Down by the River Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Bob McKenzie thinks Ouelett is a lock, so I think it's safe to say he plays a pretty solid game. Ryan Sproul is going to be the toughest competition for Corrado. He's a pretty well rounded defenseman from the sounds of it. Dumba and Wotherspoon can be beaten out. They haven't done anything to be chosen over Corrado. So: Hamilton Rielly Harrington Ouellet Murphy ________ _________ Reinhart and Corrado for the last two spots (they take seven dmen right?). Wotherspoon only looked good playing with Corrado IMO. Dumba doesn't belong in the conversation IMO, and Sproul seems to be the most likely contender to disappoint Reinhart or Corrado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 So: Hamilton Rielly Harrington Ouellet Murphy ________ _________ Reinhart and Corrado for the last two spots (they take seven dmen right?). Wotherspoon only looked good playing with Corrado IMO. Dumba doesn't belong in the conversation IMO, and Sproul seems to be the most likely contender to disappoint Reinhart or Corrado. Switch Murphy and Reinhart. That's where we are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 In my 100% honest opinion, Corrado has earned a spot on the bottom pair, and Murphy has the 7th spot locked down. So it would be between Reinhart, Dumba, Sproul, Wotherspoon and Ouellet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug Graovac is a centre. Probably want to post the non D cuts in the WJHC thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Canuck Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I thought it was a great compliment to Corrado that yesterday he helped make Wotherspoon look pretty godd, but today he made Pouliot look pretty good... Reminded me of Hamhuis that way. I believe he will make the team, and that will make cheering for Team Canada a little more fun...! S_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Left-Handed: Rielly Harrington Ouellet Right-Handed: Hamilton Corrado Sproul Murphy Dumba 3 of 4 defensemen who didn't play on Wednesday are left-handed defenseman - and they happen to be the only remaining left-handed defensemen in camp. Pelech and Pouliot, the two defensemen who did not make the cut today, are both left-handed shooters. I am assuming that Rielly, Harrington and Ouellet all play on the left side naturally. This means that Corrado could move up as high up as the top 4 roster spot as the #2 right-handed defenseman behind Hamilton. I hope to see the Team Canada pairings looking like this: Rielly - Hamilton => Rielly is the offensive juggernaut - Hamilton is the steady rock with offensive capabilities Harrington - Corrado* => shutdown pair with offensive upside - both play sound mistake-free defensive game Ouellet - Sproul* => Ouellet is good offensively - Sproul brings physicality, a booming shot and sound defense Murphy => PP specialist 7th man Corrado and Sproul are interchangeable depending on chemistry, who is playing better, etc. You forgot Reinhart and Wotherspoon who are both left handed defenseman. So they have 5 righties and 5 lefties. That means they'll likely cut 1 of each (wotherspoon, dumba?). And keep an extra lefty. So that would be either Sproul or Corrado on the chopping block. If either one can play both sides, they've got a leg up. So: Hamilton Rielly Harrington Ouellet Murphy ________ _________ Reinhart and Corrado for the last two spots (they take seven dmen right?) I would say: Hamilton Rielly Harrington Murphy Ouelett/Reinhart Corrado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I think Team Canada's camp will keep an extra couple players on reserve in case the NHL starts soon. A lot of these guys could make their teams, and you don't want to be completely devoid of talent when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Woops thought he was D No worries - I had to double-check before I said anything. But good for Graovac to even make the camp - as he was a 7th round pick for the Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 usually they cut more players after the first week, i guess this is part of their lockout protection plan, keep more players around. great to see frankie giving them a tough decision to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Pouliot cut now. We are down to 10 D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Pouliot is gone. Locks (IMO): Hamilton, Reilly, Harrington, Reinhart, Murphy Down to Corrado, Dumba, Oullette, Sproul, and Wotherspoon. I think Dumba has played himself out of a spot, so it will come down to Oulette, Sproul, Wotherspoon and Corrado battling it out. Hamilton, Reilly, Harrington as locks. Adam Pelech has been cut. Leaves us with : Corrado, Dumba, Murphy, Oullette, Pouliot, Reinhart, Sproul, Wotherspoon...... 