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Posted 14 January 2012 - 01:43 PM

Well, Schroeder at least plays a solid defensive game. His only deterrent at the moment is his size.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:01 PM

A late draftee like this doesn't really have to dominate. Optimistically, he projects as a big bodied bottom 6 forward. PPG is fine as long as he does all the other things the club covets. Folks mentioned him skating well and protecting the puck. Now its just about sound positioning, willingness to pay the price and, most especially, compete level and work ethic. Not a fighter, I know, but does he at least stick up for his teammates in melees, etc.? Perhaps someone who follows his club can answer that.

3rd round picks have a single % digit chance of making the show. Still, if he consistently delivers on the above, then, as I've said before, he may be in a Nuck uni sooner (and could stick for longer) than the likes of Schroeder and Rodin, one-dimensional guys that should have shown more based on their ranking/draft selection.

We have the Bruins to thank for making beef be the "it" thing once again. Mercifully MG caught on just in time for last year's draft.


If you're looking for beef from Grenier, well, you're looking in the wrong place. He's not that type of player. Sure MG drafted some size in 2011 but he also made sure there was skill to go along with it. Make no mistake - he still looks for skill first and foremost in his drafts. The days of Evan Fuller are long gone.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:38 PM

Well lets just be grateful he's putting up positive numbers. Just because he's an "overage" it doesn't mean you have to dominate or else your a nothing. I think his progress is positive, and besides that, 80% of these "overages" are not dominating the leauge,

The problem I see is, this overager is a 'project'.

The Blackhawks drafted an overager in the 5th round last year, that has 5 goals in 7 NHL games.

I like 'projects' but I also like guys that can step in and make an impact, we haven't drafted a player like that in a long, long time....

At least we have Hodgson and Tanev!

Edited by ilikecanucks, 19 January 2012 - 03:39 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:44 PM

I'm watching this Friday night CHL game on Sportsnet.

Alexandre Grenier just scored, overpowered the defensemen 1 on 1. I hope he can make the roster next year, he's already 20 and has the size we need for a forward.

What roster?

You are absolutely dreaming if you think this kid gets a sniff at the NHL level in the next 3 years. He's a talented floater who shows very little desire to do the things that make NHL players, well...NHL players.

He is lazy, looks fairly uncompetitive, does not back check, will not forecheck hard...for the beauty he scored on national tv last week, every other shift he was the last forward back entering the d-zone.

Do not hold your breathe on him even making the Wolves (AHL) next year....Anthony and Archibald both couldn't cut it this year, and by all accounts have a much better work ethic than Grenier.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:29 PM

The problem I see is, this overager is a 'project'.

The Blackhawks drafted an overager in the 5th round last year, that has 5 goals in 7 NHL games.

I like 'projects' but I also like guys that can step in and make an impact, we haven't drafted a player like that in a long, long time....

At least we have Hodgson and Tanev!


Why the heck would you want to draft someone ready to play right now? If he was ready to play AND he was anything but a 4th liner (maybe bottom end 3rd liner)/3rd pairing D he would be drafted way before the 5th round. The Blackhawks got a hit with their draft.. So? At this point we have NO holes that a draft pick could help fill so I would rather someone ready 3 even 4 years down the line who has a good chance of being a top6/top4 player then a guy ready to step in who will never make it to the top4/top6.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:40 PM

its because these guys see players like hall nugent hopkins ect go right into the nhl and thrive they fail to understand not every player is like that , alot of the time a player wouldnt even be who he was without the training and help from the organization
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:54 AM

The problem I see is, this overager is a 'project'.

The Blackhawks drafted an overager in the 5th round last year, that has 5 goals in 7 NHL games.

He's the next Jason King!!!

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:16 PM

The problem I see is, this overager is a 'project'.

The Blackhawks drafted an overager in the 5th round last year, that has 5 goals in 7 NHL games.

I like 'projects' but I also like guys that can step in and make an impact, we haven't drafted a player like that in a long, long time....

At least we have Hodgson and Tanev!



I think with the depth of talent in our roster, we are going the right direction of investing in the future. We have developed some good players like that through our system and jensen will be a home run project as well imo.

Edited by keslerian one, 04 February 2012 - 10:17 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:24 PM

I think with the depth of talent in our roster, we are going the right direction of investing in the future. We have developed some good players like that through our system and jensen will be a home run project as well imo.


Jensen isn't really a project... Grenier and Honzik are more so.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:23 AM

Alexandre Grenier is tied for 2nd on his team in points with 19G 31A. He is tied with Matthew Boudreau (who has played 4 more games). So essentially the only player who is ahead of him on their team is the young phenom Nathan MacKinnon.

