comment on this?

I don't know that his ice time was ever significantly more than that. Without looking back through the thread I'd say he probably had a high of 16+ minutes, which is a bit more but not like 18-20 minutes or anything. It might be just the result of less powerplays or something similar, what's the scoresheet look like in that regard?

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^^^ Ah okay fair enough.

I think that there's different ways of being a captain and a leader - some play the composed style that Gaunce plays and some play the brash style that Jenner plays.

I think as Canuck fans, given our recent lineage of captains who are composed and lead by example like Linden, Naslund and Henrik, we are more fond of the Gaunce-type players. I prefer Gaunce's style of leadership over Jenner's too.

I think Jenner's abrasive style is more akin to that of the brass-knuckle, crash-and-bang leadership that look to intimidate into other teams like Messier and Brown (more Brown than Messier). As Canucks fans, I think Jenner's style of leadership bring forth bad taste.

Both leaderships show success in the NHL. Some teams prefer the Jenner-type while others don't. I think the Canucks would desire Gaunce while teams like Boston would desire Jenner.

What makes Gaunce appealing is that he is capable of standing up for himself physically like Linden and unlike Henrik or Naslund. However, Gaunce nor Linden are able to stand up for themselves by hurting the opposing team on the power play or by scoring like Henrik and Naslund can. He'd make an excellent 2nd line center if he finds his offensive game. Hopefully we can have a Henrik-esque 1st line center by then as well.

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^^^ Ah okay fair enough.

I think that there's different ways of being a captain and a leader - some play the composed style that Gaunce plays and some play the brash style that Jenner plays.

I think as Canuck fans, given our recent lineage of captains who are composed and lead by example like Linden, Naslund and Henrik, we are more fond of the Gaunce-type players. I prefer Gaunce's style of leadership over Jenner's too.

I think Jenner's abrasive style is more akin to that of the brass-knuckle, crash-and-bang leadership that look to intimidate into other teams like Messier and Brown (more Brown than Messier). As Canucks fans, I think Jenner's style of leadership bring forth bad taste.

Both leaderships show success in the NHL. Some teams prefer the Jenner-type while others don't. I think the Canucks would desire Gaunce while teams like Boston would desire Jenner.

What makes Gaunce appealing is that he is capable of standing up for himself physically like Linden and unlike Henrik or Naslund. However, Gaunce nor Linden are able to stand up for themselves by hurting the opposing team on the power play or by scoring like Henrik and Naslund can. He'd make an excellent 2nd line center if he finds his offensive game. Hopefully we can have a Henrik-esque 1st line center by then as well.

I agree with this. I think if the Canucks can some how move up in the next draft and draft a first line center type player, then the prospect cupboard doesn't seem so bleak. Guance will be a very good complimentary type player. I like what I see out of him and has amazed me in some the most recent highlights I've seen from this season. Great pick by the Canucks!

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I agree with this. I think if the Canucks can some how move up in the next draft and draft a first line center type player, then the prospect cupboard doesn't seem so bleak. Guance will be a very good complimentary type player. I like what I see out of him and has amazed me in some the most recent highlights I've seen from this season. Great pick by the Canucks!

I'd love to see the Canucks move up in the 5th or 6th spot and draft Sean Monahan. He's the kind of player I'd like to see Vancouver mold their team around.

Not sure what it would take to get there, though.

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Yup, I'm more a fan of the Linden/Smyl approach to leadership, but I'd rather a step up to get the Sakic/Yzerman approach if I can get it. I wasn't a huge fan of Naslund's brand of leadership, and Henrik is a similar mold but I like him a bit better personally. Jenner has familiarity with Jensen at least, but I'm not sold on him being a match in the future with our other top 6 prospects - at least enough so that I'd want to trade for him considering what CBJ would want back at this point.

Jensen's a tough one to size up right now, playing well enough on a bad team in the SEL. Will that translate into a formidable top 6 guy as he develops or will he be a 40-50 point guy with good linemates? For the prospects we do have, I'd rather develop them than keep trying to trade up without a clear improvement.

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Jensen update:

He went pointless tonight for AIK in a 2-0 loss to MODO Hockey. He finished the game with an even rating, 2 shots and 13:47 of ice time. Unfortunately, looks like his ice time is steadily going down every game. Can anyone who watches AIK comment on this?

In the game previous to this one his icetime was about 40 seconds more than the game before that. With the addition of huselius to AIK's lineup he will not see QUITE as many minutes as some will be lost on the PP. But as far as I know he is on the 2nd line, and getting average 2nd line minutes most of the time. I didnt watch the game but its entirely possible AIK spent lots of time short handed which would affect jensens ice time for that lone game.

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