8 guys trying out for 4 more spots. I think Murphy makes it as his junior coach is team Canada's coach, and Reinhart and Pouliot make it as higher profile prospects. Of the remaining 5 ( Corrado, Dumba, Oullette, Sproul, Wotherspoon) Corrado has been playing the best, and receiving the most praise, while Dumba has apparently been noticeable in a very bad way, and Oullette has an ankle injury. So all in all: Hamilton, Reilly, Harrington, Reinhart, Pouliot, Corrado, Murphy is my guess. Ouellet is a lock if healthy. I would say: Harrington - Hamilton Rielly - Ouellet Rienhart - Corrado Murphy Dumba has looked shaky, don't know a ton about Sproul or Wotherspoon but I don't think they have been as good as Corrado. Murphy will probably get the 7th spot could of his supreme offensive and puck moving skillset, and also cause Spott is the coach of the team and knows how to get the best out of him and how to use him on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 First cuts are Pelech, Pouliot, Monahan, Graovac + Beauvillier. #cbcsports Frankie lives for another day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Pouliot got cut as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Left-Handed: Rielly Harrington Ouellet Reinhart Wotherspoon Right-Handed: Hamilton Corrado Sproul Murphy Dumba 3 of 4 defensemen who didn't play on Wednesday are left-handed defensemen - and Pelech and Pouliot, the two defensemen who did not make the cut today, are both left-handed shooters. Wotherspoon remains, but his foot speed on larger ice is questionable. Reinhart is also still available. I am assuming that Rielly, Harrington and Ouellet all play on the left side naturally. This means that at best, Wotherspoon or Reinhart are the 7th man by default of being the odd left-handed defenseman out. This also means that Corrado could move up as high up as the top 4 roster spot as the #2 right-handed defenseman behind Hamilton. I hope to see the Team Canada pairings looking like this: Rielly - Hamilton => Rielly is the offensive juggernaut - Hamilton is the steady rock with offensive capabilities Harrington - Corrado* => shutdown pair with offensive upside - both play sound mistake-free defensive game Ouellet - Sproul* => Ouellet is good offensively - Sproul brings physicality, a booming shot and sound defense Murphy => PP specialist 7th man Corrado and Sproul are interchangeable depending on chemistry, who is playing better, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I know its awesome having a stacked junior team with the lockout, but in a way its too bad. If Strome, Huberdeau, Scheifele, Nugent Hopkins, and Jenner were in the Nhl we might have been cheering on both Corrado and Gaunce. (Not that Gaunce's injury helped either, but healthy he could have had a shot at 3rd, 4th line C) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Left-Handed: Rielly Harrington Ouellet Reinhart Wotherspoon Right-Handed: Hamilton Corrado Sproul Murphy Dumba 3 of 4 defensemen who didn't play on Wednesday are left-handed defensemen - and Pelech and Pouliot, the two defensemen who did not make the cut today, are both left-handed shooters. Wotherspoon remains, but his foot speed on larger ice is questionable. Reinhart is also still available. I am assuming that Rielly, Harrington and Ouellet all play on the left side naturally. This means that at best, Wotherspoon or Reinhart are the 7th man by default of being the odd left-handed defenseman out. This also means that Corrado could move up as high up as the top 4 roster spot as the #2 right-handed defenseman behind Hamilton. I hope to see the Team Canada pairings looking like this: Rielly - Hamilton => Rielly is the offensive juggernaut - Hamilton is the steady rock with offensive capabilities Harrington - Corrado* => shutdown pair with offensive upside - both play sound mistake-free defensive game Ouellet - Sproul* => Ouellet is good offensively - Sproul brings physicality, a booming shot and sound defense Murphy => PP specialist 7th man Corrado and Sproul are interchangeable depending on chemistry, who is playing better, etc. Good analysis. However you say Reinhart is the 7th man earlier, then later say Murphy would be by pulling SProul out of nowhere. I suspect Murphy will get some minutes and play right of Ouellet. I don't think Sproul will make the team over Reinhart though. Otherwise, I agree that Frankie is more likely to find himself in a couple of line combos simply because he can be the rock who can also step up on the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 You forgot Reinhart and Wotherspoon who are both left handed defenseman. So they have 5 righties and 5 lefties. That means they'll likely cut 1 of each (wotherspoon, dumba?). And keep either a righty or a lefty. So that would be either Sproul or Corrado. If either one can play both sides, they've got a leg up. I would say: Hamilton Rielly Harrington Murphy Ouellett/Reinhart Corrado Yes, I added them now. Thanks. I am still waiting to see if anyone watches Ouellette on the regular or knows which side he plays naturally - the left or right. If he's on the right side, then I could see Reinhart being the bottom pairing left-side defenseman. If