I know, I know, that he is an overager and just huge in general, that he should be dominating in the younger and smaller league. I still think that it is somewhat impressive, that in just his second year in the league he has already doubled his points from last year. If he keeps improving at this rate then he could become a very interesting prospect to follow. He also really turned it on in the playoffs last year. I am curious if he can do it again.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

The next couple of years will be very telling for Grenier. He'll need to be able to compete and be effective against stronger competition. Remember Pierre-Cedric Labrie? Similar prospect who put up 35 goals and 63 points in 68 games in 2006-2007; his first full season in the QMJHL as a 6'2 212lbs overager. While he did manage 8 games for TBL this season, he's 25 now and will likely never be more than a depth player.

Let's hope Grenier's skating and work ethic will separate him from other big bodied, late-blooming overagers who put up good numbers in junior but struggled translating that success to the pro game.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:03 AM

*Edit* Double Post

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 04:26 PM

We have some "old" prospects!
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:53 PM

Grenier: 53pts in 50 games as an over-ager.

3rd round steal or gentle giant?


Unlike Cedric-Labrie, Grenier can apparently skate very well. Let's hope for the best from him. Cheers.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:24 PM

^ More like gentle giant apparently. :P
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:18 AM

60 points in 60 games, if he's a project he might pan out long term. We can afford to be patient with this kid.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:24 PM

Grenier is an intriguing pick. His size and offensive ability could make him diamond in the rough. I, for one, am most interested to see if he can continue to grow both physically and mentally.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:22 AM

Grenier scored the lone goal for his Halifax Mooseheads in 6-1 loss to the powerhouse Saint John Sea Dogs today. The goal was his 24th of the season. He also managed to finish with an even rating, despite the lopsided score.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 03:25 PM

Grenier scored a goal and an assist and finished with a +2 rating for the Halifax Mooseheads in their final game of the regular season. Halifax finished with a 39-22-7 record and 6th place overall in the QMJHL (no conferences in the Quebec league) so they are playoff bound. Looks like they will face the Blainville-Boisbriand Armada in the first round.

2011/2012 regular season stats for Alexandre Grenier:

64 GP, 25 goals, 39 assists, 64 points, -2, 42 PIMS
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 04:27 PM

Grenier has an assist & a +1 halfway through the game. Halifax leading 3-1...

Edit: Grenier finished the game with 2a and a +1 in a 5-1w.

Edited by Millerdraft, 23 March 2012 - 05:42 PM.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:18 PM

Grenier has his 1st goal of the playoffs in game #2 (2-0 lead in the 2nd).
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:42 AM

3 pts in 2 games with Halifax leading the series 2-0
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:02 PM

Grenier had three 1st assists in today's 8-2 drubbing of Moncton. He now has 1g 5a 6pts & a +2 rating in 3gp. Halifax leads the series three games to none.

Grenier sits 10th in QMJHL playoff scoring.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

On a somewhat related topic, MG should effort to get the 1st round pick for the 2013 draft from whatever team his advanced stat geeks project to finish last next year. This MacKinnon kid will be a monster. Perhaps as part of the upcoming Schneider deal, since GMs, not doubt thinking their teams will do better next year, seem willing to part with future as opposed to current year's pics more readily.

The Sedins are slowing and elite teams don't last long without elite talent.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:05 PM

On a somewhat related topic, MG should effort to get the 1st round pick for the 2013 draft from whatever team his advanced stat geeks project to finish last next year. This MacKinnon kid will be a monster. Perhaps as part of the upcoming Schneider deal, since GMs, not doubt thinking their teams will do better next year, seem willing to part with future as opposed to current year's pics more readily.

The Sedins are slowing and elite teams don't last long without elite talent.


Bad teams don't usually trade 1st round picks but a team that might be the worst again next year is Columbus so how about 2013 first and something else for schnieder
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:32 AM

On a somewhat related topic, MG should effort to get the 1st round pick for the 2013 draft from whatever team his advanced stat geeks project to finish last next year. This MacKinnon kid will be a monster. Perhaps as part of the upcoming Schneider deal, since GMs, not doubt thinking their teams will do better next year, seem willing to part with future as opposed to current year's pics more readily.

The Sedins are slowing and elite teams don't last long without elite talent.


Bad teams don't usually trade 1st round picks but a team that might be the worst again next year is Columbus so how about 2013 first and something else for schnieder


IMO, any team with Schneider backstopping them is in good hands and won't come in last in the NHL.

So using Schneider to try and get the 1st overall pick from next year seems a moot point.

Edited by Dasein, 27 March 2012 - 06:32 AM.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:26 PM

QMJHL playoffs update for Alexandre Grenier:

Grenier and the Halifax Mooseheads have won their 1st round series with the Moncton Wildcats 4-0, completing the sweep. They pretty much dominated the Mooseheads, winning Game 1 5-1, Game 2 4-1, Game 3 8-2 and Game 4 5-4 in OT. Grenier had 1 goal, 5 assists, 4 PIMS and a +3 rating in the series.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 06:18 AM



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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:32 PM

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:12 PM

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