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Posted 16 December 2011 - 10:58 AM

I just don't get what they thought they were going to achieve by doing this. They have the right to an opinion but keep it behind closed doors and stop embarrassing the rest of us.

There's a bit of division within the Celtic support right now based on all of this.


thats a good thing I think and probably needs to happen, i liked lennons comment that he was surprised that they got the spelling right. what did it actually say?
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 11:14 AM

thats a good thing I think and probably needs to happen, i liked lennons comment that he was surprised that they got the spelling right. what did it actually say?


F*** UEFA.

Whilst it's not the worst banner I've ever seen, it's just a stupid and childish thing to do. And isn't helping things at all. Yeah, Lennon's comment was pretty good, but on a Celtic forum I'm on a few people are calling it a disgrace (which in itself is a disgrace). On there in particular, there is a pretty huge division. A lot of the Irish fans aren't keen on us stopping the singing some of these songs, and you get the 3rd or 4th generation "Irish" Scots who agree with them because they think they're Irish Republicans despite having no real connection with the country anymore.

Like I've mentioned before, I've no issue with singing songs about the Old IRA but they don't belong at the football match, and songs about the PIRA (of which there are only a few) just annoy me.

Luckily there's been some success in eradicating them at games in recent weeks so I'm hoping it continues that way.

EDIT: No doubt the media will have a field day with this. And there's still the issue of whether you can ban songs about the Old IRA and the repercussions that will have, but yeah. IMO they don't belong.

Also, I believe that I previously bet my life savings that UEFA would do nothing. I retract that statement... :lol:

Edited by Sc♂ttish⑦Canuck™, 16 December 2011 - 11:22 AM.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 11:32 AM

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F*** UEFA.

Whilst it's not the worst banner I've ever seen, it's just a stupid and childish thing to do. And isn't helping things at all. Yeah, Lennon's comment was pretty good, but on a Celtic forum I'm on a few people are calling it a disgrace (which in itself is a disgrace). On there in particular, there is a pretty huge division. A lot of the Irish fans aren't keen on us stopping the singing some of these songs, and you get the 3rd or 4th generation "Irish" Scots who agree with them because they think they're Irish Republicans despite having no real connection with the country anymore.

Like I've mentioned before, I've no issue with singing songs about the Old IRA but they don't belong at the football match, and songs about the PIRA (of which there are only a few) just annoy me.

Luckily there's been some success in eradicating them at games in recent weeks so I'm hoping it continues that way.

EDIT: No doubt the media will have a field day with this. And there's still the issue of whether you can ban songs about the Old IRA and the repercussions that will have, but yeah. IMO they don't belong.

Also, I believe that I previously bet my life savings that UEFA would do nothing. I retract that statement... :lol:


Playing right into Platini's hands that, it wont only be the media that have a field day. Platini could go nuts with this. I would be afraid, very very afraid.

These (in bold) are the ones that really p!ss me off, if you polled them, I doubt 5% could actually tell you what the whole thing is about. I say it again, and not to provoke arguement or anything else, but Celtic have a way bigger problem with this than the other lot. Until some major banning orders are actually enforced, nothing will change. It has to come from the police and the stewards at the games and those, as I have said before, can be the worst offenders at times.

Did I not take that bet on by the way? ;)
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 12:24 PM

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Playing right into Platini's hands that, it wont only be the media that have a field day. Platini could go nuts with this. I would be afraid, very very afraid.

These (in bold) are the ones that really p!ss me off, if you polled them, I doubt 5% could actually tell you what the whole thing is about. I say it again, and not to provoke arguement or anything else, but Celtic have a way bigger problem with this than the other lot. Until some major banning orders are actually enforced, nothing will change. It has to come from the police and the stewards at the games and those, as I have said before, can be the worst offenders at times.

Did I not take that bet on by the way? ;)


I'll respectfully disagree. In terms of political views, yes. Rangers have a far, far greater problem where sectarianism is concerned and the reputation of their support in general.

But anyway, I'm just looking forward to the 28th. It'll give me an indication of how good Celtic are. Concentrate on the football for a change instead of this nonsense. The thing I'm most annoyed about is that this has taken the shine off what was a pretty impressive away performance (for once).
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 03:36 PM

I'll respectfully disagree. In terms of political views, yes. Rangers have a far, far greater problem where sectarianism is concerned and the reputation of their support in general.