not, he's gotta be battling for that 7th spot. Also, I don't think Murphy's done much at all to warrant a spot on this team - his best bet is as the PP specialist 7th man. I think both Corrado and Sproul have been better and are much more capable defensively than Murphy. If Ouellet plays the right side: Rielly - Hamilton Harrington - Ouellet Reinhart - Corrado Sproul or Murphy If Ouellet plays the left side: Rielly - Hamilton Harrington - Corrado Ouellet - Sproul Reinhart or Murphy So: Hamilton Rielly Harrington Ouellet Murphy ________ _________ Reinhart and Corrado for the last two spots (they take seven dmen right?). Wotherspoon only looked good playing with Corrado IMO. Dumba doesn't belong in the conversation IMO, and Sproul seems to be the most likely contender to disappoint Reinhart or Corrado. So Ouellet is capable of playing on the right side naturally? Is he like Ehrhoff in being a left-handed right-side defenseman? I have no idea because I've never seen him play... Also, Murphy's best bet at this point IMO is the 7th spot as the PP specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Good analysis. However you say Reinhart is the 7th man earlier, then later say Murphy would be by pulling SProul out of nowhere. I suspect Murphy will get some minutes and play right of Ouellet. I don't think Sproul will make the team over Reinhart though. Otherwise, I agree that Frankie is more likely to find himself in a couple of line combos simply because he can be the rock who can also step up on the play. I say that at best, Reinhart can only be a 7th man because he's left-handed and there are 3 locks that are left-handed in front of him on the roster - not that he will be the 7th man ahead of other players. I think Sproul, being a right-side defenseman that plays solid defensively, has a booming shot and has the size to boot at 6'3", will make the team ahead of Murphy - especially if Ouellet is on the 3rd pairing. There's no way Team Canada goes with two undersized defenseman in Ouellet and Murphy on the bottom pairing IMO. Now, if Ouellet turns out to be an Ehrhoff/Garrison type left-handed defenseman that play the right side, then Reinhart will for sure make the team on the bottom pairing on the left side over Wotherspoon. That makes it more likely for Murphy to make the team since Reinhart covers Murphy's weakness in size and defense, and makes Sproul redundant because they play the same game. It all depends on where Ouellet plays - right side on the top 4, or left side on the bottom pairing. If in the top 4, Reinhart in, Sproul out on the last pairing - and Corrado and Murphy split 6/7 spots. If in the bottom pairing, Sproul in, Reinhart out - and Murphy takes 7th spot IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis2 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Top-4 d is pretty much set, and the d lines will look something like this (IMO). Rielly-Hamilton Harrington-Oulett Reinhart-Corrado Murphy Outlett is a lock if he is healthy, and he can/will play top-4 right side with Harrington. Sproul could take any of those bottom 3 spots though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I say that at best, Reinhart can only be a 7th man because he's left-handed and there are 3 locks that are left-handed in front of him on the roster - not that he will be the 7th man ahead of other players. I think Sproul, being a right-side defenseman that plays solid defensively, has a booming shot and has the size to boot at 6'3", will make the team ahead of Murphy - especially if Ouellet is on the 3rd pairing. There's no way Team Canada goes with two undersized defenseman in Ouellet and Murphy on the bottom pairing IMO. Now, if Ouellet turns out to be an Ehrhoff/Garrison type left-handed defenseman that play the right side, then Reinhart will for sure make the team on the bottom pairing on the left side over Wotherspoon. That makes it more likely for Murphy to make the team since Reinhart covers Murphy's weakness in size and defense, and makes Sproul redundant because they play the same game. It all depends on where Ouellet plays - right side on the top 4, or left side on the bottom pairing. If in the top 4, Reinhart in, Sproul out on the last pairing - and Corrado and Murphy split 6/7 spots. If in the bottom pairing, Sproul in, Reinhart out - and Murphy takes 7th spot IMO. I believe Ouellet plays the right side despite shooting left. I haven't followed him before this but the updates and youtube clips I have seen have him on the right side of whatever pairing he's on. So, to recap the cuts (5 tonight, 8 more to come tomorrow night): Hockey Canada has begun the process of cutting down its World Junior selection camp roster as five players, including forwards Sean Monahan, Francis Beauvillier and Tyler Graovac as well as defencemen Adam Pelech and Derrick Pouliot were released from the squad on Wednesday in the first round of cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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