Canvoucer Vanuck Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 7G, 11A for 18 points in 17 games this year. Not sure but I think he's playing 2nd line RW, but also with MacKinnon on the top PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hope he does well, and he develops fast. We need a big, physical winger with some skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I was just looking at his stats on the Halifax Mooseheads site and it looks like he had 16 P 8 G 8 A in last years playoffs. Our first 3 picks last draft are all playoff performers, which is awesome, Jensen having 11 P in 10 games and Honzik being absolutely amazing in net for the Tigres. Bright future ahead for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Grenier seems to be picking it up. Seen he had 20 points in 20 games, he now has 28 points in 25 games for the Halifax Moosehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwilliam Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 6'5, 200 pounds, and more than a ppg in his second year of junior. Not bad at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 6'5, 200 pounds, and more than a ppg in his second year of junior. Not bad at all! Yes, it's his 2nd season in junior, but he's also an overager--meaning that he's a 20 year old 6'5" 200lb man playing in a league for 16-19 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yes, it's his 2nd season in junior, but he's also an overager--meaning that he's a 20 year old 6'5" 200lb man playing in a league for 16-19 year olds. Exactly. And it's going to be a tough call whether to offer him a contract or not with those kind of numbers all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Exactly. And it's going to be a tough call whether to offer him a contract or not with those kind of numbers all things considered. it's not that tough. MG: hey Grenier, you want a league minimum contract to play in the AHL and continue developing? AG: Sure. tada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 it's not that tough. MG: hey Grenier, you want a league minimum contract to play in the AHL and continue developing? AG: Sure. tada! I was under the impression that there was a maximum number of players that an org could have under contract at any one time under the CBA and that given that , it might not be wise to have 12 players under contract in Kalamazoo. I stand corrected, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I was under the impression that there was a maximum number of players that an org could have under contract at any one time under the CBA and that given that , it might not be wise to have 12 players under contract in Kalamazoo. I stand corrected, I guess. we have a lot of contracts coming off the books this season, and only 2 players in kalamazoo (ECHL, not AHL). I'm not sure how you would think this would max out our contracts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 we have a lot of contracts coming off the books this season, and only 2 players in kalamazoo (ECHL, not AHL). I'm not sure how you would think this would max out our contracts... Yeah but when you combine the likes of Schnieder, Tochkin, Achibald, Grenier, Erixon, Anthony, Andersson and maybe Freisen all potentially in Kalamazoo it does begin to cramp your ability to sign the likes of a Nathan Longpre when he comes along. All I'm saying is that I think Gillis is signing an awful lot of ECHL fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yeah but when you combine the likes of Schnieder, Tochkin, Achibald, Grenier, Erixon, Anthony, Andersson and maybe Freisen all potentially in Kalamazoo it does begin to cramp your ability to sign the likes of a Nathan Longpre when he comes along. All I'm saying is that I think Gillis is signing an awful lot of ECHL fodder. well you and i obviously disagree on the talent level of our prospects, and longpre could be signed at any time if we want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verloren Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yeah but when you combine the likes of Schnieder, Tochkin, Achibald, Grenier, Erixon, Anthony, Andersson and maybe Freisen all potentially in Kalamazoo it does begin to cramp your ability to sign the likes of a Nathan Longpre when he comes along. All I'm saying is that I think Gillis is signing an awful lot of ECHL fodder. Think a prospect isn't panning out? Waive and buy him out if he doesn't get claimed. Done. One more contract spot available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Think a prospect isn't panning out? Waive and buy him out if he doesn't get claimed. Done. One more contract spot available. I didn't know that the CBA allowed for the waiving and buying out of players on entry level deals playing in the low minors. If so, then problem solved I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verloren Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I didn't know that the CBA allowed for the waiving and buying out of players on entry level deals playing in the low minors. If so, then problem solved I guess. Havn't seen anything in the CBA preventing the buying out players who have entry level bonuses. I don't think it's done a lot, because the general evaluation of a prospect takes ~5 years on average from 1st eligible draft year and 1st contracts are usually 2-3 years in length. Even then, another team may be willing to take a shot at developing the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Some highlights from a month ago, but saw that they weren't posted. A couple of nice setups by Grenier: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Havn't seen anything in the CBA preventing the buying out players who have entry level bonuses. I don't think it's done a lot, because the general evaluation of a prospect takes ~5 years on average from 1st eligible draft year and 1st contracts are usually 2-3 years in length. Even then, another team may be willing to take a shot at developing the player. Yeah it's weird though 'cos usually when you see NHL teams buy out players part of their cap hit still counts for a while after... would it be the same for a prospect on an ELC despite never having had his cap hit actually count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22sedins33 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Yeah it's weird though 'cos usually when you see NHL teams buy out players part of their cap hit still counts for a while after... would it be the same for a prospect on an ELC despite never having had his cap hit actually count? I could be completely wrong, but I believe that even in that case the buy out would cause it to be against the cap. There are no exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I could be completely wrong, but I believe that even in that case the buy out would cause it to be against the cap. There are no exceptions. That sucks. Say we bought out Tochkin or some other bad contract, it'd be hella annoying to have their cap hit count even if they never played a game in the bigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panjodh Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 LOL French players suck?? Tell that to Bergeron, Lecavlier(sp?), St.louis, Broduer, and countless, COUNTLESS other stars Burrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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