But anyway, I'm just looking forward to the 28th. It'll give me an indication of how good Celtic are. Concentrate on the football for a change instead of this nonsense. The thing I'm most annoyed about is that this has taken the shine off what was a pretty impressive away performance (for once).


amen to that
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 05:23 AM

get to see the dons twice in a week :frantic: COYR
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:07 PM

get to see the dons win twice in a week :frantic: COYR


fixed

shocking standard of football though and even worse refereeing, never a pen nor a red card, the red card was a joke, was barely a foul!!!

i used to really like thompson as a ref, ive seen him ref some big euro qualifiers, the playoffs I believe and some big, later stage champions league and europa league games really well but today he was awful and his linesmen were not much better!!!

that said, who cares, 3 points are all that counts and if we can do the same in inverness next week, we are well on our way back to the top 6
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 02:20 AM

The AC Milan president was speaking about the chances of signing Tevez in an interview I read the other day and he said that Tevez has 2 choices, first, he could go to Milan from the chance to play for a great club with honour, tradition with the chance to win one of europes greatest leagues and compete regularly in europe or he could go to paris for the money.........See you in Paris then Carlos.

Also, ANOTHER hat trick for Ronaldo last night!!!!!
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 03:18 AM

http://www.dailymail...x-Ferguson.html

Roy Keane giving it to SAF.

Edited by I R Baboon, 18 December 2011 - 03:19 AM.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 03:20 AM

The AC Milan president was speaking about the chances of signing Tevez in an interview I read the other day and he said that Tevez has 2 choices, first, he could go to Milan from the chance to play for a great club with honour, tradition with the chance to win one of europes greatest leagues and compete regularly in europe or he could go to paris for the money.........See you in Paris then Carlos.

Also, ANOTHER hat trick for Ronaldo last night!!!!!


Hahaha no doubt in my mind Tevez goes to Paris.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:37 AM

Manchester United back on top! Common Gunners beat city!
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 04:11 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2075718/Roy-Keane-blasts-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html

Roy Keane giving it to SAF.


disappointing but unsurprising
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:09 PM

"and Man United had just been knocked out of a Champions League group they should have coasted through."

Fact. When I saw the champions league draw on TV I thought the same, Easy group, great. How they managed to mess it up is beyond me. But Its complacency. The current United team is missing a Roy Keane like player, someone who grabs the team by the scruff of the shirt and pulls them forward. But I don't think there will ever be another player quite like Roy. Love him or hate him, he was the best captain the team ever had.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:52 AM

Safe standing sections could be introduced in the Scottish Premier League, following the approval of a plan to allow top flight clubs to pilot the idea.

Following a meeting of the 12 member clubs on Monday, a vote was passed to amend current rules stating all SPL grounds must be all-seater.

The SPL board will now have the ability to approve any request made by a club to pilot a standing area, subject to further approval from the police and local authorities.

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPL, said: “Since I joined the SPL in 2009, there has been widespread support amongst fans to re-introduce safe standing areas.

"I am delighted that we have been able to respond positively to supporters’ views on improving the match day experience.

There is no jurisdiction under Scots law preventing standing areas returning, with only an amendment to the SPL's rules required.

Top flight grounds in Scotland have been all-seater since 1994 and current regulations stipulate the need for all clubs to have a minimum capacity of 6,000 all-seated.


Excellent news.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 06:23 AM

Excellent news.


I hope they go through with it, we never had any problems in scotland with standing, although pitodrie has been all seated before i started going. away days were always more atmospheric and i reckon a big part of that was because we were standing. any problems that happen in scotland at games are in city centres/train stations before/after the games

in other news, i see uefa have charged celtic again.........yous are f**ked this time!!!!
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:23 AM

I hope they go through with it, we never had any problems in scotland with standing, although pitodrie has been all seated before i started going. away days were always more atmospheric and i reckon a big part of that was because we were standing. any problems that happen in scotland at games are in city centres/train stations before/after the games

in other news, i see uefa have charged celtic again.........yous are f**ked this time!!!!


Yeah, don't even get me started on that. Disappointing that a few idiots have further damaged our reputation.

I'd love it if standing room was reintroduced. Works brilliantly in Germany, and the atmosphere would definitely improve around grounds, with hopefully cheaper tickets (although I wouldn't be surprised if they kept them the same price for standing). It's a lot safer these days too so hopefully they'll be introduced soon.

Edited by Sc♂ttish⑦Canuck™, 19 December 2011 - 07:25 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:57 AM

Yeah, don't even get me started on that. Disappointing that a few idiots have further damaged our reputation.

