DeNiro Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Weird move. But we still own his rights don't we? I can't imagine his dream isn't to play in the NHL since he's Canadian. Maybe he believes that this is the best league to develop his skills. All isn't lost with this guy yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler83 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Does not mean they have lost him yet. I thought the Canucks had 1 more year to sign him before he becomes a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 He didn't sign with the Red Bulls. The Canucks made arrangements to have him play in Austria. I guess they feel its better for his development if he plays in Austria vs the ECHL And yes, he is still our property. We have until June 30, 2013 to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 He didn't sign with the Red Bulls. The Canucks made arrangements to have him play in Austria. I guess they feel its better for his development if he plays in Austria vs the ECHL And yes, he is still our property. We have until June 31, 2013 to sign him. Is there a source that this was a vancouver led decision and not him just following money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Is there a source that this was a vancouver led decision and not him just following money? Yah from a QMJHL writer for the Halifax chronicle-herald @CH_willyPalov The Vancouver Canucks have arranged for former Moosehead Alex Grenier to play for Pierre Page with Red Bull Salzburg in Austria this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigsaw99 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Why Gillis??... Austria League of all places?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Why Gillis??... Austria League of all places?? assuming the conclusion was drawn that he's not ready for the A, the austria league is better than the ECHL and Grenier can make more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Why Gillis??... Austria League of all places?? Gillis is assembling an army to be stationed in Aus...oh no I've said too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 There weren't going to be enough minutes in Chicago for him to properly develop is my guess. Rodin, Kassian (possibly), Schroeder, Sweatt, Friesen, Archibald, plus all of Wolves management's players (not to mention Gillis' history of adding a top end AHL scorer almost every year) and Grenier would have been healthy scratched quite a bit. It's disappointing that he's not ready for the AHL but at least he's going somewhere he can really work on his offensive skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Kalamazoo has enough Canuck signees playing for them. Gillis made the right call here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigsaw99 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Kalamazoo has enough Canuck signees playing for them. Gillis made the right call here. They have Archi, Anthony and Rai.... are they packed? Archi will play Wolves next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 They have Archi, Anthony and Rai.... are they packed? Archi will play Wolves next year. Yes they are, with our prospects and the players the Wolves sign themselves (Haydar) there would be no room for Grenier to play and develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostViking Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Schroeder, Schneider, Matson, Friesen, Rai will all be competing for Center positions on the Wolves next year. Reinprecht would certainly earn himself a spot if he returns, plus other non-Canuck property Wolves who may be back next year, and we can always sign a couple AHL guys to compete for jobs too. So we know of 5 canucks prospects at the least, plus potentially another 3-4 centers when we consider any off season AHL-level signings and Wolves guys coming back, that is a lot of players competing for 4 (potentially 5) spots. Seems likely people will be relegated to the K-Wings. I guess this could be good for Grenier's development, but I would hope he is planning to join the AHL the following year. I wonder if he is allowed to still attend Canucks training camp before heading to Austria, if I were the Canucks I would try to arrange that sort of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Schroeder, Schneider, Matson, Friesen, Rai will all be competing for Center positions on the Wolves next year. Reinprecht would certainly earn himself a spot if he returns, plus other non-Canuck property Wolves who may be back next year, and we can always sign a couple AHL guys to compete for jobs too. So we know of 5 canucks prospects at the least, plus potentially another 3-4 centers when we consider any off season AHL-level signings and Wolves guys coming back, that is a lot of players competing for 4 (potentially 5) spots. Seems likely people will be relegated to the K-Wings. I guess this could be good for Grenier's development, but I would hope he is planning to join the AHL the following year. I wonder if he is allowed to still attend Canucks training camp before heading to Austria, if I were the Canucks I would try to arrange that sort of a deal. He's already in Austria, moved into his apartment and everything. I don't see him coming back for training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Disappointing to lose a prospect like that. He had good size, but I heard he was soft and didn't use it. Oh well, not all gambles pay out. At least we found a gem in the late rounds in this year with Frank Corrado. Great, this POS took the money instead of developing in Chicago. We got a less talented, less everything Radulov on our hands. Does anyone really need any more proof as to why it can suck to play for this fanbase? Look how quickly we turn on our prospects! This is great news, obviously the Austrian league is what Gillis thinks is the best league for him to play in, difficult enough that it will be man against boys but easy enough that he should enjoy success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Does anyone really need any more proof as to why it can suck to play for this fanbase? Look how quickly we turn on our prospects! This is great news, obviously the Austrian league is what Gillis thinks is the best league for him to play in, difficult enough that it will be man against boys but easy enough that he should enjoy success. This is very true. Also, by all accounts (including my own), Greener is just not very physical, but is fast and keen offensively, while also being huge. His game is almost tailor-made for Euro leagues, where he wont be asked to be a tank like he would in the AHL or ECHL, this may be the best thing that could have happened to him developmentally. On top of this he's playing for the team with some of the best facilities in Western-Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 This is very true. Also, by all accounts (including my own), Greener is just not very physical, but is fast and keen offensively, while also being huge. His game is almost tailor-made for Euro leagues, where he wont be asked to be a tank like he would in the AHL or ECHL, this may be the best thing that could have happened to him developmentally. On top of this he's playing for the team with some of the best facilities in Western-Europe. As long as he's using his size to protect the puck i'm okay with him not hitting people. If he can become a lesser Jakub Voracek, I'd be extremely happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Gillis isn't in on this Austrian deal. He didn't offer Grenier a contract because he doesn't want a glut at the Kalamazoo level. He has enough of those guys and only fifty contacts to go around. Tochkin, Rai, Andersson, Archibald, Anthony, possibly Freisen; they all take up contract spots. Too many K-Wings spoil the broth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I had no idea Grenier was an overager. Guess I wasn't paying attention to his age. My first thought was, "Why is he not continuing to play with the Mooseheads in the Q?". Whatever happens, I hope he remains somewhat in the hands of the Canucks organization. If he develops nicely, he's the kind of player the Canucks will want on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Weird move. But we still own his rights don't we? I can't imagine his dream isn't to play in the NHL since he's Canadian. Maybe he believes that this is the best league to develop his skills. All isn't lost with this guy yet. Man i hope he comes to his senses and plays for Chicago. He was a point a game in the Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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