I'd love it if standing room was reintroduced. Works brilliantly in Germany, and the atmosphere would definitely improve around grounds, with hopefully cheaper tickets (although I wouldn't be surprised if they kept them the same price for standing). It's a lot safer these days too so hopefully they'll be introduced soon.


if anything the standing tickets will probably be more expensive, you know what the sfa are like :lol:

seriously though, they need to do something to try and get more people into the grounds, they had a special offer on at aberdeen on saturday that if you turned up with a season ticket holder, you got in for a quid and there still wasnt 8000 at the game.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 08:13 AM

I see Boyd has not lasted any longer than Miller in Turkey......why players go there baffles me
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 04:54 PM

if anything the standing tickets will probably be more expensive, you know what the sfa are like :lol:

seriously though, they need to do something to try and get more people into the grounds, they had a special offer on at aberdeen on saturday that if you turned up with a season ticket holder, you got in for a quid and there still wasnt 8000 at the game.


Ah, didn't know about that. Would have gone but I only got into Aberdeen on Saturday night. I know a couple of season ticket holders and I honestly don't know why they pay that mmuch money to see Aberdeen week in week out. Passionate fans I guess.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 03:09 PM

bye bye rovers and the worst fans in football, bolton will go too

Your father is your brother
Your sister is your mother
They're F***ing one another
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:18 PM

Thoughts on the Suarez ban? Is "Negrito" racist, when we don't know the context within which it was used?
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:53 PM

Thoughts on the Suarez ban? Is "Negrito" racist, when we don't know the context within which it was used?


if he said it he should be banned, no question. the frustrating thing about the whole episode is terry and the lack of fa investigation etc, had terry been given the same then there would/could have been no complaints.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:35 PM

All I wanna do is watch the god damn Man U game but stupid sportsnets feeds keep going down! :(
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:51 PM

dp.

Edited by Carpe Diem, 21 December 2011 - 01:59 PM.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:59 PM

Thoughts on the Suarez ban? Is "Negrito" racist, when we don't know the context within which it was used?


Well a few things to consider.

Suarez does not contest the fact that he used the word. He contested that the word can be used in a non-derogatory manner (kinda like how black people calls each other the the n-word.

But the fact is that he and the other player is trash talking each other it was very heated. The word was used more then once, so any logical person will have to conclude that is not used in a friendly context, and that he was racially taunting the other player.

This doesn't mean Suaraz hates black ppl (LFC's rather pathetic defense of Suarez having black friends and a black grandpa seems to miss the point), it merely means he is using racist language to try to wind up the other player, which is still unacceptible and deserves the band.

John Terry is charged now, it would be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:06 PM

if he said it he should be banned, no question. the frustrating thing about the whole episode is terry and the lack of fa investigation etc, had terry been given the same then there would/could have been no complaints.



Well a few things to consider.

Suarez does not contest the fact that he used the word. He contested that the word can be used in a non-derogatory manner (kinda like how black people calls each other the the n-word.

But the fact is that he and the other player is trash talking each other it was very heated. The word was used more then once, so any logical person will have to conclude that is not used in a friendly context, and that he was racially taunting the other player.

This doesn't mean Suaraz hates black ppl (LFC's rather pathetic defense of Suarez having black friends and a black grandpa seems to miss the point), it merely means he is using racist language to try to wind up the other player, which is still unacceptible and deserves the band.

John Terry is charged now, it would be interesting to see how it turns out.


I agree that he should be banned. I do, however, think that 8 games is too much.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:28 PM

anyone else excited for the 2012 Euro Cup? im hoping Germany can bring it home, ive always been a German soccer fan. Muller <3
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:59 PM

Manchester United dominated fulham today 5-0 but lost jones and young to injurys :/ SAF has to buy in january

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:49 AM

I agree that he should be banned. I do, however, think that 8 games is too much.


8 games does seem harsh but there is no similar previous incedents to compare the punishment with.

The FA must come out and release the findings, exactly what was said, by both players. Hopefully then this can be put to bed.

I have to say, Im getting more than a little annoyed with Liverpools whining and all this "we love Suarez" sh!t, accept the punishment and move on. When United lost Cantona after his karate kid impression they stood by the player but still banned him and accepted the punishment handed out by the FA etc. Liverpool need to accept this and by doing so still stand by Suarez. Wonder how Glenn Johnson (the only "black" player in Liverpools first team squad) really feels......
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:00 AM

anyone else excited for the 2012 Euro Cup? im hoping Germany can bring it home, ive always been a German soccer fan. Muller <3


no, not really, we (Scotland) failed to qualify (again) I just hope its more watchabke than the last world cup.

I do think Germany will win though
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million




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